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Nature Boy
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Pill-huasca - NEW plan
#21735676 - 05/29/15 05:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tonight's dosage should provide a strong experience, hopefully without too much mindfuckery and/or vomiting.
Pill #1 - Harmala alkaloids (from caapi) - 210mg followed 30 minutes later by Pill #2 - DMT freebase (from MHRB) - 100mg.
Will keep you informed in this thread if it goes down.
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Edited by Nature Boy (05/30/15 07:50 AM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21735716 - 05/29/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love when natureboy goes in on some pharma 
Are you using white dmt? Goo?
Ive always wondered what pharma was like. Does it come in waves? Does it feel like one of the classics?
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21736111 - 05/29/15 09:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: qweqaz]
#21736160 - 05/29/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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qweqaz said:

^^^^^^ me too....
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Waiting for your scientific views and reports Doc.
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Nature Boy
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21737155 - 05/29/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I love when natureboy goes in on some pharma 
Are you using white dmt? Goo?
Ive always wondered what pharma was like. Does it come in waves? Does it feel like one of the classics?
Hi, Bill:
Well, here's a trip report from 2012 on a somewhat lesser dose of DMT, but a bit more harmala that pretty much tells it like it is. This is a headspace I'd like to re-visit. Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that, as you know. You get what you get... 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16529469
I'm using white DMT extracted from MHRB. See pix:

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Edited by Nature Boy (05/29/15 02:53 PM)
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21737254 - 05/29/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's white? or mixed with the harmala?
are you saying it was an underdose or ineffective then?
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Icon]
#21737327 - 05/29/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Still haven't found DMT 
yet i see more and more post about it everyday....
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Nature Boy
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Icon]
#21737419 - 05/29/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Icon said: That's white? or mixed with the harmala?
are you saying it was an underdose or ineffective then?
The harmala alkaloids are tan, and in the capule to the left. The DMT is snowy white, and is in the capsule on the right. The 00 capsules are made of geletin, and are themselves tannish-brown (and pretty old), so the true color of the contents are difficult to discern.
Not sure what you are referring to about the "underdose." I've been experimenting with different ratios of harmala alkaloids to DMT as well as the timing of consumption, so there are many variables from attempt to attempt...of which there have been many in an effort to identify my personal "sweet spot." Tonight is just another in a long line of experiments.
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21737563 - 05/29/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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NB, I just read the trip report and noticed you took the pill-huasca all at once. Why are you not doing the same this time around?
I have this exact extract http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmine-Harmaline-FB-Peganum-Harmala-Syrian-Rue-Extract-Full-Spectrum-1-gram-/141602724007?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f82e18a7
does that look alright?
I also have some white dmt and some red clumpy DMT.
I want to do pill-huasca...will I still get good results if I dose that extract+some red dmt mixed with some white dmt?
or do you suggest pure white DMT everytime?
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21737981 - 05/29/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, Bill, if that material is as advertised, it will work just fine. White, or red and clumpy...if there's DMT in the product, you will get an effect.
I've varied my methodology a bit experimentally over the years and over multiple attempts. I am presently taking the harmala alkaloids first to insure first pass MAO inhibition is in full effect, but I didn't always. In traditional Ayahuasca, they are of course taken together, but as I've explained previously, in the jungle there's endless amounts of material, but few cooking resources (like multiple cook pots) so they do it all in one pot. We in America have no such constraint. Also because I am working with extracted materials, I can strive for a more or less repeatable "level" free from concerns over the variability of active ingredients in raw plant material.
Frankly, if you separate the the harmalas from the DMT in separate capsules, you have the option of taking one, then the other, or both together. You also have the option of increasing or decreasing the amount in one capsule or the other, depending on whether you have last minute reservations or if you're feeling particularly brave. It's a flexibility thing and ideal for experimenting.
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21738407 - 05/29/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Gotcha. Thanks a bunch. Cant wait to hear how it goes for you.
Have you ever smoked DMT while on pill-huasca? Whens the last time you smoked DMT, anyway?
Sorry, if my questions are getting annoying feel free to just ignore me. I love picking the minds of the vets.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21738452 - 05/29/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Gotcha. Thanks a bunch. Cant wait to hear how it goes for you.
Have you ever smoked DMT while on pill-huasca? Whens the last time you smoked DMT, anyway?
Sorry, if my questions are getting annoying feel free to just ignore me. I love picking the minds of the vets.
I imagine that it would be very difficult to do something as tricky as properly vaporizing DMT while in such a state. Smoking pre-prepared changa could be feasible, though.
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Starless]
#21738468 - 05/29/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Starless said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: Gotcha. Thanks a bunch. Cant wait to hear how it goes for you.
Have you ever smoked DMT while on pill-huasca? Whens the last time you smoked DMT, anyway?
Sorry, if my questions are getting annoying feel free to just ignore me. I love picking the minds of the vets.
I imagine that it would be very difficult to do something as tricky as properly vaporizing DMT while in such a state. Smoking pre-prepared changa could be feasible, though.
It's possible and has been done.
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Re: Pill-huasca - most likely tonight. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21738805 - 05/29/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said: Yeah, Bill, if that material is as advertised, it will work just fine. White, or red and clumpy...if there's DMT in the product, you will get an effect.
I've varied my methodology a bit experimentally over the years and over multiple attempts. I am presently taking the harmala alkaloids first to insure first pass MAO inhibition is in full effect, but I didn't always. In traditional Ayahuasca, they are of course taken together, but as I've explained previously, in the jungle there's endless amounts of material, but few cooking resources (like multiple cook pots) so they do it all in one pot. We in America have no such constraint. Also because I am working with extracted materials, I can strive for a more or less repeatable "level" free from concerns over the variability of active ingredients in raw plant material.
Frankly, if you separate the the harmalas from the DMT in separate capsules, you have the option of taking one, then the other, or both together. You also have the option of increasing or decreasing the amount in one capsule or the other, depending on whether you have last minute reservations or if you're feeling particularly brave. It's a flexibility thing and ideal for experimenting.
N.B.
I never thought about the limited kitchen in the jungle as a reason for doing it all in one big brew. Interesting.
I always thought they just didn't understand what was happening on a pharmacological level, if that's the right word.
I always explained it as, they would drink one cup and the dmt would basically be wasted while the maoinwas absorbed, then they waited a while and drank another cup. The second cups dmt would start working because of the first cup's maoi.
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Nature Boy
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So...I started to get a toothache yesterday evening. Had to take fairly substantial doses of Ibuprofen to get it to settle down, so I felt it imprudent to take any MAOI, so the pill-huasca was a no-go.
In 5 minutes (10:00am) I am going to drop 225ug of AL-LAD, which requires no MAOI. It's a beautiful breezy, sunny day here, so after a few more minutes of household chores, down it goes - then I'm going for a walk in a forested park near my home for the come-up.

I dedicate this trip to Ross Ulbricht and his eventual freedom. Will report back in a coupe of hours (If I can!).
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Re: Pill-huasca -- NEW plan [Re: Nature Boy]
#21740276 - 05/30/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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good vibes bro. sorry bout the tooth ache.
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Nature Boy
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Tripping balls right now. Very L - like. Don't want to violate any Shroomery policies so won't say anything beyond that right now.
Interested parties can see: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=21741095&page=0&vc=1#21741095
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Edited by Nature Boy (05/30/15 01:31 PM)
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