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Amanita86
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That's unfortunate. Maybe it's just not for you. I refer to my first experience with salvia as my baptism. Completely life changing. A 360 degree renewal. I could talk for days about the things I was shown and taught by very live spirits, eye to eye. I still can hardly believe what that little unassuming plant is here to do for us.. just speachless man..
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TrippieHunter
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Amanita86]
#21738088 - 05/29/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: That's unfortunate. Maybe it's just not for you. I refer to my first experience with salvia as my baptism. Completely life changing. A 360 degree renewal. I could talk for days about the things I was shown and taught by very live spirits, eye to eye. I still can hardly believe what that little unassuming plant is here to do for us.. just speachless man..
what did you start with?
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PinPornProducer
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Amanita86]
#21738091 - 05/29/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86
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Plain leaf, and then gradually stepped it up to extracts. I knew a guy who grew and made extracted doses for me so Im not real familiar with store bought salvia.
Plain leaf was great, real dream like. The extracts were a little more chaotic but you could "dismantle" reality more effectively. The plain leaf you could enter into different 'dimensions' but language etc. still held meaning. The extracts just threw all that out the window..
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Deviate
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Deviate said: Salvia on the other hand is completely unique, do you not see the value in that?
Just because something is unique doesn't give it value to me. I've done it quite a bit and never did I get any insight, revelations, out of body experiences, encounters with entities, no sacred geometry.
One time I had a decent experience with Salvia. Literally on one time out of many was the experience worth remembering. That experience was I listening to the Dark Start Europe 72 from the Grateful Dead. It literally took me back into the concert for a brief moment in time. But the strange part, I wasn't human. It was like I was observing the concert as if I was a fly that couldn't really comprehend music.
Compare that same 45 minutes of music experienced on DMT it was worlds apart. I vaporized 60mg of crystal during this time and it was orgasmic. I connected with everything and felt the fabric of the universe. The music was producing incredible auditory hallucinations. Like hearing every vibration through the music. I could feel, see, and almost taste everything. I had more than just 5 senses. DMT opens my completely senses, salvia disorients them.
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Deviate said: And what do you mean by "DMT has real meaning"?
What meaning one finds in anything is subjective. For me, meaning in a psychedelic experience is the value I can associate with the experience when re-assimilating it back into my daily life. Salvia had no assimilation and place in my life because it brought back nothing meaningful. All the psychedelics literally give me knowledge and feelings I didn't previously posses. Salvia literally was a completely neutral experience for me. Aside from that one time, nothing was even memorable. I experimented with plain leaf and various strength extracts and it all sucked.
I met this really weird dude one time that was doing salvia in the middle of the crowds at a music festival. We were all smoking weed and doing proper psychedelics for the occasion and here this dude is trying to tell me all about salvia asking me if I wanted to hit it. Lol, now that was a weird experience.
Ok fair enough, but I think you are unusual. Did you try hard to breakthrough?
On salvia I died and went to another dimension where I was merely the light of my soul's consciousness, I encountered enormous entities that did not resemble human beings or any known lifeform in any way, I saw the wheel or karma, understood that my entire life took place within my own consciousness just like a dream (which at the time I thought was some sort of government conspiracy, lol), experienced the stoppage of time and life in a 2-dimensional reality.
Now, LSD, DMT, even high doses of IM ketamine, have never done anything even remotely like that for me. Unfortunately at the time I was too young and not spiritual enough to understand or appreciate the experience very much and it was so intense, ridiculous and far and away beyond this world that I was afraid to explore it further. I would love to have some salvia now to experiment with, but alas it has been banned in my state.
I am trying to get someone to mail me some or find an off-shore distributor to get some to me. What an amazing little plant.
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mikeisapro
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daytripper05 said: Salvia sucks IMO. It's not even a true psychedelic in my book. DMT is 1000x better and actually has real meaning.
I disagree.
Salvia can be very meaningful, but yes it's not a traditional or pure psychedelic (it's also a dissociative, and is very potent).
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It's seems all I can find around my area shops is the 60x purple shit. I would like to give salvia a shot once too but can't justify buying the concentrate
for a one time use. And I don't want to try that potent of shit for my first time.
Actually, the purple sticky salvia is quite weak, despite their claims. I had 5x that was better than 20x purple sticky (commercial brands like Purple are exposed to hot conditions that diminish potency).
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Trichome_Delta9


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: mikeisapro]
#21739189 - 05/29/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ILLEGAL ALMOST EVERYWHERE NOW i never got to try it
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Achillita
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I know that feeling man...
On the brightside, In texas the plants themselves are legal, just not when the leaves are dried. I grow my own salvia.
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Achillita]
#21739411 - 05/30/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Waiiiiiit a second...... does this mean i can buy the plant at a flowe shop or something like that?
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Achillita
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You might be able to but since they are pretty rare it'd be hard to find. I know from experience you can order them online and get cuttings shipped to you.
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Achillita]
#21739427 - 05/30/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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want to point in me in the right direction to go?
what is a reasonable price for seeds and trimmings.
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Achillita
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I'll send you a
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Achillita]
#21739437 - 05/30/15 12:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good shit!
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LocN9ne
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I tried it a few times when I was in high school...10x I don't remember the brand...we'd load a bowl in the bong clear it with one hit and hold your hit as long as possible... shit was chaotic...we were under a bridge by the Mojave river that had railroad tracks that ran parallel to it, a train started to go by as I hit my bowl... the repetitive similar rail cars going by freaked me out, along with the repetitive sound I thought the world was skipping like a cd... lol, it's definitely different.
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: LocN9ne]
#21739735 - 05/30/15 03:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dumb question, was mushrooms worth doing? Enough said.
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Amanita86
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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: LocN9ne]
#21740062 - 05/30/15 07:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats weird you say that. Down at the river I frequent on the opposite side railroad tracks run along the bank.. everytime a train goes past I get the craziest salvia 'flashbacks'.. something about it going from left to right, and all the cars... weirdly salviaish.
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Yes salvia is completely worth doing but you cant use it the same way you use other drugs, do a lot of research before you try it yourself
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Shining Cosmos
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I have plain leaf divinorum straight from oaxaca. Very light. Never tripped too hard. Heard beautiful vocal melodies
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It's worth trying just for the hell of it but I really really don't enjoy it
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First time I tryed salvia I smoked 20X in my bong...it was awsome....like an hour after I smoked it again...ive smoked it probly a few hundred times over the years....its worth doing whenever possable....you come down so quick...even if shit goes wrong you get delivered back to reality instantaniously. You realy have to do a bunch of doses in a row to learn from the experiance the same way you might from other psycadelics IMO
.ive only successfully lifted off with leaves once. I had to smoke bowl after bowl furiously for like a minute or two.....was a waste of effort...extract is better and is definetly worth trying....just make sure you put your big boy pants on that day. Cuz it will take you so far out that you very well might hate the journey....the 2 -15 minutes youl be trippin will go by very quick and you will probly sweat alot....and alllllllllll sorts of psycotic shit will unfold....you might not even remember it once you "wake up". People who have bad experiances just underestimate the plant. There is nothing that compares.
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