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Help Please!
    #21738957 - 05/29/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so I have two jars that I'm pretty sure are contamed with bacteria however they dont smell or anything. But they are pinning before fully colonizing. Should I d&r& fruit?? What the hell should I do guys?


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21738988 - 05/29/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21738998 - 05/29/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If they are not fully colonized don't dunk just fruit it with a double end casing


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Re: Help Please! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21739014 - 05/29/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Be sure to scrape off the uncolonized parts when you birth the cakes. Any exposed, uncolonized brf will be a magnet for contams.


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739055 - 05/29/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I don't see any sign of contam, but generally to prevent pinning while the cakes are still colonizing, keep them in a dark spot. I usually leave the original tin foil I used during sterilization on the jars and that usually helps.


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Dhearic]
    #21739056 - 05/29/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok awesome! But whats a double end casing??? And should I try to leave the pins in tact?


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739060 - 05/29/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

And thank you sooooo much guys! My hopes and dreams arent ruined just yet!


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739072 - 05/29/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also I kept them in a dark closet. No airflow in there at all also.


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739160 - 05/29/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Idk what a double end casing is but you can birth wash off any uncolonized bits dunk 24hrs get a nice layer of verm on the outside and fruit them suckers they are prime!!!111!


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Zuto18]
    #21739185 - 05/29/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so I should wash dunk and birth. I hope they are because they are acting like theyre ready lol!


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Zuto18]
    #21739196 - 05/29/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Use a lid larger than the cake, place moist verm in it then add the cake then top the cake with about 1/4 inch moist verm. = double cased cake


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Re: Help Please! [Re: mush madness]
    #21739211 - 05/29/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Use a lid larger than the cake, place moist verm in it then add the cake then top the cake with about 1/4 inch moist verm. = double cased cake



Ah i see i should really try this...


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739219 - 05/29/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Ok so I should wash dunk and birth. I hope they are because they are acting like theyre ready lol!




They do not look fully colonized, dont dunk, remove the uncolonized portions and double case to help prevent further contamination


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Zuto18]
    #21739226 - 05/29/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok so I should use a wash the uncolonized brf and verm off until I reach mycelium and then do the lid and wet verm thing and not worry about the FC?


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739238 - 05/29/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would scrape it off, if contamination is present water will spread it. I would also start a few new cakes at this time

And yes put it in your fc


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Re: Help Please! [Re: mush madness]
    #21739252 - 05/29/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

That makes sense! But doesnt need to go in fruiting chamber after double end casing right? And just mist as usual?


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739266 - 05/29/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, goes into the fc as normal


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Re: Help Please! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21739279 - 05/29/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Ok guys yall are what makes Shroomery my favorite place in the internet world! Thanks good people and Ill post pics when they do their thing!:rockon:


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Re: Help Please! [Re: BoomBoom]
    #21739286 - 05/29/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cant wait to see them, best of luck


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Re: Help Please! [Re: mush madness]
    #21739304 - 05/29/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Help Please! [Re: LocN9ne]
    #21741530 - 05/30/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey i was doing some research and it turns out double end casing is kinda shit because if the verm underneath becomes wet mold and bacteria will thrive on it...


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Zuto18]
    #21741543 - 05/30/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Help Please! [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21741593 - 05/30/15 03:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6093357#6093357

at least explain why these guys are wrong then


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Zuto18]
    #21741613 - 05/30/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you use a quart lid and ring it wont hold extra water :wink:


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Re: Help Please! [Re: Zuto18]
    #21741720 - 05/30/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6093357#6093357

at least explain why these guys are wrong then



Experience is golden, I've ran 72 cakes (36 fruiting) (36 colonizing) alternating for a year straight and never had a problem with double end casing. What's the difference of having a cake rolled in verm sitting on foil? Water collects under the cake and on the foil just the same as the cake sitting on a moist verm layer except it doesn't pool up with a bottom layer of verm. I've never experienced or heard any negativity about a double end casing. I've ran cakes rolled and double end cased and both methods turned out fine

And is that the only thread you can find bashing a double end casing? Its over 8 years old


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Re: Help Please! [Re: mush madness]
    #21741841 - 05/30/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would dunk, roll, & fruit those bitches! *yes* double end and side casing on the ones that aren't fully colonized. You may want to sterilize the verm (and the double end cases) in an oven with the verm already pretty damp. Like others have stated you can also cut off the uncolonized part.
This has worked for me in the past. Or you could leave them go awhile longer and see if they will finish colonizing.... doubt it will though....looks to be some bacterial infection. Still not to say you can't pull some good fruits.....especially if you double case with sterilized wet verm.......:rockon: Good Luck Friend!


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Re: Help Please! [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21742036 - 05/30/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow guys well i didnt dunk and I did case. I also tripped my balls off of 1.8 grams of dry pins. I know why they didnt fully colonize and its because the verm layer was wet as shit at the bottom! Love to see fellow cultivators helping an inexperienced guy like myself! So stick around and well see how this double end casing thing works out!


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