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DMT IS a big deal.. * 2
    #21732482 - 05/28/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I see so many people on here talk about DMT as if its just another psychedelic. I mean, to me, this stuff is HUGE. Its totally in a class of its own(along with IV 4-aco-dmt).

but yeah...im not saying people don't respect It or anything..i just feel like its a true miracle and its just looked at as something "oh I did dmt the other day..it was cool.."

when I do dmt..its the absolute most craziest thing I ever have done and I cant stop thinking about it for a few days after.

so ya...just saying :shrug:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21732545 - 05/28/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I like to lemon tek 5+ grams of cubes.  Kinda like DMT but not quite.

I don't think Ayahuasca is quite as big of a deal unless you're doing heroic doses.  The come up on smoked DMT is something else ain't it?


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21732564 - 05/28/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Think about poor old me who's never tried it but always wanted to.. Ive done shrooms and acid tonnes of times but never the DMT :frown:


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: microdotty]
    #21732685 - 05/28/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's pretty big too. I was watching the documentary Particle Fever last night which is about the LHC. It's not a very interesting doc, but there's a moment when 30 years of hard work and dedication is about to pay off with the first collision. The images and animation of the particles colliding during that moment and seeing the looks of excitement on everyone's face gave me a huge chill down my spine. It reminds me a lot of my breakthroughs and the utter brilliance of the moment and what we're approaching as a species.



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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Icon]
    #21733251 - 05/28/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've never done it but to me every psychedelic is a big deal. Especially my Mushroom and Salvia trips. In fact psychedelics are such a huge deal to me that I am studying ethnopharmacology


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21733987 - 05/28/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

DMT is great and all but I don't prefer it to LSD. For me psilocybin, LSD, and DMT all really end at the same paradox but they all different in feeling and how they take me there. What's great about DMT is that is allows me to push deeper into the cosmos so I get a lot more out of LSD. LSD experiences really can feel like prolonged DMT experiences. Not all DMT experiences result in contact with multidimensional entities and the sacred geometry as seen on LSD is damn near one and the same. I have also talked to entities on mushrooms before and had experiences that defied science all before doing DMT.

I don't put one above another though. They are all tools and I wouldn't have gotten to where I am without each of the messages these substances teach. There is something very harsh about tryptamines, and the fact LSD feel so loving is what makes me love it so much.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: daytripper05]
    #21733994 - 05/28/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I would love to get a chance to IV DMT, 4-aco-DMT, or pure 4-ho-DMT. All my friends think I am bat shit crazy that the only drugs I have the desire to inject are tryptamines (fuck yes I would IV LSD too). I just don't know how to use a needle and have no desire to do it without someone doing it for me in a 100% sterile fashion. I wouldn't it any other way.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: daytripper05]
    #21734031 - 05/28/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well, if you don't think it's a big deal, you probably didn't break through or go deep enough :shrug:


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: daytripper05]
    #21734217 - 05/28/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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DMT is great and all but I don't prefer it to LSD. For me psilocybin, LSD, and DMT all really end at the same paradox but they all different in feeling and how they take me there. What's great about DMT is that is allows me to push deeper into the cosmos so I get a lot more out of LSD. LSD experiences really can feel like prolonged DMT experiences. Not all DMT experiences result in contact with multidimensional entities and the sacred geometry as seen on LSD is damn near one and the same. I have also talked to entities on mushrooms before and had experiences that defied science all before doing DMT.

I don't put one above another though. They are all tools and I wouldn't have gotten to where I am without each of the messages these substances teach. There is something very harsh about tryptamines, and the fact LSD feel so loving is what makes me love it so much.





I feel like LSD is more about having fun and mushrooms is about the deep stuff.

LSD of course can get deep, but it can only go so deep. Mushrooms feel like an eternal well of deepness while LSD feels like it has a ceiling.


LSDs hallucinations feel as if they are from the visual cortex or something...while the mushrooms/DMTs hallucinations feel like its from the actual mind.

I love acid..but in order to "get off" on it, you need to smoke a lot of weed and take a massive dose.

With mushrooms...all you need is 5 dried grams of potent fruits on an empty stomach.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21734384 - 05/28/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Have u smoked  your extracted DMT yet Bill?


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21734403 - 05/28/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'm with Bill on this one. DMT is the next level. Acid lost its magic very quickly with me. Whereas mushrooms were always what I was looking for.

I couldn't do DMT more than once in a while without thinking I was abusing it. But to each their own :shrug:


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21734551 - 05/28/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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DMT is great and all but I don't prefer it to LSD. For me psilocybin, LSD, and DMT all really end at the same paradox but they all different in feeling and how they take me there. What's great about DMT is that is allows me to push deeper into the cosmos so I get a lot more out of LSD. LSD experiences really can feel like prolonged DMT experiences. Not all DMT experiences result in contact with multidimensional entities and the sacred geometry as seen on LSD is damn near one and the same. I have also talked to entities on mushrooms before and had experiences that defied science all before doing DMT.

I don't put one above another though. They are all tools and I wouldn't have gotten to where I am without each of the messages these substances teach. There is something very harsh about tryptamines, and the fact LSD feel so loving is what makes me love it so much.





I feel like LSD is more about having fun and mushrooms is about the deep stuff.

LSD of course can get deep, but it can only go so deep. Mushrooms feel like an eternal well of deepness while LSD feels like it has a ceiling.


LSDs hallucinations feel as if they are from the visual cortex or something...while the mushrooms/DMTs hallucinations feel like its from the actual mind.

