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Supachopped719
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Psychonautica]
#21735154 - 05/29/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: Supa chopped and OP are puppet accounts to the same person.
Um no....
The mods can prove this.
I gave up on the hustler dream years ago. But while runningy company the number one thing I heard from people I hired was that it was a pyramid scheme, when asked to explain what a pyramid scheme was they would make the pyramid shape with their hands...
I have also told the OP that the shroomery is not the place for this. Believe me if I was selling this shit it wouldn't be online and I wouldn't use this much energy where there is zero money to be made.
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jellycrab
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Supachopped719]
#21735157 - 05/29/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow thanks for sharing
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moonrockmushy
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: burningstar06]
#21735184 - 05/29/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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OP I'd recommend you read this:
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/multilevel-marketing
especially at the end:
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Ask Questions Ask your sponsor and other distributors tough questions, and dig for details. Don’t consider it nosy or intrusive: you are on a mission to check out a potential business deal that will require your money and your time.
Their responses can help you detect false claims about the amount of money you may make and whether the business is a pyramid scheme. Here are some questions to ask before making any decisions:
How many people have you recruited? How long have you been in the business? How much time did you spend last year on the business? How much money did you make last year — that is, your income and bonuses, less your expenses? What were your expenses last year, including money you spent on training and buying products? What percentage of your sales were made to distributors? How much product did you sell to distributors? What are your annual sales of the product? What percentage of the money you’ve made — income and bonuses less your expenses — came from recruiting other distributors and selling them inventory or other items to get started? It’s important to get a complete picture of how the plan works: not just how much money distributors make, but also how much time and money they spend on the plan, how long it takes before they’re earning money, and how big a downline is needed to make money. One sign of a pyramid scheme is if distributors sell more product to other distributors than to the public — or if they make more money from recruiting than they do from selling.
The only real distinction between pyramid schemes and most MLM is the existence of a product. Like the site says, if a company can offer a competitive price on a product you think people want, then fine, but many many companies take advantage of people. You could call it "pyramid selling" but if the emphasis is on getting people signed up over actual selling it is closer to a pyramid scheme.
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Psychonautica
Cuddly Wuddly Fuccboi


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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Supachopped719]
#21735234 - 05/29/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The mods can't prove it, maybe you use a VPN.
Either way, you shouldn't ride ops non existent dick and support pyramid schemes. Especially where the Shroomery members are the members under her getting used.
No thanks. These are my friends. You're not going to fuck them over either.
Maybe they're Internet friends but they're better than strangers.
-------------------- The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one 3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother. Sheekle said: yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Supachopped719
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: moonrockmushy]
#21735260 - 05/29/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Psychonautica said: The mods can't prove it, maybe you use a VPN.
Either way, you shouldn't ride ops non existent dick and support pyramid schemes. Especially where the Shroomery members are the members under her getting used.
No thanks. These are my friends. You're not going to fuck them over either.
Maybe they're Internet friends but they're better than strangers.
Melt harderQuote:
moonrockmushy said: OP I'd recommend you read this:
https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/multilevel-marketing
especially at the end:
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Ask Questions Ask your sponsor and other distributors tough questions, and dig for details. Don’t consider it nosy or intrusive: you are on a mission to check out a potential business deal that will require your money and your time.
Their responses can help you detect false claims about the amount of money you may make and whether the business is a pyramid scheme. Here are some questions to ask before making any decisions:
How many people have you recruited? How long have you been in the business? How much time did you spend last year on the business? How much money did you make last year — that is, your income and bonuses, less your expenses? What were your expenses last year, including money you spent on training and buying products? What percentage of your sales were made to distributors? How much product did you sell to distributors? What are your annual sales of the product? What percentage of the money you’ve made — income and bonuses less your expenses — came from recruiting other distributors and selling them inventory or other items to get started? It’s important to get a complete picture of how the plan works: not just how much money distributors make, but also how much time and money they spend on the plan, how long it takes before they’re earning money, and how big a downline is needed to make money. One sign of a pyramid scheme is if distributors sell more product to other distributors than to the public — or if they make more money from recruiting than they do from selling.
The only real distinction between pyramid schemes and most MLM is the existence of a product. Like the site says, if a company can offer a competitive price on a product you think people want, then fine, but many many companies take advantage of people. You could call it "pyramid selling" but if the emphasis is on getting people signed up over actual selling it is closer to a pyramid scheme.
I didn't see that the OP needed to pay to work for this company, now that I've seen that I would recommend the OP to stay far away. You should never have to pay to get hired.
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Supachopped719] 1
#21735273 - 05/29/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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We need to put our foot down, blow the whistle and get the mods involved and get teach this guy a lesson.
OP, you WILL NOT take advantage of my friends here. Take your scheme elsewhere and leave the shroomery ALONE.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: burningstar06] 2
#21735293 - 05/29/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a friend who is caught up with this very similar company called It Works! (a name which, ironically, makes me think their products are bunk), she sells these things called "wraps". I'm not sure what they do, but she's really grinding with this company and claims to be turning profit. I don't know that any one has seen proof of money made, but we've all seen lots of evidence of her annoying people with unsolicited sales pitches and some bizarre, cult-like behavior.
Like you, she has loads of reasons that her company is not an MLM or pyramid scheme, and she can present lots of "studies" and testimonials that back up the notion that she's only selling the best products at the cheapest prices. All while recruiting teammates. The way she presents it makes me think that it's not easy to back out of once you get the ball rolling.
I suspect that there is money to be made from these marketing ploys, but the people making it aren't the ones who genuinely believe in the products and company, but rather are the people who have a predatory mindset, don't buy into the hype, and understand that the best way to get those checks is to take advantage of the gullible. Obviously you can't present yourself like that, but if you're good at manipulating others and have no moral issues doing so, then this could work for you. Good luck.
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chicksgrowtoo


