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Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars
    #21736881 - 05/29/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

So I did some searching and couldn't find much info on this so I decided to make a thread.

I don't have a PC and since the Boston Bombing I don't plan on getting one unless it's under the table due to the attention they are gaining now.

I tried a new method of sterilizing my jars in a pot with a lid last night instead of the rings of the jar and aluminum foil covering the rings then the jars on top I just put the jars directly on the bottom and kept the water level low so it was more of a steam instead of boil.

I tried to tend to it as often as possible without letting the water run out but I think the heat cooked/burnt some of the bottom of the jars and they cracked due to not pouring the fresh water on the side of the aluminum foil I usually use.

Lesson learned.

I inoculated them anyways because I have plenty of prints and syringes and see if I can salvage anything. I can always make more PF tek recipe and syringes and do it the better way next time.

My simple question after all that is how will this effect the colonization of the jars if the bottom is slightly burnt/cooked in some areas while 90% of the jar at least or more is not.

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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: trunks]
    #21736926 - 05/29/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You haven't heard of steam sterilization? I'm not sure about burnt or cooked sub colonizing but I did the same thing with one attempt except the jars also cracked a little and they contamed immediately.


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Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...
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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: DensePlacebo]
    #21737004 - 05/29/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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You haven't heard of steam sterilization? I'm not sure about burnt or cooked sub colonizing but I did the same thing with one attempt except the jars also cracked a little and they contamed immediately.



Steam sterilization as in a low concentration of water in the bottom creating steam with a lid on top? Yes, that's what I did.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: trunks]
    #21737117 - 05/29/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

But you didn't put anything on the bottom to keep this from happening. Also the water should come up the side of the jars about an inch or two. Lots of people have great success without a PC. I did it for years.


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Alright then, picture this if you will:
10 to 2 AM, X, Yogi DMT, and a box of Krispy Kremes, in my "need to know" post, just outside of Area 51.
Contemplating the whole "chosen people" thing with just a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this.
Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my Birkenstocks, and me yelping...
Holy fucking shit!




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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: DensePlacebo]
    #21737519 - 05/29/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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But you didn't put anything on the bottom to keep this from happening. Also the water should come up the side of the jars about an inch or two. Lots of people have great success without a PC. I did it for years.



This ONE time I didn't put anything on the bottom and I do keep it about an inch on the jars anymore and I find it rises up and seeps into the innoc holes. I learned from this mistake and was simply asking would my jars still be able to colonize not asking how to steam sterilize.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: trunks]
    #21737540 - 05/29/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

they used sterilizers in Boston not pressure cookers. there's a little difference. there's nothing weird buying a pressure cooker right out in the open that's why they're for sale on shelves.

what happens is if there's no barrier between the bottom of the pot and your jars it goes like this

heat source (element or flame) ==direct contact== bottom of pan ==direct contact== bottom of jar.

water doesn't get hotter than 212F(sea level) if it does it turns to steam. more heat applied just means faster boil and more evaporation not hotter water.

your jars glass can easily get above 212F if there's no water between the glass and the bottom of the pan. that direct heat transfer can see your glass get to 400F or hotter easily and that will burn shit and crack glass no problem.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: trunks]
    #21737552 - 05/29/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't have a PC and since the Boston Bombing I don't plan on getting one unless it's under the table due to the attention they are gaining now.







Get a PC, buying one isn't suspect. You should be more paranoid about cultivating than buying the equipment to do so.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: djmako7]
    #21737575 - 05/29/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

you should be more paranoid about being paranoid. the only people I ever have personally known to ever get caught, trouble, law shit etc.. happen to them have been the most paranoid. just like rushing you make mistakes. paranoia is the least effective emotion to have to combat the things that cause you paranoia in the first place. paranoid people act different and that sets you apart from regular people doing regular things with pressure cookers.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21737868 - 05/29/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for regurgitating the same information over and over after I have stated that I learned my lesson and will not be doing it this way again. If anyone wants to answer my original question on: "will it still colonize?," feel free. Also, I'll turn my paranoid switch off. Brains work like that, ya know?


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: trunks]
    #21738102 - 05/29/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They were simply answering your real problem whether you knew it or not. Don't be hating. They trying to help.

It might colonize but probably not well in the burned parts. You should be able to wash off the uncolonized substrate and then see a flush. But this is a hobby where tiny things can stop you dead in the water so don't be surprised if it don't work well. Get a new grow going asap.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21738174 - 05/29/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Like he stated they can and possibly will but stall on the dried out section. If it was me, id let em rock and do what was suggested and cut off anything that posed a problem colonizing if it stalls and crumble them up and mix with coir/Vermiculite, or just crumble and case. And get more jars going in the meantime... I wouldn't really worry about buying a pressure cooker and attracting attention but if you are worried , steaming in a good pot with a nice fitting lid works great if you elevate your jars with lids and steam for 120 mins. Ive done it this way for years with a 10/100 going bad due to stalling and maybe two to green , probably from innoculating in open air more than my steaming method.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21738341 - 05/29/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah dont be worried about buying shit.
This was me at the store today.
Anyone who knows shit about shrooms would have known what I was up to.
Who the fuck buys 20 LB bird seed, 12 Jars, A scalpel tool, and  pressure cooker?



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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: Jsneeb]
    #21738397 - 05/29/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I get funny looks at the hydro shop. Okay sir that's 110 litres of verm, 10 kilos of coir, 30 lb bag of worm castings, 15 lbs of gypsum and 5 lbs of hydrated lime.


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Re: Cracked/Burnt bottom of 1/2 pint PF tek jars [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21738707 - 05/29/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My last jars got a little burnt and it pinned before colonizing the burnt parts. I cased it and got 5 grams dry


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