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OfflineWhiteRabbit91
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Is Salvia worth doing?
    #21736340 - 05/29/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have done Shrooms,acid,weed,and coke. Is Salvia fun? Ive heard some people say its alot more intense than acid or shrooms if you have the higher strength stuff. Also just seeing videos of people collapsing and unable to communicate on it is a little unnerving..


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: WhiteRabbit91]
    #21736348 - 05/29/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you can get DMT salvia isn't worth it IMO


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: WhiteRabbit91]
    #21736358 - 05/29/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Short answer yes,with a if, long answer no with a but.
Lol yeah it's going to be extremely intense, your probably not going to understand what's going on. I only did it the one time and most people I know only did it once. I would recommend trying it but have a sitter man, for real.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21736396 - 05/29/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If I could get DMT I wouldn't be doing anything else lol how illegal is salvia now? It's been awhile since I tried it


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #21736424 - 05/29/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Its legal here in California but in alot of other states its illegal now I think


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: WhiteRabbit91]
    #21736451 - 05/29/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia sucks IMO. It's not even a true psychedelic in my book. DMT is 1000x better and actually has real meaning.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21736875 - 05/29/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I tried it and hated it. Gave it away to a friend who said the same thing. I thought it was psychedelic, the walls and carpet were breathing and I saw patterns, but there was also a dizzy, uptight, bad quality to it. Luckily it wears off fast.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21736891 - 05/29/15 01:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I personally like salvia. I haven't smoked it in almost half a year because of it being illegal in my state, and my plants are growing..

But I think it has plenty to teach, just in a completely different way than other psychedelics. It doesn't tell you about you, it won't make you think about the problems. It'll just show you the plain dark truth. It shows new perspectives that people never have even considered.

But it is much more chaotic and intense then psychedelics usually. I was hearing people all across the world, all their families, and their problems. I came back to me, and their voices faded away. I was sad because I thought that if I didn't hear them, their existence would cease. I then felt the emotions of a book. It was different then psychedelics, yes, but I personally think it's worth it to try it out.

A lot of people hate it, but I honestly enjoy it. There are a few others who enjoy it too. But if you're gonna do it, don't be an idiot and go with a 20x extract. Start low as with any psychedelics. Plain leaf is the most forgiving IME, 5x will get you to trip easier than plain though. How many people would still do psychedelics if the first time they did it, they downed 7 grams of mushies?


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: WhiteRabbit91]
    #21736892 - 05/29/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

YES


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Sham87]
    #21736969 - 05/29/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Worth doing once or twice to experience but def not something I'd keep doing. Short, fairly intense hit but leaves you with a headache. From my own personal experience anyway. I've gotten a ketamine/shroom-like trip off it. But for less than a minute. Much better alternatives out there.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: infected_2]
    #21736989 - 05/29/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Worth doing once or twice to experience but def not something I'd keep doing. Short, fairly intense hit but leaves you with a headache. From my own personal experience anyway. I've gotten a ketamine/shroom-like trip off it. But for less than a minute. Much better alternatives out there.



I've never gotten a headache from salvia :shrug: Actually when I get really bad headaches I'll smoke a threshold amount and my headache is gone instantly and stays gone.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Achillita]
    #21736993 - 05/29/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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A lot of people hate it, but I honestly enjoy it. There are a few others who enjoy it too. But if you're gonna do it, don't be an idiot and go with a 20x extract. Start low as with any psychedelics. Plain leaf is the most forgiving IME, 5x will get you to trip easier than plain though. How many people would still do psychedelics if the first time they did it, they downed 7 grams of mushies?




This very much
Its been said that many of the people who try DMT dont want to do it again and i can understand that if you were to dive into high dose without experience
With salvia being (semi)legal and high concentrates avaliable theres just a whole lot of people who dive into the deep end without even a general idea
Since salvia is way more disturbing than tryptamines in general, its no wonder that you end up with so many horror stories, but the low doses of 10x i tried so far were manageable

Is it worth doing? if you like psychedelics it most definately is, just because its legal and douchbags use it to play around doesnt make it any less of an entheogen


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: thoraxx]
    #21737029 - 05/29/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

It's seems all I can find around my area shops is the 60x purple shit. I would like to give salvia a shot once too but can't justify buying the concentrate

for a one time use. And I don't want to try that potent of shit for my first time.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21737064 - 05/29/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia is insane, if you can find the xxx concetrate (purple) you will be amazed


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: daytripper05]
    #21737459 - 05/29/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Salvia sucks IMO. It's not even a true psychedelic in my book. DMT is 1000x better and actually has real meaning.




