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Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts.
    #21739692 - 05/30/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've been a cat guy all my life. I've been dog-sitting a terrier for the past week and it's been great. I've been getting out the house for walks/jogs, which I rarely do on my own so it's good for me and the dog. It makes the walks/jogs so much more enjoyable. It's good having a companion as well.
If I were to get a dog, I'd love to adopt a puppy at the local shelter.
Do you get dog breeds that are easier to train and look after? How do you train a dog? General stuff like that I need advice on.

Any advice and helpful information is appreciated :super:


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21739713 - 05/30/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Coonhound Labs - doubt they will have that available. Got mine from a family friend who had a litter.

I like the combo because you have a docile dog, with hunting abilities, and territory protection.

Then again most dogs are like that anyways. I like labs just cuz that's all I've ever had.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21739715 - 05/30/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

IME google was my second best friend. Look up dog breeds and there personalities and you can get a feel for different breeds and there mixes and how they act. Of course this doesn't hold true for every dog each one is different even I the breed is suppose to be one way. Ex. My chuahua is very quite and I've never seen her hide or shake or get scared even tho there usually shy but loud. Consider the size and how often your home. Certain breeds do much better in a quite house all day than others. I have three dogs and I have to leave the tv on all day so they have something to hear or my eskimo will bark all day I've been told. Shelter or rescue dogs are fifty fifty some are totally cool and easily trained some are a little harder to handle. Best bet is talk to the shelter explain your exact situation(work hours, number of people in house,back yard or not and what not). As for training its dependent on the dog and how vigillant you are. Dogs reconize tone and positive reinforcement. After that its repetition.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21739722 - 05/30/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think you can really go wrong with a lab.  Little dogs tend to be a pain in the ass, even though alot of people think they'll be easier to deal with.

Any type of dog can be cool.  It really depends on your situation and what you like about dogs, but just don't get a little dog thinking it will be easy. 

You train them through positive reinforcement ideally.  If you spend a lot of time with the dog and exercise it enough 95% of the time you don't need lots of training.  If you're gonna leave it alone a lot it will probably act out even if its heavily trained.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Gorlax]
    #21739725 - 05/30/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah my brother brought home two chihuahua mixes after one of hour lab-coons died.

One is a pug/chihuahua mix haha no joke
The other is a wiener dog/ chihuahua mix...

They are good dogs and all, they like to burrow and snuggle with you and are pretty protective. The pug guy kinda has a dopey personality... The other one is smarter and more attached. Dog breeds are crazy. All in all my lab seems to be the smartest. That doesn't really matter I guess if you just want a pet. Some people don't want dopey dogs though. The pug mix guy has weird ticks where he has to lick his paws and shit and its annoying having him on your lap.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21739727 - 05/30/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

pm icelander

I'm not really qualified to judge, but he knows about as much about dog stuff as anyone so far as I can tell. He also works with a bunch of dogs so would probably be a good guy to get opinions on.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: DensePlacebo]
    #21739731 - 05/30/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dogs are Awsome...

Breed of dog will have more to do with what you have to offer as far space ...

I have a Doberman that is very active and very intelligent.

She needs room to run outside. As far as training her it was EASY...

I also have A little Chihuahua mix that is handicap ,,,

She requires more attention and I would never leave her outside alone...

I really love both of our dogs ....

Just a companion. I recommend a smaller dog.

For home protection I recommend a larger one.

Post a picture when you get one.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Fog1] * 1
    #21739751 - 05/30/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Scottish terrier.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01] * 2
    #21739756 - 05/30/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I love dogs more then a lot of people I meet.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #21739785 - 05/30/15 04:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Hobozen]
    #21739795 - 05/30/15 04:35 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I love shetlin sheephearders(Shelties), thats what breed my dog is. He's Actually a pure bred and we got him for free bit I wouldn't trade my baby for a million bucks.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 1
    #21739830 - 05/30/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Here's a photo of the little fella! Anyone know his exact breed?



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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21739831 - 05/30/15 05:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Does.anyone know what breed this is?



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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Hobozen] * 1
    #21739840 - 05/30/15 05:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yes, it's an ugly motherfucker :cryaboutit:


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21739931 - 05/30/15 06:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Aw, he's like a littler version of my dog, but with shorter hair, a stout snout and a little beard. I love dogs. I don't know what type of dog he is, but if you are considering getting a dog, i'd like to add that i got my dog for my 16th birthday and she's been my best and most loyal friend since. Sometimes she's a bitch and get's pissy at me going to work without her, but she has always done what she's told, wouldn't hurt a person, always puts her chin on my knee when i'm thinking.
I suggest from personal experience that a dog from a shelter will be you best friend for ever. Then again, all dogs are awesome and any dog will probably fulfill a part in you that you didn't realise you had.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21739977 - 05/30/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't think you can really go wrong with a lab




Each dog have their own personality. My lab is dappy and messy as shit....gotta love him, though


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #21739981 - 05/30/15 07:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

last nite at red rocks i saw this girl selling water and she had her dog with her. like straight up i cant walk past a dog without petting it


so i saw that this dog looked exactly like mine and i was like oh is it a rescue? she was like yeah. then i told her what the other half of the mix was, cuz from the adoption agency it just said a lab. so that was cool


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Vibez]
    #21739985 - 05/30/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't think you can really go wrong with a lab




Each dog have their own personality. My lab is dappy and messy as shit....gotta love him, though





labs are the best dogs imo, like not even a contest

my dog now is so obidient, its crazy. the only time he wont listen is like when hes super zoned in on something when hes like looking in the woods. and like outta instinct he'll just bolt that way. no other thoughts or cares in this world


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21740032 - 05/30/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't really like labs, they aren't as cute as other breeds


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21740041 - 05/30/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Your op said dogs that are easy to train, nothing about cuteness. I think you just want a mountain bike and a tamagotchi.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 1
    #21740181 - 05/30/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Scottish terrier.






This is my little scotty his name is tweed. I love him with all my heart I never knew you could love a dog so much.

IMO if you have never had a dog before, once you get one you will realize they mean as much to you as even a child. Tweed used to be really good and I took him to the dog park every day but he got bit a few times and has some leash aggression now but what can you do. Scotties are the best tho they are so stubborn sometimes you have to have insane patience and they always try to outsmart you to piss you off lol.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Magenta]
    #21740492 - 05/30/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Your op said dogs that are easy to train, nothing about cuteness. I think you just want a mountain bike and a tamagotchi.




The fuck is wrong with wanting a cuter breed?:kingcrankey: Take dat negativity of yours and get lost.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21740502 - 05/30/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ya Magenta has a chip on his shoulder.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Hobozen]
    #21740539 - 05/30/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Does.anyone know what breed this is?