Registered: 12/01/13
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Burke Dennings] 2
#21735302 - 05/29/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hahaha I mentioned this earlier. I blocked a friend of 15 years just so I didn't have to constantly hear about those stupid wraps meanwhile she's supposedly making $200 a day but asking me for gas money... what a friend huh?
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21735313 - 05/29/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Burke Dennings said: I have a friend who is caught up with this very similar company called It Works! (a name which, ironically, makes me think their products are bunk), she sells these things called "wraps". I'm not sure what they do, but she's really grinding with this company and claims to be turning profit. I don't know that any one has seen proof of money made, but we've all seen lots of evidence of her annoying people with unsolicited sales pitches and some bizarre, cult-like behavior.
Like you, she has loads of reasons that her company is not an MLM or pyramid scheme, and she can present lots of "studies" and testimonials that back up the notion that she's only selling the best products at the cheapest prices. All while recruiting teammates. The way she presents it makes me think that it's not easy to back out of once you get the ball rolling.
I suspect that there is money to be made from these marketing ploys, but the people making it aren't the ones who genuinely believe in the products and company, but rather are the people who have a predatory mindset, don't buy into the hype, and understand that the best way to get those checks is to take advantage of the gullible. Obviously you can't present yourself like that, but if you're good at manipulating others and have no moral issues doing so, then this could work for you. Good luck.
Some people trade their souls for these pyramid schemes. I suspect that's what OP did and still hasn't made a profit.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
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Burke Dennings
baby merchant

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Posts: 81,641
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: chicksgrowtoo] 1
#21735322 - 05/29/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have a hard time believing what she's saying, but I won't defriend her because I'm curious to see how it plays out. Does she get rich? Does she isolate everyone close to her by offering to sell us all fat burning pills? Or does she try to back out and get pulled off the street into a windowless van, never to be heard from again? I'm dying to know.
But yeah, your friend's story seems on par with my friend's, which is likely the average tale of these companies. I hope burningstar06 does well and becomes a ruthless multivitamin and dog food barroness, swimming in a Scrooge McDuck style pool of MLM accrued wealth, but I don't think the Pub is gonna make that happen for her.
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Burke Dennings
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Posts: 81,641
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21735324 - 05/29/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Shut up, Bitter Cactus.
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Bitter Cactus
reformed bad boy



Registered: 01/26/12
Posts: 11,773
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21735339 - 05/29/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Burke Dennings said: Shut up, Bitter Cactus.
That's not nice dude.
-------------------- Taking acid and thinking you are a better man is a lot different then actually becoming a better man.
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chicksgrowtoo


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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21735340 - 05/29/15 01:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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When that didn't pan out and she figured I wasn't buying what she was saying she started in with their new stretch mark cream... nice try bitch, I don't have stretch marks but you're now missing one good friend.
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Burke Dennings
baby merchant

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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
#21735353 - 05/29/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL
At least she's working the angles.
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DustBunny


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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: chicksgrowtoo] 4
#21735359 - 05/29/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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To the reporting user- "Shut up" is as much of a flame as "That's not nice, Bitter Cactus." From my understanding they don't quite warrant editing/Ban-O-Matic.
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Burke Dennings
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: DustBunny]
#21735366 - 05/29/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LOL, jeezus.
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Psychonautica
Cuddly Wuddly Fuccboi


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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21735373 - 05/29/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Someone reported Burke for saying shut up? Surely that's a joke..
-------------------- The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one 3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother. Sheekle said: yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Burke Dennings
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Psychonautica]
#21735377 - 05/29/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Welcome to The Pub.
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Psychonautica
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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Burke Dennings]
#21735380 - 05/29/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know I got a six day ban for calling someone an idiot...
-------------------- The chances of you even being born, Were forty million to one. There's two parts of the statistic And I want you to live through one 3/8/95 - 7/10/15 Rest In Paradise, Brother. Sheekle said: yeah, i said i was afraid of psychonautica

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Burke Dennings
baby merchant

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Re: Attention shroomerites I've discovered something amazing! PLS READ [Re: Psychonautica] 1
#21735399 - 05/29/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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