I couldn't disagree more. Salvia is way more interesting than DMT, imo. DMT is just another classical psychedelic, yeah it is intense but it doesn't really do anything to you that a crazy dose of mushrooms can't do.

Salvia on the other hand is completely unique, do you not see the value in that? I agree it is not a psychedelic like DMT or mescaline, but that is what makes it so special. It is totally its own thing and it can take you places that you could never dream of reaching no matter how much DMT you smoke.

Oh and salvia is not recreational or euphoric like DMT, salvia is more for spiritual exploration than a good time. I know people will say DMT is spiritual and of course it totally is, but it is also ridiculouusly fun and euphoric. Salvia isn't.

And what do you mean by "DMT has real meaning"?


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Deviate]
    #21737674 - 05/29/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Salvia>DMT in high dosages. By far! Talking to a guy who only has been on about 20 salvia trips (some not that intense at all as I used a range from 1x, plain leaf, to 80x extract)

DMT over 100 times.

Salvia is by far more intense. I personally find it more "spiritual" than dmt for I've actually encountered spirit guides on salvia who said they are my "reality genies" and how everytime I have a thought, they try to synchronize that thought with my reality for building my character in this human life interaction thing.

Another where I was multi-dimensionally seeing the same scene occuring 5 different ways simultaneously, and in this state I coudl CHOOSE which possible reality I would go to.

Salvia is awesome I wish I had some it's illegal in my state and no one grows.

I would seriously love salvia :frown: its my favorite.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Angel_Above]
    #21737836 - 05/29/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Try it. Lying on the couch for ten minutes while you turn into a fractal pattern is not really fun in the same way as weed or shrooms but an interesting experience none the less.

Just have a sitter or do it in a non flammable area so you don't start a fire by dropping the cherry on the couch or something. You take it in two big hits held for about 30 seconds and once you are exhaling the second you will not be in any shape to deal with fire or fragile glassware.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: MasterPython]
    #21737844 - 05/29/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Use a torch lighter, the hotter you burn it the more potent the hit.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Achillita]
    #21737875 - 05/29/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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How many people would still do psychedelics if the first time they did it, they downed 7 grams of mushies?




Ironically, my first trip on any psychedelic was 7g of mushrooms. I was convinced they weren't giving me any effect and had to be weak, so we ate the entire half oz between 2 people. Wouldn't take that trip back for the world and was a great introduction into psychedelics.


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Re: Is Salvia worth doing? [Re: Deviate]
    #21737935 - 05/29/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Salvia on the other hand is completely unique, do you not see the value in that?




Just because something is unique doesn't give it value to me. I've done it quite a bit and never did I get any insight, revelations, out of body experiences, encounters with entities, no sacred geometry.

One time I had a decent experience with Salvia. Literally on one time out of many was the experience worth remembering. That experience was I listening to the Dark Start Europe 72 from the Grateful Dead. It literally took me back into the concert for a brief moment in time. But the strange part, I wasn't human. It was like I was observing the concert as if I was a fly that couldn't really comprehend music.

Compare that same 45 minutes of music experienced on DMT it was worlds apart. I vaporized 60mg of crystal during this time and it was orgasmic. I connected with everything and felt the fabric of the universe. The music was producing incredible auditory hallucinations. Like hearing every vibration through the music. I could feel, see, and almost taste everything. I had more than just 5 senses. DMT opens my completely senses, salvia disorients them.

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And what do you mean by "DMT has real meaning"?




What meaning one finds in anything is subjective. For me, meaning in a psychedelic experience is the value I can associate with the experience when re-assimilating it back into my daily life. Salvia had no assimilation and place in my life because it brought back nothing meaningful. All the psychedelics literally give me knowledge and feelings I didn't previously posses. Salvia literally was a completely neutral experience for me. Aside from that one time, nothing was even memorable. I experimented with plain leaf and various strength extracts and it all sucked.

I met this really weird dude one time that was doing salvia in the middle of the crowds at a music festival. We were all smoking weed and doing proper psychedelics for the occasion and here this dude is trying to tell me all about salvia asking me if I wanted to hit it. Lol, now that was a weird experience.


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