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OfflineSamhain
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My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why?
    #21736402 - 05/29/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

First, Hello World. I've read this site for many years but only just now have a question I can't find an answer to. Thanks for the years of education.
So here's my situation, I need this explained to me, I can't tell if I'm missing something.
A few months ago I grabbed a frisco syringe from Ralphsters. I wanted to experiment around with it since there isn't a ton of reliable information on it. I had heard it is a woodlover, takes many months to fruit, and will not grow inside.
Well either I got the wrong syringe, I was misinformed, or I managed to prove all of that wrong without trying.
I injected 6 BRF cakes two months ago. They colonized noticeably slower than the other cubensis strains I had, taking about a month longer to fill in the jar as my brazil and SA jars. I kind of forgot about them for a while, being lazy and not buying the wood chips I needed, and ended up letting them sit about a week or two past full colonization (2 months past inoculation, tops). They've been high up on a shelf, in room temperature, indirect 6500k light, still in the brf jars. And this is what I found today.

Now I've seen partial fruiting of a woodlover on a brf cake before, but it was just one very stringy mushroom that never formed a cap. The jars I have now show extensive and healthy fruiting.

How did this happen? Was I misinformed about Frisco's? Did I receive the wrong spores? Am I a descendant from mystical woodland mycology elves?


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: Samhain]
    #21736426 - 05/29/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

pop em out and fruit 'em;

All pins pin pins and are pins pins but pins pin pins again...they look like cubes in jar to me :shrug:

but there's that thing about pins :rolleyes:


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21736438 - 05/29/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i vote they are cubes too


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21736471 - 05/29/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yup, you've got cubes there bruh :jah:


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I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21736481 - 05/29/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

My first instinct was to assume they were cubes too, and I must have received the wrong syringe. But then why did all 6 of these cakes take an extra month to colonize? I realize it's much more likely that these are cubes then frisco, but that'd be a pretty strange coincidence for all these jars colonizing the same way, yet differently from all my other cubes.
I just would like to find an explanation for that, I'm not trying to convince myself these are friscos.


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: Samhain]
    #21736494 - 05/29/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

oh simple; Were all six of the jars prepared at the same time, from the same batch of brf/verm and with the same water content and inoculated from the same syringe and all six neglected long enough to fruit in-vitro???


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
    #21736519 - 05/29/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: Aero]
    #21736545 - 05/29/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

They were sold as cyanofriscosa, so I don't think it's the Allen relation that caused the confusion. Although I could be wrong if you have another reason for thinking that.
I made many jars at the same time, and the only difference in any of them was the syringe. I realize that may have caused the difference, but I've never seen cubes take so long to colonize for no reason other than genetics. Again, many other jars with the same substrate colonized right on time, during the same week, even though there were different strains. Are there cube strains known for taking an entire extra month to colonize? Because genetics is the only variable I can think of.
And they went into fruiting right after I took the picture, I just want to understand what's going on.


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: Samhain]
    #21736551 - 05/29/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Samhain said:
They were sold as cyanofriscosa, so I don't think it's the Allen relation that caused the confusion. Although I could be wrong if you have another reason for thinking that.
I made many jars at the same time, and the only difference in any of them was the syringe. I realize that may have caused the difference, but I've never seen cubes take so long to colonize for no reason other than genetics. Again, many other jars with the same substrate colonized right on time, during the same week, even though there were different strains. Are there cube strains known for taking an entire extra month to colonize? Because genetics is the only variable I can think of.
And they went into fruiting right after I took the picture, I just want to understand what's going on.



then fruit them and lets see what u got there, without fruiting them properly its never 100%
but they definitely look like cubensis


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: Aero]
    #21736574 - 05/29/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yep they're fruiting now. If it's anything interesting youll hear from me, if not, our buddy Ralph will:tongue:


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: Samhain]
    #21736904 - 05/29/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cubensis for sure. Doesn't even look close to an Allenii. Contact the vendor and tell them the spores weren't right under the scope.


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: 36fuckin5]
    #21752357 - 06/02/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!

I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~


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Re: My P. Allenii (friscosa) is growing indoors, on a brf cake. Why? [Re: slapphappypill]
    #21752412 - 06/02/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

what happened to OP?


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