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Rebelutionsssss
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quazerjunkie420 said: First time I tryed salvia I smoked 20X in my bong...it was awsome....like an hour after I smoked it again...ive smoked it probly a few hundred times over the years....its worth doing whenever possable....you come down so quick...even if shit goes wrong you get delivered back to reality instantaniously. You realy have to do a bunch of doses in a row to learn from the experiance the same way you might from other psycadelics IMO
.ive only successfully lifted off with leaves once. I had to smoke bowl after bowl furiously for like a minute or two.....was a waste of effort...extract is better and is definetly worth trying....just make sure you put your big boy pants on that day. Cuz it will take you so far out that you very well might hate the journey....the 2 -15 minutes youl be trippin will go by very quick and you will probpy sweat alot....and alllllllllll sorts of psycotic shit will unfold....you might not even remember it once you "wake up". People who have bad experiances just underestimate the experiance. There is nothing that compares.
uhhhh almost every other psychedelic blows salvia out of the water. How are you going to say salvia beats LSD or psilocybin
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quazerjunkie420
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I didnt say it was better or worse...just said nothin compares....honestly tho....I do think its the most convenient trip....because of its duration. This makes it a practical choice if theres not tons of time to devote to the experiance...
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Amanita86
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You have to go gravity bong with straight leaf..
Its funny the sweating thing.. i have this thing where it makes me want to drool, my mouth waters.. and the the fabrics of reality tear away from my skin which hurts sometimes.. and then the ticking starts...*tick,tick,tick,..*
If you know what Im talking about, you know what Im talking about..
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Amanita86
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Amanita86]
#21741406 - 05/30/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have any of you ever seen the little people? They come out of your peripheral..
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quazerjunkie420 said: I didnt say it was better or worse...just said nothin compares....honestly tho....I do think its the most convenient trip....because of its duration. This makes it a practical choice if theres not tons of time to devote to the experiance...
Nothing compares at all not even close, its unlike any psychedelic. Personally I dont even consider it to be a psychedelic.
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partyinthestars
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WhiteRabbit91 said:Is Salvia fun?
Salvia Divinorum is the most potent and intense drug I've ever experimented with. When I was eighteen I was on a k2 kick for awhile. A good friend (C) and I finished off a bag of k2 from a local liquor store and while we were beginning to come down from the effects of the k2 slightly an old buddy (G) sent me a txt. G asked if me and my friends wanted to come by and try Salvia because our other friend's (J) parents had a huge stash from when it was still legal in our state. Me and my k2-buddy C hit up our other friends (T & A) and we all got together then went over to my G's place. When we arrived G greeted us and lead us into his room (the garage). I had heard about Salvia, but only that it was a hallucinogen. I hadn't read much more into it, but my friend T told me about it from his past experiences, but he wouldn't do it with his girlfriend A there with us (he did later though!). While we were getting prepared to do it, G was explaining his experience with Sally and that he found himself awaking in a dark room seeing himself infront of him, tearing each of his own limbs of and the other him would laugh as he did this. I was even more intrigued to see what the effects were going to be like. G & J recommended that me and C try the 40x, as it will guarantee us to feel the effects from one pipe full per both of us. We said why the hell not, and proceeded. J packed the pipe for C, full to the top of the wooden Gandalf-looking pipe and handed it to C; G & J told C to rip the Salvia until it was cached and then hold it in and count to about fourteen, C ripped the pipe clean, passed the pipe back to J and we all watched C for a moment while J began packing the pipe full for me. I watched C, sitting directly infront of him (I was on a couch that was leaned back, and C was in a wooden chair infront of me), and within about 7 second his eyes were pure black and his mouth was wide open. He began to reach underneath his legs and look around in awe/amazement it seemed but with little expression at the same time. G passed the Gandalf-looking pipe to me, I knew it was going to have some worthy effects from what I was told by T & G & J; Then seeing C - By this point C was trying to stand up, as I was holding the pipe about to hit it. C stood up fully, wobbling all around as he attempted to walk. It was at this point as he attempted to walk and fell out to door to the garage that I hit the pipe and ended up wussing out for a second. I took a bitch-hit at first, put the pipe down for a few seconds and held the bitch-hit in. It tasted.. Hard to describe... But within about three seconds the effects were pulsing all over my body. The body high, to best describe it, feels like trillions upon trillions of tiny needles poking into your skin from everywhere, and it only gets more and more intense. Then I decided to