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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21744259 - 05/31/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Although we don't recommend temps above 80*F I'm more than sure you can still make it work. Just click on this link and you will find a new best friend.:rasta:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21744547 - 05/31/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Lawnboy1185 said:
All injections were on the outside of glass.  I only flamed every 3rd jar and the inoculation was done after the PC sat overnight.  They are in an open closet with just basic natural nighting when it comes in the room. 

My first grow stalled in an incubator so people on the board said to leave it in the open.  In NE the weather went from 65 to 85 real fast so the 76-83 is room temperature.




i think that was cause of contamination..

i think each newbies first mistake is  - they do not follow tek properly.. you should flame sterilize whole needle before inoculating every jar.

but :themoreyouknow: need to learn from your own mistakes.. like i did.had to pass nearly 2years of fails until i understand that first newbie rule is simple FOLLOW THE TEK. and then  BAM mushrooms!


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21745179 - 05/31/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They will colonize way better in complete dark. the sunlight is creating the humidity and causing them to release chemicals that say fruit now. I bet your luck will change if you keep them out of light until full colonization :cool:


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745188 - 05/31/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:justno:


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745206 - 05/31/15 03:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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rmshroom said:
They will colonize way better in complete dark. the sunlight is creating the humidity and causing them to release chemicals that say fruit now. I bet your luck will change if you keep them out of light until full colonization :cool:




Dont listen to bad completely untrue advice


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: PFFFT]
    #21745252 - 05/31/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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PFFFT said:
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Lawnboy1185 said:
All injections were on the outside of glass.  I only flamed every 3rd jar and the inoculation was done after the PC sat overnight.  They are in an open closet with just basic natural nighting when it comes in the room. 

My first grow stalled in an incubator so people on the board said to leave it in the open.  In NE the weather went from 65 to 85 real fast so the 76-83 is room temperature.




i think that was cause of contamination..

i think each newbies first mistake is  - they do not follow tek properly.. you should flame sterilize whole needle before inoculating every jar.

but :themoreyouknow: need to learn from your own mistakes.. like i did.had to pass nearly 2years of fails until i understand that first newbie rule is simple FOLLOW THE TEK. and then  BAM mushrooms!





He had a glove box. He should have been fine. I am guessing it is the way he is making his substrate or the amount of light exposure.

Do you add the water to vermic and then flour in that order? And it was every third jar so 1 of every three should at least be sterile.


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745277 - 05/31/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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rmshroom said:
I am guessing




stop doing that! :shakefist:


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745294 - 05/31/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I clearly don't know anything but here are my jars in wild bird seed. This is a easy cheap effective method here is a great tutorial and linkhttps { ://www.shroomology.org/topic/6-how-to-grow-magic-mushrooms-shrooms-in-bulk/ } this guy is a badass and inspired by the shroomery.





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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #21745305 - 05/31/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
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rmshroom said:
I am guessing




stop doing that! :shakefist:




Oh so you know the solution for a fact? I am excited to hear it.


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745315 - 05/31/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

it has nothing to do with lights. I've offered my help but OP haven't responded to any of it yet.

also please kill the link to the off site abomination of a website you linked, that whole site makes me wanna punch my screen!

and a little tip even tho this isn't your thread some of your jars look bacterial and all of them are ready for a shake.


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #21745333 - 05/31/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
it has nothing to do with lights. I've offered my help but OP haven't responded to any of it yet.

also please kill the link to the off site abomination of a website you linked, that whole site makes me wanna punch my screen!

and a little tip even tho this isn't your thread some of your jars look bacterial and all of them are ready for a shake.




Is someone jealous??


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745344 - 05/31/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

of what? I see you reply that to most people who disagree with you. I like my grains without bacteria in them :shrug:


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745345 - 05/31/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The middle lone jar is shook to show the difference if your curious space child. And thanks for the advice you are a kind person :crazy2:


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21745576 - 05/31/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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rmshroom said:
They will colonize way better in complete dark. the sunlight is creating the humidity and causing them to release chemicals that say fruit now. I bet your luck will change if you keep them out of light until full colonization :cool:



they will NOT colonize better in complete dark. it was discussed earlier ant proven that mycelium grows way better in ambient light than in total darkness.
do more research before posting wrong information!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16991017#16991017

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They will colonize way better in complete dark. the sunlight is creating the humidity and causing them to release chemicals that say fruit now. I bet your luck will change if you keep them out of light until full colonization :cool:


:doublefacepalm:


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: PFFFT]
    #21745595 - 05/31/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I made some other jars as well and these have no contaminated yet but I can see drops of water inside all of the jars.  What is causing the condensation inside?

I mixed 2 cups of verm with 1 cup of water and mixed it in real good, then added the 1 cup brf.



Why is there condensation???  My room temp fluctuated from 76-83ish...but never above that so I'm not sure why the jars are becoming wet on the inside.


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21745612 - 05/31/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My apology in the light thing, but when i tried it on my first incubation I had no success. Just mold. I may have had to much indirect, idk.

And you made sure your sub was not sticking together in big clumps and you put it in the jars without packing them down so they are nice and fluff like?


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: spacechildo]
    #21745790 - 05/31/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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spacechildo said:
of what? I see you reply that to most people who disagree with you. I like my grains without bacteria in them :shrug:




ha ha ha haaa me too coincidently .


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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: professorFATTYCAP]
    #21746466 - 05/31/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yea its too bad I got over 1000 grams wet today and more to harvest in the morning. I guess thats what shitty grains do….





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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: rmshroom]
    #21746518 - 05/31/15 09:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:yay:

hooray! I love troll threads!

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Re: Contamination problems....HELP!!!!!! [Re: Lawnboy1185]
    #21747270 - 06/01/15 03:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Lawnboy1185 said:
I made some other jars as well and these have no contaminated yet but I can see drops of water inside all of the jars.  What is causing the condensation inside?

I mixed 2 cups of verm with 1 cup of water and mixed it in real good, then added the 1 cup brf.



Why is there condensation???  My room temp fluctuated from 76-83ish...but never above that so I'm not sure why the jars are becoming wet on the inside.



it because bit high temperature and that  jumping is not helping too.

and cause that creating condensation is that inside your jar is bit warmer than inside your room..
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The temperature of the entire content of the jars will not equalize to the tub temperature.

Colonizing mycelium generates heat, so the inside of the jars will be 2 to 5 degrees warmer than the air they sit in, meaning an 86F incubator can easily have 90F jars sitting in it, which is too much and favors contaminants such as thermophilic bacteria.

80 to 83F should be considered maximum temperature for colonizing. Personally, I colonize jars on an open shelf at normal room temperature.
RR





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