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Can I let my jars colonize outside? Temp range consistently 75-85 F
    #21736514 - 05/29/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

As long as they're in a container not allowing light in and in a safe place away from the elements and I let my jars colonize outside since my climate is perfectly ideal for cubensis? That temp range shouldn't cause fruiting without exposure to light right? I'll bring them inside to my terrarium at about 72F for fruiting. The actually temp rang outside in the place I will have them likely will only fluctuate five degrees 79ish-84ish


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Re: Can I let my jars colonize outside? Temp range consistently 75-85 F [Re: cwolfe21]
    #21736585 - 05/29/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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As long as they're in a container not allowing light in and in a safe place away from the elements and I let my jars colonize outside since my climate is perfectly ideal for cubensis? That temp range shouldn't cause fruiting without exposure to light right?



First of all keeping colonizing jars in the dark is outdated, light is not a main pinning trigger.

Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 83F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.


Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years.  Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger.
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I'll bring them inside to my terrarium at about 72F for fruiting. The actually temp rang outside in the place I will have them likely will only fluctuate five degrees 79ish-84ish




Just keep them on a shelf in a room.


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Re: Can I let my jars colonize outside? Temp range consistently 75-85 F [Re: PussyFart]
    #21736622 - 05/29/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm confused, I've read too many things implying that a higher temperature for inoculation/colonization increases the growth rate. Also, where I live cubensis grow pretty commonly in the wild and the only time that fruit is at night when the temperature drops. So that seems to imply temperature plays a role. Also, I don't why I would want to fruit at 80 when that would produce a less dense fruit.


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Re: Can I let my jars colonize outside? Temp range consistently 75-85 F [Re: PussyFart]
    #21737001 - 05/29/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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cwolfe21 said:
As long as they're in a container not allowing light in and in a safe place away from the elements and I let my jars colonize outside since my climate is perfectly ideal for cubensis? That temp range shouldn't cause fruiting without exposure to light right?



First of all keeping colonizing jars in the dark is outdated, light is not a main pinning trigger.

Jars/bags/tubs/trays should colonize @ room temperature getting ambient/indirect light.

Main pinning triggers are full colonization, FAE and Evaporation off of the substrate.

Light is a secondary pinning trigger. For tropical species temperature is not a pinning factor.

P. Cubensis are a tropical species. You could colonize at 70F and fruit at 80F with great results.

Light has been proven beneficial during all stages of mycellium growth. Mushrooms like mammals have a circadian rhythm.

You want ambient/indirect light(on a 12/12 schedule preferably) for colonization and consolidation.

You want direct/intense 6500K light on a 12/12 schedule for fruiting.

Optimal temps are mid 70s throughout the whole grow, but anywhere from 65F-80F is acceptable.

Incubation is outdated/uneeded unless temps in the range stated above cannot be kept.

The inside of the jar is always a few degrees warmer than the outside because the mycellium produces heat..mycellium tends to stall at temps above 83F , and contams thrive.

Fruiting at cooler temps tends to produce denser, meatier fruits, while fruiting at higher temps will often produce hollow, less dense stems.


Mycelium should be exposed to ambient room light from day of inoculation as has been known for many years.  Light is not a pinning trigger until after full colonization and an increase in air is given, and even then it's a secondary pinning trigger.
RR

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cwolfe21 said:
I'll bring them inside to my terrarium at about 72F for fruiting. The actually temp rang outside in the place I will have them likely will only fluctuate five degrees 79ish-84ish




Just keep them on a shelf in a room.




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What you read must have been wrong or outdated. PF is a mod for a reason.


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