rip the pipe clean at that point around 5 seconds after the bitch-hit, I ripped it quickly as I was already feeling it immensely. After ripping it, G grabbed the pipe from me. I sat there, and looked around. The body high body more and more and more intense by the halves of seconds. My visual field, from how I vividly recall it looked like a desert plain - Very stretched out and long. I recall looking at J & G helping C who had fallen and was laying on the grass on the side of G's house, they looked like aliens of some sort. I looked at my friend T and his girlfriend A; T looked like his face was tomato-red, and in reality he was laughing but to me he was laughing in a fucked up way that seemed wickedly crazy. His girlfriend A looked like an elephant, with a trunk and I just don't even know how to explain it in words. It was all craziness; But awesome. I remember the beginning vividly, which was maybe about 10-30 seconds. For about six minutes I'm out, like when you sleep and wakeup but remember no dreams at all - It's as if you just laid down, shut your eyes, and then opened them. Just blackness - Nothing remembered. A blank spot, essentially - Or a "blackout". That's how I remember those 6 or so moments; But get this, while I was in this blank spot I was tripping hard. My eyes were pure black, of course, and I was simply sitting on the couch in that same spot, didn't move, did't say anything, nothing. Just looked around at the surroundings, and people. T & A detailedly filled me and C in later on the experience which is how I know that part. The most fucked part to me was when I was in this "blank space" for about six minutes, while yes wide awake with eyes-wide-open (yeah, tripping HARD), I at some point did do one thing - I got up from the couch I was sitting on and moved to the wooden chair C was originally sitting on before he first hit the pipe of Salvia extract. Keep in mind, I was basically dreaming with eyes open and fully awake, I didn't remember moving to this seat or any of those six moments. I came back after those six moments and was sitting in that chair, everything was a bit hazy but I remembered where I was and saw my friends and all, at this point C was back in the garage sitting on the couch where I was sitting. I realized this, and realized I was in the wooden seat he was sitting in but he was where I was and I also realized I didn't recall ever getting up and moving to sit there. Then it kinda smacked me that something didn't feel right, up until then I had no hallucinations - everything seemed clear just a bit off. My friends were talking to me, but their faces started to grow and stretch and warp and change into creatures, at the same time their tones would have a lot of echo/delay sounds to them and be laughing and looking menacingly at me and saying evil things they weren't saying in reality. After about forty seconds or so (from how it seemed to me time-wise atleast), this ended instantly and everything that was all floating around, stetching and warping and all in the garage just kinda "reversed" (if you will) back into-place. This experience was amazing, it took me a good damn minute to process what the fuck had just happened. C looked dazed and in a stated of confusion as well. I immediately lit a cigarette when I realized that I was back in reality and cigarettes exist and I can smoke them. That was my first time with the Sage Goddess, and I've met her about 12 times sense then. Unfortunately that dried up years ago and it's likely living where I live I'll never see her again until I move to "Utopia The Land Of All Legal Substances" one day (if such a place ever one-day exists - as it should). I do recommend a Salvia experience, it is very interesting. But keep the dose low, if you want to experiment with it without totally being warped into another 10 billion dimensions per second, start with the dried leaves instead of the extract, or a low concentration of the extract like 5x/10x. This is the best way for beginners, in my opinion, unless you think you got the balls to go 20x+ like I did. Keep in mind, set and setting, we should all know this. Respect the plant, do it somewhere you are comfortable. Maybe play some music you enjoy, lay down, close your eyes. Don't do it near somewhere you could potentially drown, or fall, or get hurt in potentially any way severely. Think about having a sober sitter with this one who is experienced and not a fucking tard. If you use a sitter, make DAMN WELL sure they're educated (as with anything) on the drug you're using or type of chemicals it's effects are produced by. https://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml Have them read that ^ Especially the effects section of the vault. It doesn't last but about 5-15 minutes when smoked. But you don't want no idiot thinking you're a vegetable or some retarded shit when you'll be perfectly fine in fifteen minutes, then they go call 911 or some bullshit because they're an idiot.
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Toadstool5
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Lying on the couch for ten minutes while you turn into a fractal pattern is not really fun in the same way as weed or shrooms but an interesting experience none the less
I love that experience 
Salvia rocks in larger concentrations but its something you have to learn to use and enjoy. After enough experence you dont drool, you can talk, walk, and toke while tripping on it, and you dont feel as disassociated.
I have seen first timers piss themselves, run around thinking they were flying, and one guy thought he was a zipper while sitting in an ab lounge exercise chair taking bong rips 
Salvia is great but the nasty, sweaty body high sucks so much. If it wasn't for the uncomfortable feeling after tripping i would smoke 80X all day every day.