It's a dog that hates Orthodontists.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: r00tuuu123] * 1
    #21740776 - 05/30/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



a rescue grey hound will change your life for the better, best dog imo


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 2
    #21740854 - 05/30/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

German shepherds are my favorite dog




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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21741139 - 05/30/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Im sure you could search dog forums for great ways to teach your dog.

I taught my dog her tricks/commands by praising her with snacks. Sometimes you have to physically make your dog do the command (ie: if teaching dog "sit", gently push their butt to the ground so they are sitting) then praise them for it. Only try for a short time or the animal will get frustrated. Try daily till they learn.

And heres a link i pulled up quickly that shows how to potty train a dog. Same method could also be used if you were to train your dog to pee on a matt indoor as well. My dog uses pee matts in the house.

http://m.humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/tips/housetraining_puppies.html

Dogs are easily my favorite animal. They are so loving.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21742069 - 05/30/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Your op said dogs that are easy to train, nothing about cuteness. I think you just want a mountain bike and a tamagotchi.




The fuck is wrong with wanting a cuter breed?:kingcrankey: Take dat negativity of yours and get lost.




Not meaning to be negative mate, i was just stating my perception. Cuteness is subjective; throw out an example of a cute dog so we know what you want.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Magenta]
    #21742095 - 05/30/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone saying labs are the best dogs is silly.


Labs bite more than any other dog breeds I've ever seen. Dunno why everyone says pit bulls are evil, I've never once seen a pit bite anyone but I've seen labs attack people on multiple occasions.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21742111 - 05/30/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

When I was young I had a cairn terrier for a dog. Damn thing bit my face when I was 9 and had to have surgery from the infection. Then a few years later when I was 15, I cut the same area on my face and it became infected again :facepalm:

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    #21742473 - 05/30/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Boston Terrier is a great breed if you don't want a huge dog that destroys all of your stuff and costs a fortune to feed.  They are a smaller breed but can outrun almost any other breed in sprinting, have short hair so they don't shed all over your house and stink.  Everyone that has spent a few minutes with my Boston Terrier says they want one for their next dog.  He's very obedient, well mannered, and intelligent.  I can leave my half finished plate of food on the ground on accident and pass out in my chair and he won't touch it. 

I also have a Deer Head Chihuahua, he is a little bit less friendly to outsiders but that's just because he's very protective of my woman and I.  He may not have the size to take down an intruder but he has the ears and I'd know way ahead of time if someone tried to break in because he's better than any alarm system.  Deer Heads aren't as skittish and nervous as Apple Heads and they also get a little bit larger in size, mine weighs 9-10 lbs. 

As far as training dogs goes... well that is a whole science in and of itself.  I actually recommend watching The Dog Whisperer with Cesar Milan to learn some of the basics.  The most important thing in my opinion is to be their master at first, and once you've established the pecking order, then you become their friend.  Dogs have great memory, better than humans in some regards.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: BigHeart]
    #21742716 - 05/30/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just got a boston and so far he's been a breeze to train.  Very cute and funny, great temperment and a good apartment dog.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21742721 - 05/30/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Boston terriers and labs are two types of breeds that are amazing dogs. I've always been a cat person myself as well but dogs are lit too.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21743161 - 05/30/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't think you can really go wrong with a lab.  Little dogs tend to be a pain in the ass, even though alot of people think they'll be easier to deal with.

Any type of dog can be cool.  It really depends on your situation and what you like about dogs, but just don't get a little dog thinking it will be easy. 

You train them through positive reinforcement ideally.  If you spend a lot of time with the dog and exercise it enough 95% of the time you don't need lots of training.  If you're gonna leave it alone a lot it will probably act out even if its heavily trained.



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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Hobozen]
    #21743362 - 05/31/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #21743459 - 05/31/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been a cat guy all my life. I've been dog-sitting a terrier for the past week and it's been great. I've been getting out the house for walks/jogs, which I rarely do on my own so it's good for me and the dog. It makes the walks/jogs so much more enjoyable. It's good having a companion as well.
If I were to get a dog, I'd love to adopt a puppy at the local shelter.
Do you get dog breeds that are easier to train and look after? How do you train a dog? General stuff like that I need advice on.




Stay away from breeds like Siberian Huskies, German Shepherds, Jack Russell Terriers, Dalmations, etc. These breeds tend to be very hyperactive, and if they get bored you will find them completely chewing on and wrecking all your furniture, shoes, clothes, couches, everything. My Jack Russell destroyed so many pairs of shoes when I wasn't at home, and it wasn't cool at all. You have to be a VERY active person physically to look after these dogs well.

Huskies are not at all loyal dogs either. I used to have one and I would never get one again. The second you take them off the leash, they run away and you may never see them again. My husky used to dig a hole in the backyard and run away that way too. Akitas and Alaskan Malamutes are the exact same way too, they're pretty much identical breeds of dog.

Dogs that tend to be mellow and easy to train would be like labradors, golden retrievers, Saint Bernards, pugs, but really it depends more on individual personality too. My current dog is a chihuahua and Papillon mix, and she's the most mellow dog I've ever seen. She doesn't even like playing with toys, she hates walks at the park (like WTF kind of dog hates going outside), she hates socializing with other humans and all animals, all she loves to do is sunbathe and sleep. And she doesn't even wake up until I wake up first, even if I'm sleeping in till the afternoon. She's the easiest and most chill dog I've ever had. She's more like a cat personality-wise, really.

Each dog has their own personality though. I have another chihuahua and Daschund mix, and he is completely different from my other chihuahua mixed dog. The chihuahua/Daschund mix I have is a lot more hyperactive, he is the kind of dog that wakes you up at 5 in the morning because he has to pee, loves walks and runs around all crazy around the house, sometimes gets into the garbage can and spills it everywhere and gets in trouble. He just all-around acts more like a typical dog.

My suggestion is, to simply play with the dog at the shelter first before you adopt. Then, you kind of get a feel and a vibe for which one is more playful, which one is more hyperactive and requires lots of physical activity, which one is more aggressive, which one is more timid and shy, which one barks a lot, etc.

You should only get the breed that you think you can handle. If you're the type that goes out running every day and likes to play frisbee at the park, then you could probably do with a more hyper dog like an Akita or a German Shepherd. But if you're the type that likes to chill at home and surf the web and occasionally play with your dog, you want to get a dog that's way more mellow and relaxed. Otherwise an energetic dog will go bonkers and completely ransack and ruin your home.

There's a good reason that a lot of apartments ban certain breeds of dogs. The breeds that are typically banned from apartment complexes are pit bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Huskies, Akitas, Alaskan Malamutes, Dobermans, Chows, Great Danes, and Mastiffs.

