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The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today
    #2174004 - 12/13/03 02:34 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well so what! Isn't that a good thing? Not just for the users but for general health aswell. I always remember hearing all the crap about 300 some odd chemicals that are in pot besides THC and all the tar and whatnot. OK, maybe not crap, I just don't care. Anyway, My point is that if it is more potent then that means we don't have to smoke as much right. Less of all those bad chems and tar. The potency arguement seems more like a pro pot stance to me. It seems to me that if it is so much more potent (this is contended) then the health riskd are much less and it is a safer drug than it used to be. And I seem to remember something about upping the punishment for higher grade/potency pot. If that is true it seems contradictory to many of the reasons it is illegal. Would they be trying to force people who aren't rich (prices for hiigh grade would increase) to smoke the low grade more unheathy strains? I don't know, just something that crossed my mind.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2174115 - 12/13/03 04:10 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Not only is it a good thing, but it's not true. I've read about how studies which say pot is more potent now compare shitty, low quality weed from the 60's(like Mexican shit) and compare it to high-potency chronic of today. Apples and oranges. Ok, so maybe there are some super-potent strains out now that weren't here in the 60's, but most people don't have access to it. I mean, the pot's pretty good out here in California, but I've talked to people who've gone to other parts of the U.S. and they say the weed's totally shitty.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: silversoul7]
    #2174123 - 12/13/03 04:17 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It is slightly morepotent today but only 1 or 2 % more.Sensimilia has risen slightly more than average. Regardless of the actual numbers it is tha arguement that they have been using. Am I the only one that sees it as a contradiction on their part to use it as anti when it realy is more of a pro arguement (if the numbers were true of course). And taking it a step further, if it was legalized couldn't it be enginered to be extreemly potent and therfor much less hazardus? Of course on the other hand if it was too potent then you would not be able to enjoy the act of smoking itself.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2174127 - 12/13/03 04:20 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

In their minds, more potent=getting more fucked up=bad.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: silversoul7]
    #2174137 - 12/13/03 04:39 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Fuct aint it. people are gonna get high regardless. Their concern should be to make it as safe as possible.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2174186 - 12/13/03 05:37 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

What, and have the united states adopt a doctrine of harm reduction like the nations with SUCCESSFUL drug policies?


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #2174195 - 12/13/03 05:42 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Unfortunatly it isn't likely to change while drug companies continue to pump millions into the political system.Who would the push their crap on then?


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2174437 - 12/13/03 11:30 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Unfortunatly it isn't likely to change while drug companies continue to pump millions into the political system.Who would the push their crap on then?




and the Amerikkkan ppl idealize the CEOs of the pharmaceutical companines..because of their achievements as individuals..while at the same time berating them for ripping them off..but to them their success gives them the right to do that..worse than merely being hippocrisy..it is part of a larger personality cult around these corporate autocrats in general...


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2174657 - 12/13/03 02:21 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Well so what! Isn't that a good thing? Not just for the users but for general health aswell. I always remember hearing all the crap about 300 some odd chemicals that are in pot besides THC and all the tar and whatnot. OK, maybe not crap, I just don't care. Anyway, My point is that if it is more potent then that means we don't have to smoke as much right. Less of all those bad chems and tar. The potency arguement seems more like a pro pot stance to me. It seems to me that if it is so much more potent (this is contended) then the health riskd are much less and it is a safer drug than it used to be. And I seem to remember something about upping the punishment for higher grade/potency pot. If that is true it seems contradictory to many of the reasons it is illegal. Would they be trying to force people who aren't rich (prices for hiigh grade would increase) to smoke the low grade more unheathy strains? I don't know, just something that crossed my mind.





I've always thought the same thing. Most of the ill effects that are ascribed to cannabis smoking come from the non-psychoactive chemicals (hydrocarbons and tars and such) that are volitized by the lighter. Certaintly their are very few, if any, proven medical studies that show that any cannibinoid or cannibidoid are harmful to humans. Thus, increasing the number of psychoactive chemicals reduces the overall amount of pot to be smoked to get the user "stoned". Thus, fewer of the carcinogens that exist in (all) smoke are taken in, and it's actually better for you.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: enimatpyrt]
    #2175302 - 12/13/03 08:10 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The only people who profit off the drug war are Drug dealers and prisons. Maybe the government should figure out. Fewer laws instead of more prisons.


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Re: The drug czar says pot is 30 times more potent today [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #2175312 - 12/13/03 08:15 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly. And the numerous law enforcement agencies that get more funding for their department if they make more drug arrests.


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