Take breaks every 2 to 4 days if you do binge on concentrate. It can fuck with your head some
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Amanita86
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Toadstool5]
#21745546 - 05/31/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lying on the couch for ten minutes while you turn into a fractal pattern is not really fun in the same way as weed or shrooms but an interesting experience none the less
I love that experience  After enough experence you dont drool, you can talk, walk, and toke while tripping on it, and you dont feel dissociated
Bullshit..I dont know what youve been smoking but there is no walking and talking when you submit to salvia...it just doesnt work that way.. maybe on some headshop shit, I really dont know, but when you hit the source you're gone.. as in, not "here"..
And for me that tendency to have your mouth water has been a constant from day one..mushmouth astounded giggle.
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LocN9ne
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Amanita86]
#21746266 - 05/31/15 08:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah...there is definitely no walking or talking involved... when you start to come back to being a human lol, you'll try to talk to whoever is around like they were part of your trip but it will just be gibberish...lol Salvia is a trip that's for sure.
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: LocN9ne] 1
#21746901 - 06/01/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once you get used to having impaired vision from fractionals and wierd hallucinations its not that hard to function on salvia. For example, sometimes you cant even see the pipe but you can feel for it and blindy hit it. Say its hard to walk because the ground is moving and unstable, remember where you were sitting and slowly stand up with your knees slightly bent then shuffle very slowly. With talking to people as long as you focus on pronunciation its not impossible to small talk or describe the trip.
I have smoked my fair share of concentrates in the range of 80 to 120 times the potency of a wasson variety with a visual threshold dose of 2g of leaves, a 0.25g bowl of the extract is about 10 to 15 times the dose required to start hallucinating. Im venturing into growing it now and im even mailing a potted plant to a fellow shroomerite in about a week, so i know my salvia and I disagree with your bullshit
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Eagerhunter
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Toadstool5]
#21746944 - 06/01/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I find Salvia really interesting. I wouldn't compare it with any of the classic Psychedelics, as the effects are totally different. When smoked - which I've only done 2 or 3 times - the effects are sudden and intense. I don't get a lot out of the experience that it brings. However, when taken as a tincture (held in the mouth for 20 minutes), it comes on smoothly, and lasts for about an hour. The thing I really like about doing it that way is that I can be in the grip of multidimensional synesthesia, usually accompanied by a Beethoven symphony with an eye mask on, and if I really need to get up and walk around, go to the toilet or whatever, the effects fade a bit - and then, upon lying down and slipping the shades back on, it all comes back in a couple of minutes. Not something I do very often but - interesting.
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Amanita86
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Toadstool5]
#21747077 - 06/01/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Toadstool5 said: Once you get used to having impaired vision from fractionals and wierd hallucinations its not that hard to function on salvia. For example, sometimes you cant even see the pipe but you can feel for it and blindy hit it. Say its hard to walk because the ground is moving and unstable, remember where you were sitting and slowly stand up with your knees slightly bent then shuffle very slowly. With talking to people as long as you focus on pronunciation its not impossible to small talk or describe the trip.
I have smoked my fair share of concentrates in the range of 80 to 120 times the potency of a wasson variety with a visual threshold dose of 2g of leaves, a 0.25g bowl of the extract is about 10 to 15 times the dose required to start hallucinating. Im venturing into growing it now and im even mailing a potted plant to a fellow shroomerite in about a week, so i know my salvia and I disagree with your bullshit 
You keep talking like you dont leave your body. You have a very newspaper way of explaining this trip... Im of the mind to think you really have no real experience with this plant..
Are you even familiar with what you profess? Cuzz....
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Amanita86]
#21747092 - 06/01/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you can get me salvia PM me.
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Amanita86
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That's not how it works..
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Trichome_Delta9


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Amanita86]
#21747244 - 06/01/15 03:02 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know but that's how it should be.
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Achillita
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I've smoked threshold or slightly above threshold and been able to walk around. But no way in hell would I be able to walk around when gravity becomes oriented with my own head, and the world melts away.
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LiquidVisions
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Achillita]
#21748502 - 06/01/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Salvia is one of my favorites,at one point I did it everyday for 2 weeks and I got to build a relationship with this substance. My first trip involved my the room I was in fading completely away and underneath the reality I was in was a whole new world filled with orange beings grinding the gears to my life. They looked surprised that I could see them and pretty much forced me out the realm and I was just shaking. I think it is one of the most amazing things anyone can go through.
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Supachopped719
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Anyone ever done salvia with an maoi? Salvia-changa?
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Achillita
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Salvia is a terpenoid, like marijuana. So it isn't increased by maois. But it does have a reverse tolerance effect.
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spacemanspiff
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about as worth it as whip-its, poppers, et. al.
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