Although Mastiffs and Great Danes tend to be extremely mellow and lazy dogs, they are probably just banned from apartment complexes because of their enormous size. A Mastiff would be a great dog to have if you had enough room in your house and a huge yard. They're extremely chill, mellow, and pretty much sleep all day. You would have to clean up monster shits and spend a fortune on food though.


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    #21743477 - 05/31/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, and as far as how to train dogs… the way I've always done it is through positive reinforcements.

Let's say that you are trying to train your dog to pee on the grass. The first night the dog is at your house, you take your dog out every hour on the leash to go outside. Make sure you bring a bag of treats with you, because the second he/she pees or poops on the grass, you feed it a treat. Do this every single time it goes to the bathroom outside for at least a week. After about a week you don't have to give it treats anymore every single time, it will already recognize that going to the bathroom on the grass leads to good things.

Personally, for a first-time owner, I would recommend buying a slightly older adult dog, rather than a young puppy. Because puppies require a lot more care and are more difficult to train. Chances are, adult dogs that you find in the shelter will more often than not, already come trained. Adult dogs also tend to be a lot more mellow and less hyperactive as well.


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    #21743780 - 05/31/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21743871 - 05/31/15 05:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't really like labs, they aren't as cute as other breeds



my lab/german shephard mix is great.


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    #21744142 - 05/31/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I hate to appear conflicting, after being accused of harvesting negativity, but this is a legitimate question.  Am i the only member here that has never seen a dog bite a person? I have seen a dog nip a person as to say 'piss off and stop pulling my tail cunt' but never a full on bite.
I just read all this and i think that people are either talking out their arses or are extreamly careless around dogs.


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    #21745168 - 05/31/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Everyone saying labs are the best dogs is silly.


Labs bite more than any other dog breeds I've ever seen. Dunno why everyone says pit bulls are evil, I've never once seen a pit bite anyone but I've seen labs attack people on multiple occasions.




Could you flesh out that statistic (or unsubstantiated generalization) a little bit?  Labs are almost never mean IMO.  They will play-bite and dive tackle you, but they're generally well disposed I think, and usually really love being around people, which is why they are so popular.

Pit bulls can be mean as fuck.  Like I have never seen a drug dealer (or anyone) with a Labrador Retriever as a gaurd/fighting dog, but I have seen drug dealers keep pit bulls who are mean as fuck, mostly I think bc they are neglected and stuff, and they're known for biting and not letting go.

I'm sure more labs bite people because labs are like the #1 breed of dig in the US, that only makes sense.


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    #21745249 - 05/31/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

they're not independant like cats

they're annoying, they never wanna stop playing

they take a lot of attentnion, they need it and it's never enough unless it's a female

males, they'll never get tired of it, ever

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    #21745295 - 05/31/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My dog smells like joy and corn chips where cats smell like piss.

I've had cats that are incredibly obnoxious and will never leave you alone, never stop mewing, and never stop rubbing it's weepy eye on people.

You definitely need free time and patience to own a dog.  I think if you're single it would be a huge responsibility, but if you live with a couple of people who all chip in it is not really so bad.


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    #21745319 - 05/31/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My current cat NEVER stops bugging me. Constantly tripping me over because she rubs my legs all day....

And she wants to go in and out every 5 minutes. I will hand it to her though, she is very smart. She has opened doors many times before.

When she isn't bugging me though, she just keeps to herself, but that only happens 20% of the time she is awake.


Dogs are like real companions, I mean hell that is why humans kept them domestically in the first place. They expect you to treat them well, but with a little time and effort, your dog will become your best friend. Nothing is better than chilling on your couch with your dog on your lap.


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    #21745391 - 05/31/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

SOURCE:

http://www.denverpost.com/headlines/ci_11796291

"unsubstantiated generalization"

Fuck off. All you ever do is post your opinion around everywhere like it's fact.

The only reason pit bulls are considered dangerous is because they have a hell of a lot more bite force than black labs.

Labs are FAR more aggressive than almost every other breed I've ever been in contact with, regardless of owner or how it was raised. You know why drug dealers use pit bulls as guard dogs? It's because of their ridiculous amount of bite force they can generate.

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    #21745432 - 05/31/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not trying to butt in and sound like a know it all but have had 2 pitt bulls and doggysitted a bunch of them until they found good homes and I can say most the stereotypes of pits are falsePeople don't keep labs as fighting dogs because pit bulls have bigger and stronger jaws and a lab wouldnt make as good of choice. that's not a really good reason to blame the dog.  Quite often these dog fidghters mix them with other larger dogs anyway. If they had another dog as a fighting dog it too would be mean, and all the owner's fault for tormenting the dog. Dogs really don't generally bite people for no reason when they're treated like family and not a way to raise crack money.  Statistically certain breeds are more defensive and pit bulls rank low as being super mean  and yappy to visitors.  I can't get mine to bark like he means it no matter how hard I try where my labs always just knew "bark really mean at stranger". lol. 

But by all means get whatever dog you want.  They will love you to the end if you be nice to the dog.  And pit bulls and all dogs are a big responsibility some times.  My pit is kinda territorial and get jealous towards other new dogs and especially cats that come in the yard.


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    #21745447 - 05/31/15 04:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Straight back German Sheppard if you have time to take it to puppy school / obedience school and socialize it correctly it will be a very loyal and wonderful friend for life. :popcorn:


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    #21745524 - 05/31/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey I just call 'em like I see 'em bro.  I don't claim to know everything, just more than all other humans.  I'll admit that one of my pet peeves is people who don't understand how statistics are often used to make sweeping statements without actually considering things, and I probably get off on correcting people to some extent, but at least I know how to properly qualify my statements.

So according to your link:

2,060 reported dog bites in this area with around 700k dogs.

13.3 percent were labs, and 8 percent were pit bulls.

I cannot find data on how many pit bulls are registered in this specific area, but they are not even in the top 10 dog breeds according to the AKC (77th in US).  Part of this could be that they are often not really connected to kennel clubs, and that the people who are drawn to pit bulls are less likely to register their dog.  This alone makes them much more dangerous, since a dog that is unregistered is less likely to be properly vaccinated.  Labs are the #1 dog breed in the US.

or from your article again:

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That does not mean that Labrador retrievers bite more often than other breeds, the experts said. To try to determine which breed bites the most, there would have to be a dog census, accumulating total numbers of each breed, and then a breakdown to compare breeds. Those numbers are not available.

The survey found 13 "maulings" by dogs.

Fisher said the maulings were by a variety of breeds, including two by pit bulls, two Rottweilers, a Labrador retriever and a hound dog, among others.



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I've never been one to demonize pit bulls, but you seem to be way biased on the other side.


