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Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist
    #21735860 - 05/29/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Pre-1967 research showed "beneficial change in many psychiatric disorders"

Psychedelic drugs such as LSD are much less harmful than claimed and should be legally reclassified to allow further research on their medical use, says James Rucker, a psychiatrist and honorary lecturer at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience, King’s College London.

These substances “were extensively used and researched in clinical psychiatry” before their prohibition in 1967 and many trials of these drugs in the 1950s and 1960s suggested “beneficial change in many psychiatric disorders.”

Nonetheless, in the UK, psychedelic drugs were legally classified as schedule 1 class A drugs; that is, as having “no accepted medical use and the greatest potential for harm, despite the research evidence to the contrary,” he writes.

Clinical efficacy shown in anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, addiction, and headaches

Rucker makes these points:

    Psychedelics remain more legally restricted than heroin and cocaine. “But no evidence indicates that psychedelic drugs are habit forming; little evidence indicates that they are harmful in controlled settings; and much historical evidence shows that they could have use in common psychiatric disorders.” In fact, recent studies indicate that psychedelics have “clinical efficacy in anxiety associated with advanced cancer, obsessive compulsive disorder, tobacco and alcohol addiction, and cluster headaches,” he writes.

    At present, larger clinical studies on psychedelics are made “almost impossible by the practical, financial and bureaucratic obstacles” imposed by their schedule 1 classification. Currently, only one manufacturer in the world produces psilocybin for trial purposes, he says, at a “prohibitive” cost of £100,000 for 1 g (50 doses).

    In the UK, to hold a schedule 1 drug, institutions require a license, which costs about £5,000, he adds. Only four hospitals currently hold such licenses, which come with regular police or home office inspections and onerous rules on storage and transport, so “clinical research using psychedelics costs 5–10 times that of research into less restricted (but more harmful) drugs such as heroin.” As a result, “almost all grant funders are uncomfortable funding research into psychedelics,” while prohibition as a condition of UN membership is “arguably causing more harm than it prevents.”

    Psychedelics are neither harmful nor addictive compared with other controlled substances. He calls on the UK Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs and the 2016 UN General Assembly Special Session on Drugs, “to recommend that psychedelics be reclassified as schedule 2 compounds to enable a comprehensive, evidence based assessment of their therapeutic potential.”




http://www.kurzweilai.net/psychedelic-drugs-should-be-legally-reclassified-says-psychiatrist


What do you think?  Will anything come to fruition?  It looks like the ball is rolling a little bit, but do any of you think anything will come of this?  Or is it a pipe dream?


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Re: Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21743949 - 05/31/15 06:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think that it is one more tug in a tug of war against irrational illegality. It might make a tiny difference but I don't think that one more quote in favor of reclassification will move mountains.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist [Re: secondorder]
    #21743972 - 05/31/15 06:32 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the last person who said the same and also suggested the uk legalised cannabis and ecstacy as they was no evidence to say they was any more harmful than sugar, caffiene, cigs or alcohol and suggested it was a farce that we sell asprin in shops for 20p a bottle that are far more dangerous and can be lethal  just simply got the sack by the government as they didnt like the results of the tests they asked him to carry out in the first place.

they listen to the info that matches what they want and use it to bolster their opinion the rest is shoved aside regardless of its value it becomes a poppycock


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Re: Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist [Re: mustangbob3]
    #21744696 - 05/31/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, that's a common enough situation mustang bob.

however, there's a very fascinating fact i have come to know, about the whole thing, life and the rest;

simply to regain all one's energy and so forth, by not giving it away to externals, is like, well it is hard to describe but it basically covers almost everything. . .

if no one has power over me then no one does. :smile:

like the whole money thing - who gives a care?  If you don't then that's basically complete freedom. . . and its value is really impossible to describe,

it takes a few transformations, to be sure, even from a good starting platform,

the kind of which most people wouldn't be able to imagine. . . but its benefits and rewards are totally and completely worth it, i do well-recommend this exploration of freedom


dear, kind, intuitive McKenna expressed it simply: no one is smarter than you, etc. etc.


this freedom is truly wonderful; so society and the rest - how to rejuvenate them, it seems very clear, to put all one's energy into creating the new, not on fighting the old (a  old socrates quote)


and it's truly boundless. . . so that's the best way to create new beauty in the world, and along-with, restoration of health, balance, harmony, and lushness in the eco-sphere, which is of course the one true wealth, which we all share in its profit and diminish.


legality of holy sacraments and healing substances, or even calling them consciousness-expanding psychadelics or what have you, can have a good effect; best to do so by simply saying 'we're here,' etc., creating new art, understanding, and beauty - by doing things like writing books like the Joyous Cosmology, etc. these which are tomes of beauty, which will last a while; this way of creating new beauty and art is best; and understanding, etc.  simply plant a new garden, if your ideas are strong, if your beauty is great, it will stay strong.

'if the vision was true and mighty, as I know it was, then it is true and mighty yet, for such things are of the spirit,' black elk


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Re: Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21744706 - 05/31/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shoulds are a meaningless mental exercise.


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Re: Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21744708 - 05/31/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

tho

i +1

to the op

yet, there's a striking thing. . .

trying to revamp an old system is less useful than simply living a healed life,

sharing and writing your best thoughts, etc. -

like the next wave - the next gen - even this wave and this gen -

is so far beyond anything previous


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Re: Psychedelic drugs should be legally reclassified, says psychiatrist [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #21744717 - 05/31/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

true true


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