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'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK]
#21735580 - 05/29/15 04:40 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11636324/Hippie-crack-banned-ministers-outlaw-young-peoples-favourite-party-drug.html
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Laughing gas, or nitrous oxide, will be outlawed as a recreational drug under new legislation also targeting "legal highs"
 Nitrous oxide - often inhaled from party balloons - has potentially fatal side-effects
3:00AM BST 29 May 2015
Recreational use of laughing gas – dubbed “hippie crack” – will be banned alongside all legal highs under new legislation.
Inhaling nitrous oxide for its mind-bending effects will become a criminal offence carrying up to seven years’ imprisonment.
Traditionally associated with the labour ward and the dentist’s chair, its abuse as a party drug can lead to asphyxia, anaemia and even death.
Several Premier League footballers including Jack Grealish, the Aston Villa winger, have been shamed after photographs emerged showing them inhaling laughing gas on nights out.
It also emerged for the first time that the Government will ban so-called “poppers”, such as amyl nitrate, which are sold to clubbers as muscle relaxants which are said to enhance sexual experiences.
The Psychoactive Substances Bill will target the producers, suppliers, importers and dealers of legal highs – officially known as “new psychoactive substances” (NPS) – but will not criminalise users found with amounts intended for “personal use”.
 Nitrous oxide bulbs intended for commercial catering use are used as a recreational drug
Sale of legal highs by UK-based websites will be made illegal but the Home Office will be unable to stop users buying the drugs from overseas websites for delivery by post.
If packages containing the drugs are detected the customers could face importation charges, however, a Home Office spokesman said.
Ministers said the legislation was a significant step towards changing attitudes towards legal highs, which can lead to serious illness and even death.
Mike Penning, a Home Office minister, said: “Young people who take these substances are taking exceptional risks with their health and those who profit from their sale have a complete disregard for the potential consequences. That’s why we are targeting the suppliers.
“The public feel these substances are a legal thing to be doing, and it will become an illegal thing. We need to get on the front foot.
“The landmark bill will fundamentally change the way we tackle new psychoactive substances - and put an end to the game of cat and mouse in which new drugs appear on the market more quickly than Government can identify and ban them.”
Confirming that simple possession of the drugs will remain legal, the minister said: “It has to be proportionate, what we’re trying to do. And it has to be cost effective.”
The ban will apply to all substances which stimulate or depress the central nervous system.
 Legal highs are often labelled 'Not for human consumption' in a bid to evade the law
Legal substances such as alcohol, caffeine, tobacco, some foods and prescription medicines will technically be covered by the new law, but the Home Office will be able to issue specific opt-outs so they remain freely available.
The minister conceded, however, that some substances may initially be missed from the opt-out list and banned in error.
“There are obviously psychoactive substances in everyday use, like caffeine,” he said.
“That is why we will have powers to insert and remove substances from the list.
“Can I say definitively that every single, tiny product will be caught the first time? No, I can’t.”
Supplying nitrous oxide will be made illegal for consumption.
Ministers will work with industry to ensure legitimate uses – such as in whipped cream machines – remain unaffected.
The gas is widely available in silver mirrored, torpedo-shaped capsules, often marked as “whipped cream chargers”, and costs as little as £7.20 for 24 capsules, each of which provide several doses.
The gas is typically released to inflate a party balloon and then inhaled.
Home Office statistics published in 2013 showed more than 350,000 people aged 16 to 24 admitted using the gas in the previous 12 months, making it the second most popular drug among the age group after cannabis.
Updated figures published last year showed a further rise in popularity, with 7.6 per cent of those aged 16 to 24 admitting taken the drug in the last year, up from 6.1 pe rcent. In the wider 16 to 59 age group the figure was 2.3 per cent.
Villa manager Tim Sherwood said 19-year-old Grealish was “ashamed” after it emerged last month that he had inhaled nitrous oxide in a hotel room with a friend.
An expert review of legal highs by Home Office experts, published last September, warned that prohibiting the substances could lead users into hard drugs instead.
It said: “Health and social harms could increase if there is displacement to more harmful substances.”
 Legal highs are sometimes sold in 'head shops'
The move would also create an illegal market in legal highs, in the same way as there is for controlled drugs like heroin and cocaine, the document added.
“Prohibiting sales of NPS by offline retail outlets is likely to result in the market, particularly for popular NPS which are in demand, moving into criminal supply either through internet, international retailers or organised crime and street dealers,” it warned.
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XTCentral
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21735695 - 05/29/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is incredibly scary. The UK is going to shit with it's backwards laws, I'm pretty worried. Looks like right now is the time to stock up on everything.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: XTCentral]
#21735939 - 05/29/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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no time to read the article right now but that shit's fucked up!! Seriously one of my guilty pleasures is to conveniently and totally legally stop by the head shop on my way home to pick up a box of chargers. fucking fuck these people... I thought it was supposed to get better with younger people taking office over the years. I guess when 90% of the population gets passed their 30s they turn into complete assholes too.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: refried]
#21736006 - 05/29/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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was just chatting about this with my friend in london last night.
its a huge step backward
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: rxb]
#21736222 - 05/29/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, newly created drugs are dangerous! Solution? Legalize the original drugs the RC's are modeled after, as they are safer and more enjoyable anyway. Then people will have little desire to do weird off the wall shit with dangerous and/or unknown effects.