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    #21745529 - 05/31/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21745557 - 05/31/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Q: Do pit bulls bite more than other dogs?

Depending upon the community in which you live and the ratio of pit bulls within it, yes and no. But whether a pit bull bites more or less than another dog breed is not the point. The issue is the acute damage a pit bull inflicts when it does choose to bite. The pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style causes severe bone and muscle damage, often inflicting permanent and disfiguring injuries. Moreover, once a pit bull starts an attack, firearm intervention may be the only way to stop it.

When analyzing dog bite statistics, it is important to understand what constitutes a bite. A single bite -- recorded and used in dog bite statistics -- is a bite that "breaks the skin." One bite by a poodle that leaves two puncture wounds is recorded the same way as a pit bull mauling, which can constitute hundreds of puncture wounds and extensive soft tissue loss. Despite the "quagmire" of dog bite statistics, pit bulls are leading bite counts across U.S. cities and counties.15




http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-dogs-pit-bull-faq.php

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    #21745563 - 05/31/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That pitbulls kill more people than other dogs? No shit. It has double the bite strength of most other dogs.

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This alone makes them much more dangerous,




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    #21745587 - 05/31/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21745629 - 05/31/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok.  To me that is something to keep in mind when considering dogs, how likely it is to kill you.  Barking and jumping up can be obnoxious, and some people consider it improper, but that is more of an individual personality thing that varies quite a bit within any breed.  Real aggression with dogs is things like raising haunches, low growling, and giving the death stare.  Labs are more socially aggressive, but the ways that pitbulls are aggressive is distinctly violent and short fused. 

Of course this is not the dog's fault.  People bred them for this specific reason, and continue to breed and fight them.  I don't think bull/bear baiting is really common anymore, and those practices are illegal most places I think.  The dogs do not hate or have an agenda with people, but still they're more dangerous not only because of the genetic advantage they have in inflicting serious harm, but because there are plenty of jackasses who do make a point to live up to the negative stigma these dogs have.


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    #21745651 - 05/31/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Labs are more socially aggressive.




Pick a side to argue for fuck sakes. You're flip flopping like a politician. That's the whole point I made and you were arguing with

I'd rather have a pitbull that has a chance to kill me IF it ever attacks than a Black Lab that will bite and nip at strangers for no reason, and then eventually get put down for being a dangerous dog.


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    #21745692 - 05/31/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But labs are not more dangerous.  There are less reported bites in general (when relative populations sized are considered) because labs are less likely to bite.  All I'm saying is that they're more likely to put their teeth on you, which is only a bite by the loosest definition of the word, and not usually considered that aggressive by people who are comfortable with dogs.  I'm pretty sure alot more pits are put down (again when considering relative population sizes as well as # of bites).

Like if you know dogs you know that there's nothing to fear from barking and jumping.  What you worry about is raising haunches, low growl, and death stare.

It is just part of the way pit bulls are wired to zone in and prioritize doing damage, where labs were intended to work with people and be attentive to commands.


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    #21745703 - 05/31/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:callingbullshit:

Oh yeah, you CLEARLY know so much about dogs since you think pitbulls are dangerous.

Ever owned one?

No?

Then shut the fuck up. I've had both. The pits have always been far nicer, you can't claim thats the owner, because I owned both.


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    #21745719 - 05/31/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:smirk: oh you've had both dogs?  I didn't realize you had an anecdote.  I like how you flip out over me forcing my opinions on others when I question your sources, then proceed to shove your opinion in my face when I ask you to back your statements using some sort of clear reasoning.

All dogs are potentially dangerous.  Pit bulls in general are more dangerous than labs.  I would say that most dogs that kill or seriously harm humans or other animals are considered the nicest dog in the world by someone.  It is no guarantee that a lab won't hurt you or the people you care about, it is just much less likely.


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    #21745724 - 05/31/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Pit bulls in general are more dangerous than labs.




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    #21745726 - 05/31/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21745731 - 05/31/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That's like saying Nuclear missiles are more dangerous than a car accident.

Just because they CAN cause more damage doesn't mean they actually do.

That's gotta be the stupidest arguement I've heard ever.

How many people died this year from a nuke? None? How many died from a car accident?

That's literally the perfect metaphor for what you're describing.

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    #21745841 - 05/31/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You really need to chill out.  There's no reason to make this personal, that doesn't help your case.

I would say that nuclear missiles are definitely more dangerous than a car accident.  I mean nukes could potentially kill us all.  I think that metaphor actually helps my case here, but mostly it is like comparing a massive rabies outbreak with a single dog bite.  They're just not on the same scale.  I think that everyone knows what we're talking about: the potential for considerable danger in a given scenario, rather than the likelihood of danger in all given scenarios even including totally negligible danger.  I consider it very misleading to say that pit bulls are more aggressive than labs, and now you're trying to preform some mental gymnastics involving semantics and absurd metaphors, but I didn't ask for that.  I'd prefer some outside sources to back that up, because I'm sorry but I don't know you well enough to trust your judgement.

Labs and pit bulls are on the same scale.  They're both dogs and I'd say they are more similar than different, but labs are notoriously friendly when pit bulls are notoriously dangerous.  One of the things people say about labs is that they're awful guard dogs, because if an intruder comes the dog will probably invite them in for a beer.  One of the things people say about pit bulls is that the only way to get them to release their bite is to kill them, and even that doesn't always work.  Are these things always true?  Doubt it, but these statements aren't totally unfounded.

Also from what I read here nobody said anything bad about pit bulls in this thread.  You came in and said that labs are more aggressive than pit bulls, and used what I thought to be a misleading statistic to back this up which I took issue with.

In plenty of other situations I have defended pit bulls, but the evidence shows that they have a considerable potential for aggression that involves death or bodily harm when compared to other dogs.  This is not just because of their bite force, it is because alot of things I'm sure, but that is what the evidence shows.

Here's a metaphor for you: this is like Bitter Cactus trying to say that marijuana is more dangerous than speed.  You have nothing to back up what you're saying other than your own personal account, and just judging by your words here, they kinda show that you may be prone to emotional overreaction and overcompensating for negative stigma.


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    #21745850 - 05/31/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I didn't make this personal at all?

I never insulted you.

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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21745853 - 05/31/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21745926 - 05/31/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I didn't make this personal at all?

I never insulted you.

If you're insulted by your own outlandish and ridiculous arguments that's on you, not me.




