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OfflineIndubitableness
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Can any of you grow Ergot?
    #2173903 - 12/13/03 01:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm assuming if i want any practical knowledge on the biology of Ergot i'm going to have to try looking it up, i have yet to look through the archives (i know it's against the rules SORRY) but i'd like to speak to someone presently (i.e. in the same conversation) who might have some actual experience in cultivating this , as far as i'm currently concerned, mysterious fungi.

Does it need live hosts? or can it be cultivated with standard culture methods? I'm ASSUMING it's parasitic in nature.

Any information, even if inaccurate, would be appreciated.


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OfflineRandolph_Carter
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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Indubitableness]
    #2173927 - 12/13/03 01:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah...shits dangerous.
info for ya tho...
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=8777
http://www.rhodium.ws/pdf/claviceps.identification.pdf

Also, check the hive for info...they might be more up to date on this.
there's a document by someone with my name detailing growth in a kiddie pool...
One thing to remember tho....THIS SHIT WILL KILL YOU. No joke. Dead. Nastily.
Play safe!
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OfflineIndubitableness
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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #2175207 - 12/13/03 06:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Damn... i didn't know that, i assumed it would be like morning glory seeds. well fuck the whole exercise i suppose


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Indubitableness]
    #2176191 - 12/14/03 06:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i don't know why anyone would want to grow ergot, it's just a waste of time...many other ways to go if you ask me....i personally wouldn't like dying of some gangrenous infection, especially when there are easier ways out there.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: llamaboy]
    #2176341 - 12/14/03 09:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

>i don't know why anyone would want to grow ergot, it's just a waste of time...many other ways to go if you ask me....i personally wouldn't like dying of some gangrenous infection, especially when there are easier ways out there.

Im assuming that there is people that grow ergot somewhere, how else could there be a large supply of ET, which is extracted from ergot.

But im not sure, that just my guess

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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Erik006]
    #2176352 - 12/14/03 09:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ergot culture is the easiest way to produce pure LSD crystal , but u need good chemistry knowledge to do purification , coz YES, ergot can kill u , lots of bad ( fatal ) stuff .


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: YesItsMe]
    #2176833 - 12/14/03 03:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The purification isn't difficult...look at the shit that comes afterwards.
Bottom line, if you have to ask a question like this, you are no where near capable of performing said task in an underground environment.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #2177342 - 12/14/03 06:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You need to grow it in like a 30% sucrose medium in order to produce alkaloids -- I don't know if you can grow the sclerotia -- there has been debate over this.

Growin it in a liquid medium with 30% sucrose will produce alkaloids, though.

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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: micro]
    #2177384 - 12/14/03 07:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the majority of the methods i've seen involve going into the field to find a live specimen and propagating from there...i've never looked into the propogation of a strain...


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #2177634 - 12/14/03 09:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

when i said that there are easier ways out there, i really meant that there are...someone had mentioned something about pure ET...now, if someone has taken the time to already cultivate the ergot and then make ET, why just not use the ET that someone had already made?...i think i feel a migraine coming on :P


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: llamaboy]
    #2177798 - 12/14/03 10:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Good luck finding a non-traceable source of ET.... that kind of thing tends to be watched more than television.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #2178012 - 12/15/03 12:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

oh....romanians are a great thing :P *cough* i think i've said too much.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: llamaboy]
    #2178022 - 12/15/03 12:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, ergot is used in the manufacturing of LSD. Buy it and expect to be watched. The DEA keeps close tabs on this.

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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Lana]
    #2178095 - 12/15/03 01:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There is at least one place that I know of that sells ergot fungus, and they sell it in bulk. It's not hard to find, but if you do order it, expect to be watched. Also, even if you get it, you will most likely end up producing a very toxic mess if you try to make cid out of it with out the proper chemistry knowlege.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #2178167 - 12/15/03 01:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Randolph Carter said:
Good luck finding a non-traceable source of ET.... that kind of thing tends to be watched more than television.




so is red phosphorus but you can pick that up on ebay, it's not only used for production of meth as well as match box strikers, there's always a source for the products you need but you really have to be careful of what you do with it after the purchase, nothing in your posession that would constitute illegal use


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Granola]
    #2178864 - 12/15/03 06:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There's a difference between taking the time to learn how to propagate a lifeform, and subsequently extract and alter the alkaloids the lifeform propagated through metabolic processes, and taking the easy way out, of course... small steps must be taken, and the easy way would be the way to begin. But without the full experience, there are things to learn about Creation I'd miss out on.

"The more you understand about creation, the more you can know it's Creator." ~ Some Guy.

I appreciate everyone's help.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Indubitableness]
    #2178876 - 12/15/03 06:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i don't plan on doing this in a country where it is illegal to do so. This is felony territory and i do not risk such things, i'd just like knowledge... knowledge is good.... it's the only thing we can really call important as far as i'm concerned.


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: Indubitableness]
    #2178972 - 12/15/03 09:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

so is red phosphorus but you can pick that up on ebay




I can't find any....

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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: micro]
    #2180118 - 12/15/03 06:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

regardless, the original point was a "non-traceable" source. Do you think that they don't follow and trace everything questionable that happens on ebay?


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Re: Can any of you grow Ergot? [Re: micro]
    #2180135 - 12/15/03 06:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

micro said:
Quote:

so is red phosphorus but you can pick that up on ebay



I can't find any....

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Edited by Granola (12/15/03 06:26 PM)


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