Why is it so evil to get high to these lawmakers anyway? How is it that alcohol is just accepted?
Where the fuck is the logic?
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Toe_Jam]
#21736285 - 05/29/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Motherfucking Conservative Tory government cuntwipes
"The ban will apply to all substances which stimulate or depress the central nervous system"
so basically they're saying NO FUN. and they've sucessfully banned all possible drugs which havn't even been invented yet.
congrats theresa may - a huge step backwards there im not sure our country has EVER had such a draconian view on drugs
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: visualise]
#21736297 - 05/29/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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because dmt = answers = end of governments = no more free ride
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: rxb]
#21736405 - 05/29/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So they ban simulating brain activity? Uk is going to get stupid and uninspired fast
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: visualise]
#21736583 - 05/29/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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visualise said: "The ban will apply to all substances which stimulate or depress the central nervous system"
so basically they're saying NO FUN.
QFT man. The UK is really showing itself as the draconian state that it is with this move. As much as I don't like RC's, I'm very, very upset by this.
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visualise said: congrats theresa may - a huge step backwards there im not sure our country has EVER had such a draconian view on drugs
I really try and refrain from name calling in this life, but that Theresa May is quite possibly the biggest cunt I have every heard of. This is the same cunt that was playing the public over the potential of GHCQ spying on us all when Snowden showed they'd been doing it all along anyway.
Now this. I hope that bitch gets what's coming to her for meddling in the private lives of the citizens of this country.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21736597 - 05/29/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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"Sale of legal highs by UK-based websites will be made illegal but the Home Office will be unable to stop users buying the drugs from overseas websites for delivery by post."
So if that's true (other sources seem to say importation will be illegal, though pretty much undetectable even if it is) they've basically achieved ummm...nothing other than cause tax paying businesses based in the UK to close down and people to lose their jobs. Post often arrives from mainland Europe in 3 - 5 days so ordering chems/plant based stuff from overseas needs little more than some forward planning.
I can see this legislation being so full of holes that it becomes an unworkable mess. By creating such a massive 'catch all' rule they'll then have to spend fuck loads of time going through everything that contains a psychoactive substance to decide if it can be sold or not.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Sorted]
#21737140 - 05/29/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is especially ironic considering the history of recreational nitrous
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: musiclover420]
#21737572 - 05/29/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is absolute horseshit. Nitrous is the second oldest anesthetic man really fucked around with. What a queer joke.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
#21740484 - 05/30/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow im kinda surprised by this, hope it doesnt happen in the US
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Connoisseur]
#21742350 - 05/30/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Connoisseur said: Wow im kinda surprised by this, hope it doesnt happen in the US
In the U.S., it's already illegal to inhale nitrous outside of a medical setting, and all chargers are sold exclusively for use in whipped cream makers. We don't have vendors out on the street selling nitrous balloons and our streets aren't littered with empty chargers. I think as long as things stay the way they are, with no high profile nitrous problems, we'll be alright.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: BigHeart]
#21742496 - 05/30/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I would hope, dont expect a ban any time soon honestly
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Connoisseur]
#21742579 - 05/30/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the current legal situation in New Zealand. All psychoactive substances have been banned, with the exception of alcohol, coffee etc. In order to obtain a license to produce or distribute a psychoactive substance, it must be proven to be safe via animal tests. However, it is not permissible to use results from animal tests, unless it is to show that the substance is harmful. In other words, it is not possible for any new (or old) psychoactives to be legally available here. Therefore, people are either continuing to grow their own plants/fungi and sell them, or ordering basically untested research chemicals over the Web and importing them. Naturally this has lead to a completely unregulated environment.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Eagerhunter]
#21743095 - 05/30/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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thats fucked
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Eagerhunter]
#21743693 - 05/31/15 03:22 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eagerhunter said: This is the current legal situation in New Zealand. All psychoactive substances have been banned, with the exception of alcohol, coffee etc. In order to obtain a license to produce or distribute a psychoactive substance, it must be proven to be safe via animal tests. However, it is not permissible to use results from animal tests, unless it is to show that the substance is harmful. In other words, it is not possible for any new (or old) psychoactives to be legally available here. Therefore, people are either continuing to grow their own plants/fungi and sell them, or ordering basically untested research chemicals over the Web and importing them. Naturally this has lead to a completely unregulated environment.
Gonna guess you guys saw a rise in deaths associated with drugs. Why can't the UK stop being such an inbred, retarded piece of shit backwards island of cunts and just take a second to look at the evidence?
Look at NZ and look at Portugal and just decide BASED ON ALL THE OTHER FUCKING COUNTRIES AND THE REAL WORLD EFFECTS what policies to enforce if using your rational brain is too fucking hard.
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: XTCentral]
#21743775 - 05/31/15 04:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inhaling nitrous oxide for its mind-bending effects will become a criminal offence carrying up to seven years’ imprisonment.
How about public flogging, branding, drawing and quartering?
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Re: 'Hippie crack' banned: ministers outlaw young people's favourite party drug [UK] [Re: Asante]
#21743781 - 05/31/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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Inhaling nitrous oxide for its mind-bending effects will become a criminal offence carrying up to seven years’ imprisonment.
How about public flogging, branding, drawing and quartering?
Conservatives. Not Even Once.
Apparently twice in a row
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