Ok maybe you're just a tactless debater, but you're quite rude.  I wouldn't say I'm insulted, as I've said I don't really know you well enough to trust your judgement, but clearly you're a hypocrite who loves hyperbole and thinks that a "literally perfect metaphor" for comparing two breeds of dogs is nuclear war vs car accidents.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21745931 - 05/31/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You really need to chill out.  There's no reason to make this personal




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    #21745975 - 05/31/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Other than your personal opinion, what evidence do you have that labs are more likely to bite than a pit bull on a case to case basis.  Obviously that is the context here as OP is asking about getting a dog, not every dog, so statistics that show that more popular dogs are more likely to bite someone overall are useless.  What I'm asking is not to tell me to fuck off and insult my intelligence, because I don't think I ever did that to you, I am asking you to back up your statements using evidence.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21746784 - 05/31/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Then shut the fuck up. I've had both. The pits have always been far nicer, you can't claim thats the owner, because I owned both.




Yeah, but in all fairness pit bulls are known to be extremely loyal to their owners. To outsiders, not so much.

Also, I used to work as a veterinary technician when I was younger. They taught us that the number 1 dog breed to bite other humans were Dalmations.

The number 1 breed most likely to bite other dogs? Pitbulls.

This is however, simply based on hospital data analysis and surveys.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21746797 - 05/31/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've had a fostered several labs. They were all great dogs super friendly, easily trained, loyal companions. Just overall great dogs. My dad currently has a chocolate lab/ German short haired pointer he's a bit smaller than a full grown lab but he's an awesome dog.

My personal favorite is the husky but they are a lot to handle. They need lots of exercise and grooming.

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    #21746816 - 05/31/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

^^yeah, I was about to suggest beagle too. They are very sweet-natured dogs. In fact, scientists prefer to use beagles for animal testing because beagles very rarely ever bite people and are such gentle dogs. :feelsbadman:


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    #21746965 - 06/01/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah they're pretty great.  Don't get me wrong I have met some wild ones.  One free-roaming Black Lab bit up a Shetland Sheepdog we had when I was younger.  It was a pretty ugly situation, but even then our dog was ok it just needed a few stitches.  My brother also suffered a pretty bad attack from what I think was a Springer Spaniel my family had when I was a baby, which I think was pretty much unprovoked.  That same Sheltie that was bit by the Lab also bit me in the face once, but I only had little puncture wounds and redness and if I'm being honest I was totally asking for it :tongue:

Sometimes even really good dogs can have things that set them off and cause them to bite on reaction too.  You can develop a really deep and special relationship with pretty much any dog or animal, but since any dog can bite (and very likely will at some point) getting a dog that is less likely to harm you if it does is definitely advisable for new owners.

If the dog is going to be cooped up in an apartment all day a Lab is probably not a good idea.  I never really badmouthed pit bulls but I think I did badmouth little dogs.  Mostly I find them to be insufferable (I do love them, but they're obnoxious), Beagles are definitely an exception to that, they're not really that little though.

Honestly some of the coolest and most amazing dogs I have ever come across have been mutts, mongrels, and mixed breeds.  I think people kinda overestimate the human influence on dogs through breeding.  Breeding maybe brings out specific characteristics in different ways, but it is definitely not what makes dogs intelligent or good companions.  If anything I think it can get in the way of those things when taken to an extreme.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21746979 - 06/01/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I never really badmouthed pit bulls



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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21747136 - 06/01/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Jeez people. Well done for  :derail: can a mod please clean up the crap?

I am just considering going to a local dog shelter, having a look at them all, spending some time with dem and asking the staff what would suit me. I've got the dog till tuesday/maybe wednesday


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21747139 - 06/01/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey :shrug: maybe it is just the owners giving them a bad name for the most part

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Several studies determined that pit bull owners, and owners of other "vicious" or "high risk" breeds (most commonly identified as Akita, Chow Chow, Doberman Pinscher, Rottweiler, and Wolf-mix), are more likely to have criminal convictions and are more likely to display antisocial behaviors. A 2006 study compared owners of "high risk" dogs to owners of "low risk" dogs. "High risk" dogs included “vicious” dogs by breed (e.g., pit bulls) or “vicious” actions (e.g., any dog that had bitten, attacked, or killed a person or other animal). The study determined that "high risk" dog owners had nearly 10 times as many criminal convictions than did "low risk" dog owners.[45] A 2009 study[46] and a followup 2012 study generally supported these findings.[47]




Still though, as far as what you can say about a breed I think it would be borderline irresponsible to not at acknowledge a pit bulls tendency for aggressive violence.  Sometimes water dogs don't like to swim and sometimes fighting dogs don't want to fight, but it is not like people are making this stuff up.  The history is there and there's plenty of evidence even if labeling dogs is an imperfect science.


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    #21747140 - 06/01/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You can get little pigs as pets they are much smarter then dogs.


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    #21747143 - 06/01/15 01:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And judging from the average American palette, much less of a liability in times of famine :wink::awesome:


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Plus they probably taste better too. I don't know that for fact, but pork ribs are pretty tasty.


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    #21747746 - 06/01/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Jeez people. Well done for  :derail: can a mod please clean up the crap?

I am just considering going to a local dog shelter, having a look at them all, spending some time with dem and asking the staff what would suit me. I've got the dog till tuesday/maybe wednesday




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    #21747754 - 06/01/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Will probably be a few months, turns out most places charge and I don't have much money before I get housing benefits sorted out, but they vaccinated, etc so I suppose its fair.
It's gonna be soo hard seeing all the poor dogs without a loving family and home and I'll only be able to pick one (well one atm) :feelsbadman:


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    #21747777 - 06/01/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Will probably be a few months, turns out most places charge and I don't have much money before I get housing benefits sorted out, but they vaccinated, etc so I suppose its fair.
It's gonna be soo hard seeing all the poor dogs without a loving family and home and I'll only be able to pick one (well one atm) :feelsbadman:


The cost at a shelter is minimal that in most cases includes spay/neuter and shots last I checked it was around 40.00 But remember you gotta feed the dog to so figure in 50 to 75.00 per month in  food for a  medium to large dog. Too many people neglect to consider this even when getting a dog from the pound. Then you got your yearly check ups and booster shots that's another say 75$ per year.


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    #21747787 - 06/01/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ive been away for the last few days

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    #21747799 - 06/01/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ive been away for the last few days

i cant wait to get home and see my fuckin dogs




Since I got my dog I have only been away from him for hours, never days. That must be killing you inside home you gotta get home quick. Love how excited they are when you are gone for a long time and you come home.


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    #21747802 - 06/01/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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ive been away for the last few days

i cant wait to get home and see my fuckin dogs




Since I got my dog I have only been away from him for hours, never days. That must be killing you inside home you gotta get home quick. Love how excited they are when you are gone for a long time and you come home.





haha well yeah i had a good reason to be gone lol but yeah im gonna be so happy to see my dogs


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    #21747938 - 06/01/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Pitbulls probably bite more statistically because more people buy pitbulls to train ss attack dogs.  Nobody's buying jack russels to trsin to attack, but they could be.  I have known some really nadty labs owned by street kids who trained them to attack.  Super fuckin mean to other dogs and really skittish around humans.

