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Another English question: "then", "and", "and then".
    #21738970 - 05/29/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello.  Consider the following three sentences:

1.  I want to throw my arm around him, then kiss him on the cheek.
2.  I want to throw my arm around him, and kiss him on the cheek.
3.  I want to throw my arm around him, and then kiss him on the cheek.

Which is correct?  Thanks.


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: WAN]
    #21739010 - 05/29/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They all look okay, the first and the third are expressing a past tense while the second is present tense. As a general rule you want to be as concise as possible while still getting the point across. So I would go with one or two depending on what tense you want to express.


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: WAN]
    #21739031 - 05/29/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sentence 1 is correct as 1 event takes place followed by another. It doesn't need a comma.
Sentence 2 doesn't need a comma and implies the two events are taking place at the same time
Sentence 3 is also correct and can be used in place of sentence 1. A comma is required here.


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #21739058 - 05/29/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I remember I wanted to take a community college course to get ahead at my University cause the credits transfer over and such. They made me take that Reading Accuplacer shit even though I was already in University. The lady was a bitch, I took that shit and I honestly thought wow that was weird kinda confusing. I got a 100%.. lol felt so good emailing that bitch and telling her yeah I got a 100% now can i take fucking anthropology 101


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: Gorlax]
    #21740076 - 05/30/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think any of them need a comma.


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: Gorlax]
    #21740082 - 05/30/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Gorlax said:
I remember I wanted to take a community college course to get ahead at my University cause the credits transfer over and such. They made me take that Reading Accuplacer shit even though I was already in University. The lady was a bitch, I took that shit and I honestly thought wow that was weird kinda confusing. I got a 100%.. lol felt so good emailing that bitch and telling her yeah I got a 100% now can i take fucking anthropology 101




There's prerequisites for anthropology 101? :lol:

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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: WAN]
    #21740690 - 05/30/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

WAN said:
Hello.  Consider the following three sentences:

1.  I want to throw my arm around him, then kiss him on the cheek.
2.  I want to throw my arm around him, and kiss him on the cheek.
3.  I want to throw my arm around him, and then kiss him on the cheek.

Which is correct?  Thanks.



I would write it like this:

I want to throw my arm around him and kiss him on the cheek.
(or)
I want to throw my arm around him and then kiss him on the cheek.

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You do not need a comma.

source: I used to teach English as a second language.


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: D.M.T]
    #21740751 - 05/30/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You don't need the comma unless the second part also has a subject.

These are correct:
I want to throw my arm around him and then kiss him on the cheek.
I want to throw my arm around him then kiss him on the cheek.
I want to throw my arm around him, and then I want to kiss him on the cheek.
I want to throw my arm around him, then I want to kiss him on the cheek.



The "and" is mostly superfluous. It's not wrong or right, and you could use it for stylistic reasons. "And" just draws extra attention to the second thing.


Edited by Mr.GuessWork (05/30/15 12:04 PM)


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: K1ngSp4de]
    #21740791 - 05/30/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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K1ngSp4de said:
They all look okay, the first and the third are expressing a past tense while the second is present tense. As a general rule you want to be as concise as possible while still getting the point across. So I would go with one or two depending on what tense you want to express.



wrong.

"to throw" is present tense
"and then"/"then" is future tense; implying sequential order
"and" in conjunction with "to throw" remains present tense


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: I_was_the_walrus]
    #21741165 - 05/30/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I_was_the_walrus said:
Sentence 1 is correct as 1 event takes place followed by another. It doesn't need a comma.
Sentence 2 doesn't need a comma and implies the two events are taking place at the same time
Sentence 3 is also correct and can be used in place of sentence 1. A comma is required here.




#2 May need a comma as good practice. Some lawyers found a loophole with commas and exploited it.

For example look at this fictitious will.

"All my property and money shall be split up between, Jill, Jack and Jane."

That means Jill will get 50% of everything, but Jack, and Jane will have to split the other 50% instead of each getting 1/3. lol


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Re: Another English question: "then", "and", "and then". [Re: CaptainKurt]
    #21741173 - 05/30/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

#2 without the comma


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