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DrMambo
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Hobozen]
#21737994 - 05/29/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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pish posh
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DrMambo
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: DrMambo]
#21738005 - 05/29/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I will concede that the effect kicks in all the same, capsule or not. For anything but kratom teas, kratom takes about half an hour to start and 60-120 minutes to take full effect.
Honestly, all the gelatin makes me feel kinda gross, and that's why I go no capsule. Also, the flavor of kratom is associated with the high in my mind, so I kind of enjoy it now.
I just hope it stays legal. A local headshop is loaded with kratom ish now, and the employees are super knowledgable, but it's making it go straight to legislation. They also sell VivaZen kratom shooters, and that shit is so flat compared to normal leaf.
I really hope the death of kratom legality isn't as close as I foresee, but I'll stack a few kilos incase.
Anyway, I had to talk shit, but just know I don't really mean it.
I will roll my eyes if we ever kratom together, though....
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: DrMambo]
#21738029 - 05/29/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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These are my shit, fuck gelatin
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Konyap

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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738046 - 05/29/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I read that somewhere these pimp brands were getting to the stores and they did an analysis on them and they where dry herbs sprayed with reresearch chemicals
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DrMambo
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738047 - 05/29/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I kind of want to make so kratom caps, but only to help keep air out and for ease of dosing. Loose powder and a spoon is fine taste wise, but not for dosing on the run.
I wonder how fast 7-hydroxy-mytragynine degrades in oxygen at room temp. I really fear legislation is super close.
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DrMambo
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Konyap]
#21738052 - 05/29/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Possible, but probably not likely.
A brand known as Krypton Kratom was found to be loaded with o-desmethyltramadol after multiple instances of seizures in users. In general, kratom alkaloids are probably strong and cheap enough as is to concentrate without the need for RCs.
Where there's a buck to be made, though...
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738064 - 05/29/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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>> I will roll my eyes if we ever kratom together, though....
I will probably end up tossing and washing out of peer pressure, especially if Bitter Cactus is involved.....
>> These are my shit, fuck gelatin
I ordered 2000 vegetarian caps and they sent gelatin instead still have around a 1000 to go
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Konyap

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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: DrMambo]
#21738066 - 05/29/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah it seemed very mild and there's no real way to wash it down anyway My eyesite on beer and head space is much different
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: DrMambo]
#21738075 - 05/29/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I have worried about that before but I trust all the sites I have ordered from.
Brand name kratom as always made me weary, they package it just like other legal highs half the time and even advertise it as one...
I am worried about a ban too, if it happens I will be ordering a kilo or two at least to bury somewhere for down the line.
We all knew it would come most likely, hopefully more people realize how useful it is before they try to ban it and we can do something about it.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Konyap

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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738409 - 05/29/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah i had some over 6 hours ago and i've felt fine
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Konyap]
#21738422 - 05/29/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kratom buzz is good for my slight depression and add and anxiety.
People should get prescribed this stuff I feel great.
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21738442 - 05/29/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Konyap]
#21738471 - 05/29/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21738472 - 05/29/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Bitter Cactus said: you probably need to check yourself into rehab
Says the drug addict troll
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Kinko]
#21738478 - 05/29/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do they sell kratom at smoke shops? I cant order shit online TT
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musiclover420
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: Kinko]
#21738536 - 05/29/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They do at some. They sell it around here in at least one or two headshops.
Way better deals online though.
15-20$ an oz is pretty regular in stores.
10-12$ is typical for some non fancy standard kratom off a good site. That is at the single ounce price too.
For the price of 2 or 3 oz's locally I could buy at least twice as much on the internet. Even getting 2 oz's each of 3 kinds which is how I typically like to order.
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738608 - 05/29/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bro look on kijiji or craigslist people usually sell it locally at least where i am from they do
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738671 - 05/29/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you dig around enough, you can pay $2.80/oz for the same quality that others sell for $10+/oz. Pretty sure even the official re-shippers of the oversea hub works out to ~$5/oz, or you could pay ~$3/oz if you're willing to wait a few weeks for delivery.
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: DustBunny]
#21738727 - 05/29/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well I was talking about non bulk prices, I doubt they are selling ounces for 3$ a piece individually.
I have yet to pick a favorite strain and order bulk of anything, but I should just find a good deal on a pound or two of a green vein sometime soon
-------------------- Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free
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Re: Kratom, Ativan, Weed, and Alcohol. [Re: musiclover420]
#21738754 - 05/29/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think of <$50 as bulk but that's just semantics. Price for 1oz is $6.50
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