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    #21749800 - 06/01/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Will probably be a few months, turns out most places charge and I don't have much money before I get housing benefits sorted out, but they vaccinated, etc so I suppose its fair.
It's gonna be soo hard seeing all the poor dogs without a loving family and home and I'll only be able to pick one (well one atm) :feelsbadman:




Hmmmm, you should really consider whether a dog is something you really want or not if you can't afford it. IDK what your living situation is, but if you live in an apartment, there's also a pet deposit which tends to be around $300. You pay $75-$100 for a dog from the shelter, and it should already have all its vaccinations and be neutered and spayed.

You just have to get your pet tagged and licensed, which is another $50 per year or so. When the dog's vaccines run out, you can get each vaccine done for as low as $15 each.

Pet food will be a little more costly, around $30 per month I would estimate? Personally, I don't believe that pet food is really necessary though, you can always feed your dog leftovers from your food. Dogs have existed off meats and leftovers for centuries and centuries and have done just fine.


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    #21749817 - 06/01/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

No don't feed your dog leftovers as their source of food. Happened to a dog I had a long time ago. He was only supposed to weigh ~25-30 lbs but weighed 50lbs because of all the fatty meats and fried/processed food.


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    #21749819 - 06/01/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Since I got my dog I have only been away from him for hours, never days. That must be killing you inside home you gotta get home quick. Love how excited they are when you are gone for a long time and you come home.




Have you seen the footage of that dog owner who put a GoPro on his dog to see what he does when he leaves?

It's pretty sad, the dog just howls and cries searching for his owner the whole entire time.




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    #21749879 - 06/01/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been a cat guy all my life. I've been dog-sitting a terrier for the past week and it's been great. I've been getting out the house for walks/jogs, which I rarely do on my own so it's good for me and the dog. It makes the walks/jogs so much more enjoyable. It's good having a companion as well.
If I were to get a dog, I'd love to adopt a puppy at the local shelter.
Do you get dog breeds that are easier to train and look after? How do you train a dog? General stuff like that I need advice on.

Any advice and helpful information is appreciated :super:




Before you get a dog you should read a book titled The Art of Raising a Puppy.  Written by The Monks of New Skete.

Check out craigslist.  That's where I got mine and she was only 8 weeks old at the time...cost me $0 too. 

I would recommend a larger breed dog if you've got the space for it and enough time for the extra exercise that they require.

Will shedding be a problem for you?  This should be considered before you choose which one to take home with you.

Definitely crate train.

That said, DO IT!!!  Dogs are fricking great.  Fun as hell to play with too when you're tripping.


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    #21751924 - 06/02/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The little fella will be leaving in a few houurs:feelsbadman:


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    #21752045 - 06/02/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Definitely crate train.





Crate training is cruel. Paper train the dog for when you're away and expect the occasional mishap. Crate training is the equivalent of being put in the SHU in jail.


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    #21752073 - 06/02/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I am a dog groomer so I work with them all the time. My favorite breeds to work with and own are pit bulls and boxers. They are always the sweetest dogs, are always about pleasing their owner, and are very low maintenance grooming-wise.


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    #21756662 - 06/03/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Definitely crate train.





Crate training is cruel. Paper train the dog for when you're away and expect the occasional mishap. Crate training is the equivalent of being put in the SHU in jail.





Simply not true. From, of all places, the humane society.org...

Crating philosophy
Crate training uses a dog's natural instincts as a den animal. A wild dog's den is his home, a place to sleep, hide from danger, and raise a family. The crate becomes your dog's den, an ideal spot to snooze or take refuge during a thunderstorm.
The primary use for a crate is housetraining. Dogs don't like to soil their dens.
The crate can limit access to the rest of the house while he learns other rules, like not to chew on furniture.
Crates are a safe way to transport your dog in the car.

From me:  I'm not advocating throwing a dog in a crate and shutting the door for 8 hrs, at least not once they've been properly trained. The door is no longer on my dogs crate but she' LOVES her crate and spends the majority of her time in there when she's not eating or playing with me or visitors that I have over.


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    #21757512 - 06/03/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah some dogs might not need to be crate trained, especially if you've got a very dog-proof living area and never plan on travelling on a bus/train/plane with the dog, but it's not that mean.

We kept my lab in the crate overnight for the first year or two.  Very quickly he'll just go in on his own when you give him a cue, and lay down and go to sleep.  When he barks at 6am someone has to go out and let him go to the bathroom, then he is out all day (not outside all day, just not locked up).  It's not even close to animal abuse in my mind.

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    #21857043 - 06/25/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been a cat guy all my life. I've been dog-sitting a terrier for the past week and it's been great. I've been getting out the house for walks/jogs, which I rarely do on my own so it's good for me and the dog. It makes the walks/jogs so much more enjoyable. It's good having a companion as well.
If I were to get a dog, I'd love to adopt a puppy at the local shelter.
Do you get dog breeds that are easier to train and look after? How do you train a dog? General stuff like that I need advice on.

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    #21858324 - 06/26/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not yet. I think I am going to do with a kitten. Not sure.


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    #21858332 - 06/26/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

do you need something to depend on you so you feel loved? 

dont get a cat if you're going to keep it in an apartment, or make it indoor only.  dont get it declawed either.  Neither are very nice to do to an animal.


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    #21858341 - 06/26/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Who would get a cat declawed? That's fucking horrible but it would be an indoor cat:shrug:


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    #21858416 - 06/26/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

then get a fish or a cage pet


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    #21858422 - 06/26/15 02:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've been a cat guy all my life. I've been dog-sitting a terrier for the past week and it's been great. I've been getting out the house for walks/jogs, which I rarely do on my own so it's good for me and the dog. It makes the walks/jogs so much more enjoyable. It's good having a companion as well.
If I were to get a dog, I'd love to adopt a puppy at the local shelter.
Do you get dog breeds that are easier to train and look after? How do you train a dog? General stuff like that I need advice on.

Any advice and helpful information is appreciated :super:





as a dog lover myself I glade to see you are getting a dog possibly but you need to think about the dog, running on public streets and sidewalks will overtime injure a dog they are not meant to run on pavement or concrete .  find him a open field and let them run.

if you are in any doubt whether or not running on pavement or concrete hurts their paws take off your shoes and socks and go for a run.

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    #21858434 - 06/26/15 03:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that's good to know man cheers. there is plenty of grass/parks/fields here.


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    #21858439 - 06/26/15 03:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Don't get a pet if you're going to let it outside to invade other people's property. Fucking hate people in this neighborhood with all their outdoor cats. Fuck those people. Their cats come and shit IN MY garden and I get to dig my hands unknowingly into cat shit. I also get to step in their pet's shit constantly. I also get to clean up dead bird carcasses and all kinds of other nifty treasures they leave behind.

Your pet should not be my burden. You want to get a cat, keep the fucking thing indoors, ON YOUR PROPERTY. If you think it's cruel to get a cat and keep it indoors, then don't get a fucking cat unless you live in the middle of nowhere and no one but you has to clean up after your pet.


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    #21858450 - 06/26/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol guess what bro, you live in a world populated by other things. Quit geting your panties in a knot over such minor inconveniences.


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    #21858461 - 06/26/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Guess what bro, no other animal at all poses any kind of inconvenience. Dogs, squirrels, birds, possums, etc etc. None of these other animals in the neighborhood do anything that effects me in any way. It's cats, and pet cats that people just let run loose outside. So my point stands. If you live in a neighborhood and want a cat as a pet, keep it in your damn house. If you're not willing to do it, then don't get one. Cats are known menaces in confined neighborhoods. If you get one with the intention of just letting it roam free, you're an asshole.


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    #21858464 - 06/26/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Dude if I lived by you Id adopt a ton of cats and let them run wild. I think itd be hilarious seeing you just flip out and start breaking shit when you went to garden and started digging up a ton of bird carcasses.


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    #21858468 - 06/26/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And if I knew you did it just to fuck with me I'd catch every one of them and take them to the pound.


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    #21858470 - 06/26/15 03:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This would be almost hilariously cartoonish :lol:


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    #21858478 - 06/26/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly you'd grow tired of it before I would. It takes almost 0 effort to trap a cat and the pound is literally like a 3 minute drive from here.

The only thing that stops me from doing this now with the cats in the neighborhood is that I know they're someone's pet that they actually care about and aren't just doing it to piss me off or something. It's still annoying and they're still assholes for doing it.


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    #21858625 - 06/26/15 05:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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It takes almost 0 effort to trap a cat




Really?  I'd say you're overconfident in your abilities.  Some cats are easy to trap because they trust people, but other than that, no.

You have a serious problem.  I mean I am more of a dog person myself, but what the hell did cats do to you?


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    #21860090 - 06/26/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

All cats are homosexuals. Not that there's anything wrong with that I'm just saying.

Get a dog. I'm sure I'll get some shit from cat owners for saying this but dogs are so much better as a pet than cats are in every way


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    #21860120 - 06/26/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You're "just saying" isn't in any way funny, original, or insightful.  Just saying.


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    #21861116 - 06/26/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #21861856 - 06/26/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Those things have so many issues due to inbreeding its not even funny. Compulsive tail chasing for hours, bad knees, skin problems, too many teeth, short life spans and a predilection to a host of diseases. If you want a good dog go for a mixed breed.


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    #21905544 - 07/06/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Every Tuesday and Thursday from 7 am to 4pm, I will be back to dog-sitting the same wee guy as last time. The owner is a retired women and friend, who works those only two days.
This will more experience and help me decide if I REALLY want a dog. :shrug:


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    #21905809 - 07/06/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Get an Alaskan malamu. They're fully wolves and howl and shit


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    #21910662 - 07/07/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #22018605 - 07/30/15 07:17 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I was dog-sitting the same doggy and was out for a walk.
The fucking little thing got into a fucking fight with a boxer 3 times the size of it. My dogs collar broke almost instantly and the other guy me/went for the boxers collar... that broke off as well. They had a violent scruff that lasted 10 seconds. The other guy eventually got the boxer secured and that was the end of it.
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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #22019746 - 07/30/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

fucking hate surprise dog issues, seems like something like the collar breaking or someone drops a leash ect ect always happens.

i have a ton of little rat dogs down here that no on keeps on leash, they run right up to my pups all the time :ffffuuu:


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    #22060085 - 08/07/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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I was dog-sitting the same doggy and was out for a walk.
The fucking little thing got into a fucking fight with a boxer 3 times the size of it. My dogs collar broke almost instantly and the other guy me/went for the boxers collar... that broke off as well. They had a violent scruff that lasted 10 seconds. The other guy eventually got the boxer secured and that was the end of it.
As violent as it looked, neither dog had visible injuries but I'll notify the owner to make sure she keeps an eye out for any internal injuries :shrug:




My dog gets into scuffles in the park and on the streets from time to time - usually a tennis ball triggers it.  You never want to let your guard down but 99% of the time the fight sounds and looks way worse than it is.  My dog and her opponent usually "figure it out" by the time I can get in there to break it up.

DUDE:  I'm keeping an eye on this thread waiting for you to take the plunge and get a puppy/dog....DO IT!!!!  You absolutely will not regret it.:thumbup:


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    #22060366 - 08/07/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

cats are more chill man you can smoke with them n watch a movie n shit and they dont give a fuck. srls man just keep ur cat


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    #22062059 - 08/08/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

My sisters partner is moving in. We are considering 2 kittens or 1 puppy.


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    #22062251 - 08/08/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Having a fenced in backyard will be a lifesaver. Choose your breed to fit your lifestyle. If you get a puppy be prepared to dedicate most of your free time to raising it. They behave like puppies for about 3 years so don't expect them to just get it off the bat. Kennel training is very helpful but after 6 months or so I let them roam loose in the house. Socialization is the most important thing with dogs. Take em to meet all your family and friends. Letting them hang out with older trained dogs will teach them good behavior too. When dogs play it can look like they are seriously fighting so don't freek out unless they start whimpering or whining really bad.


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    #22062821 - 08/08/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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My sisters partner is moving in. We are considering 2 kittens or 1 puppy.



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    #22257789 - 09/18/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I've been a cat guy all my life. I've been dog-sitting a terrier for the past week and it's been great. I've been getting out the house for walks/jogs, which I rarely do on my own so it's good for me and the dog. It makes the walks/jogs so much more enjoyable. It's good having a companion as well.
If I were to get a dog, I'd love to adopt a puppy at the local shelter.
Do you get dog breeds that are easier to train and look after? How do you train a dog? General stuff like that I need advice on.

Any advice and helpful information is appreciated :super:





Any closer to making one of the best decisions of your life???  Brought my dog to work today which was totally fucking awesome...for me and everyone in my office (fortunately they are all dog people).


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    #22257809 - 09/18/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Got my last two dogs from the pound and am very happy to have had them in my life.


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    #22297088 - 09/27/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dog sitting again. When taking him out for a short pee in the garden, he eats old poos that must have been left by cats :lolwut:
I googled it, it's called Coprophagia. Could be one of many reasons:shrug:
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    #22297093 - 09/27/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of dogs do it. There are a few reasons they may do it. A couple are puppies learn to eat shit from their mother who eats their shit to keep them clean, shit can have vitamins and stuff and in the wild a dog not having much luck finding food may turn to that to keep going. So it's kind of instinctual.

My dog will eat cat shit if I don't pay attention to what she's sniffing around at in the yard. Why people get fucking cats and just leave them outside 24/7 to go shit and play in other people's yards is beyond me. Then again, I don't even leave my dogs outside.


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    #22678709 - 12/20/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I'm getting 2 kittens instead. Not necessarily my choice. My sister and her partner surprised me. They will be here in January :feelsgoodman:


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WOOF:starecat:


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    #22749664 - 01/07/16 06:51 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

best dog ever is right here

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best dog ever is right here

:penguindog:

they're pretty rare though and will run you like 3.7 million bucks give or take on the black market




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    #22749708 - 01/07/16 07:09 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Oh no my 9 month Boston broke a dew claw!

I cleaned, disinfected, and clipped the remaining nail.  Luckily it broke just above the pink and he only bled a drop.  Poor guy was limping, went too hard chasing the ball :smile:  I might start clipping his nails a bit shorter too so it doesn't happen again.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: daz01]
    #22749747 - 01/07/16 07:17 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

what kinda dog breed is that?


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    #22749775 - 01/07/16 07:26 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

My Boston Terrier is a great dog so far, his face is so funny and cute and he's so goofy and sweet.  I love when his under lip gets stuck hanging down its hilarious.  He's not too big not too small, capable physically but not too large.  He's buff and stalky ,  strong like a bulldog, but more agile with long legs.  He's loyal and attentive, he listens to commands but I made sure to bond with him well from the beginning.  I am comfortable walking him off leash because he follows me and listens.  He gets really excited when he sees other dogs though and I need to command him to stay  some times and as of late he's been listening every time.  I treat my pup well though so he likes me haha.

I think he's a great household companion dog.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Shins]
    #22749776 - 01/07/16 07:26 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Thems is their racin claws. When they run and take sharp turns thems dewclaws dig into the ground and make thems accelerate more faster thens thems other dogs.


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    #22749796 - 01/07/16 07:31 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Yeah I'm conflicted about how to trim his nails.  On one hand dogs need claws to reach their full athletic potential, but also domestic dogs don't wear down their claws as much.  I think he needs to toughen up his paws too a bit, he's still a puppy.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Shins]
    #22749849 - 01/07/16 07:47 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

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I think he's a great household companion dog.



true that!

i rescued me a pup while i was living up in the yukon--the best travel companion i could have ever asked for--exploring the world has never been better

she's a pure blooded northern mutt--mainly border collie crossed with tahltan bear dog (endemic to northwest canada), but she's also got some cocker spaniel, alaskan husky, black lab, and fox in her

so intelligent she can outsmart me, loyal enough to never leave my side, and fearless no matter where i ask her to follow me


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Shins]
    #22749856 - 01/07/16 07:48 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Puppies are high maintenance - especially compared to cats.

You will be dealing with lots of unexpected dog shit/pee in the house and a lot of loud noise while you're crate training, and the woes of teaching them to walk on a leash(you'd think they'd take to it like a fish to water, but puppies usually plant themselves and refuse to walk altogether, and it's always a pain in the ass at first. Not to mention, the time commitments - it's important to be home to let them out frequently or get someone else to, and it's not super fun for the puppy to be crated all day while you're at work and all night while you're sleeping - and it'll mean more energy which means more headaches.

I would suggest getting a slightly older dog - they're chill as fuck, house broken, usually have some kind of training(or at least you're not gonna be starting from scratch) and they have a harder time adopting them out because everyone wants a puppy.

That being said puppies are fun and imo they're worth all the trouble - but make no mistake, it definitely requires time, effort, and patience to properly train and take care of one. I would highly, highly suggest you enroll in an obedience class of some kind - this will help the dog socialize and get used to other dogs while teaching you how to train effectively. I would also say look into doggie daycare or dogwalking of some kind if you work a 9-5, that way someone can at least come in the middle of the day and let the dog out to go to the bathroom and stretch it's legs.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: pirate-blues]
    #22749957 - 01/07/16 08:14 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

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I would suggest getting a slightly older dog cat - they're chill as fuck, house broken, usually have some kind of training.




Cats train you.  You'll be a better person for it


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22749995 - 01/07/16 08:26 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

Border collie/BC mixes > all other dogs.


Take it from someone who has 40 hours a week, every week, in a building with 75-100 dogs, for the last 7 months. For a great all-around companion, Border Collie is the way to go. Aussies are great, too.


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    #22750046 - 01/07/16 08:36 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

I have a doggy daycare a block away I take my guy to occasionally. It definitely is a big help.  When I get home he's played out and walked.  Getting a puppy is a big responsibility yes, you will have to spend significant free time doing dog chores.  For me, the bonding from puppy stage is important though.  I got him from a good breeder and visited him before we took him home too.  All the work is worth it if you like your dog.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Shins]
    #22750058 - 01/07/16 08:40 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

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I have a doggy daycare a block away I take my guy to occasionally. It definitely is a big help.  When I get home he's played out and walked.  Getting a puppy is a big responsibility yes, you will have to spend significant free time doing dog chores.  For me, the bonding from puppy stage is important though.  I got him from a good breeder and visited him before we took him home too.  All the work is worth it if you like your dog.



Damn I didn't realize dog daycares were so prevalent.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Shins]
    #22750063 - 01/07/16 08:40 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

yea, i like to reflect on the fact that,  as amazing a companion my pup already is, it's only a glimmer of the unspoken connection we'll grow in a couple years


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #22750581 - 01/07/16 10:37 PM (8 years, 23 days ago)

damn im getting kinda bummed and motivated over here.

had to put down my JRT of 15 years recently and saw a jack russell terrier who looked almost exactly like him up for adoption for free on craigslist.

i really wanted to call them but i'm broke right now and the landlord officially has a one dog only policy but he's never here and would probably never know.


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Re: Thinking of getting a dog. Need dog experts. [Re: Shins]
    #22751412 - 01/08/16 06:22 AM (8 years, 23 days ago)

mmmm yeah im conflicted about the nail cutting too.  I would use a guillotine and shank them nails back all the way to the hairline.  dont worry if they start spurting blood like an artery.  He wont need a nailtrim for a few months.  :bathtub40lol:


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    #22751415 - 01/08/16 06:24 AM (8 years, 23 days ago)

in case you're thinking of doing that, dont.


If you're not good at trimming dog nails then pay a professional to do it.  you can really traumatize them and make it impossible in the future if you do it incorrectly.


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