I love acid..but in order to "get off" on it, you need to smoke a lot of weed and take a massive dose.

With mushrooms...all you need is 5 dried grams of potent fruits on an empty stomach.





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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: TrippieHunter]
    #21734774 - 05/28/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry if this is a little off topic guys. DMT is extremely intriguing to me, Ive had 5 mescaline trips, 4 shrooms trips and 2 acid trips. So far shrooms and mescaline are my favorite. When it comes to DMT I have this strange feeling like I should only experience it once in my life, when I die. Does anyone else get that feeling?


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: dirtybeats]
    #21734800 - 05/28/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I feel the opposite.

I feel that DMT should be explored, investigated, as it is so other-worldly that its alienness needs to be figured out.

But i get what you are saying. DMT is sacred and should be used as a sacred psychedelic of this world.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21734848 - 05/28/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe someday ill give it a try but for now shrooms still have a ton to teach me. Who knows they might guide me to continue my exploration with DMT in the future.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: dirtybeats]
    #21735019 - 05/28/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I definitely hold DMT above all other psychedelics. The people who brush it off as nothing serious are probably the ones who didnt smoke it correct. I havent had a single DMT experience that wasnt absolutely mind blowing and kept me thinking for days, weeks, or even months about it.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: ak47myth]
    #21735306 - 05/29/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've honestly had 1 DMT mindblowing experience, but not a breakthrough. Every other time either I couldn't smoke it all fast enough, or I guess I just didn't smoke enough or hold it in long enough. DMT smoke burnt my throat so bad the first time, I thought a scarab was growing inside my throat and I was choking to death.... good times :tongue:

I do think DMT is sacred and shouldn't be brushed off. I'll have to explore into it more once I get around to doing an extraction from it.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21735557 - 05/29/15 04:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Bill_Oreilly said:
I see so many people on here talk about DMT as if its just another psychedelic. I mean, to me, this stuff is HUGE. Its totally in a class of its own(along with IV 4-aco-dmt).

but yeah...im not saying people don't respect It or anything..i just feel like its a true miracle and its just looked at as something "oh I did dmt the other day..it was cool.."

when I do dmt..its the absolute most craziest thing I ever have done and I cant stop thinking about it for a few days after.

so ya...just saying :shrug:




I haven't tried DMT yet. Is it even crazier than salvia?


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #21735564 - 05/29/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I haven't tried DMT yet. Is it even crazier than salvia?




No..it isn't crazier.  Nothing could be crazier than salvia.  It is just as intense, though.

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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #21735636 - 05/29/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i understand how can psychedelics play into our head but dmt just makes no sense, in my book dmt is one of the big mysteries of life along with our birth , and our being in the moment .

Dmt and salvia is just completely different , dmt is just so complex and realistic while salvia is more mindfucking feels like you're retarded . Dmt is definitly one of a kind . Far from other psychedelic experiences imo


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #21735689 - 05/29/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Have u smoked  your extracted DMT yet Bill?





I have not. I actually havent smoked dmt in 1 and a half years. I kust havent had the balls..its when im deep into the psychs is when ill smoke the stuff..like if im trippimg a couple times a month+

But since i have only been tripping rarely i just cant muster up the courage to do it. I feel it coming soon,though. I actually have been thinking about doing it lately which i havent even gotten to that point for a long time. In the next few months hopefully ill light it up

Ive heard my dmt is quite nice, though which is a good sign.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: Achillita]
    #21735725 - 05/29/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Achillita said:
I've honestly had 1 DMT mindblowing experience, but not a breakthrough. Every other time either I couldn't smoke it all fast enough, or I guess I just didn't smoke enough or hold it in long enough. DMT smoke burnt my throat so bad the first time, I thought a scarab was growing inside my throat and I was choking to death.... good times :tongue:

I do think DMT is sacred and shouldn't be brushed off. I'll have to explore into it more once I get around to doing an extraction from it.




You probably really smoked it instead of vaping it. Properly vaped DMT is very easy on the lungs. Don't burn the stuff, that's very disrespectful :lol:


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21735741 - 05/29/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've had a gram of vacuum sealed pure white dmt that I haven't even took out of an airtight container in 6 months because of the respect I have for it. I don't want to do it for the wrong reasons so I've been holding off until I think I'm ready and not doing it just to see what it's like.

Just in case people look at my sig and get confused, I HAVE done dmt before, just unsuccessfully and didn't break through, but it gave me just enough to know that I better show this drug some respect and not just do it because of how awesome people say it is.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye] * 1
    #21735812 - 05/29/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Well, if you don't think it's a big deal, you probably didn't break through or go deep enough :shrug:




That's definitely not the case. I had real near death experience in 2006 from a triple skull fracture. Literally left my body, talked to the female version of "god", etc... All the psychedelics are relatively tame compared to my near death experience yet all very similar. I definitely blast off with DMT and love the molecule, but it's super short. Compared to the week I spent nearly dead from a skull fracture, DMT is a walk in the park.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: daytripper05] * 1
    #21735823 - 05/29/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Damn that sounds intense... Would love to hear more about what you went through. Have you ever written anything down about it?

I think such a story would qualify as the exception to the rule though. I mean, very few people go through anything like that.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye] * 1
    #21735844 - 05/29/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Since that experience, I go to the same place with all psychedelics. Like there is very very little difference between them for me. Just more like subtleties that come from the unique personalities from each molecule.

What's really interesting though is I go A LOT deeper since I have been experimenting with DMT more liberally. I can come to same conclusions as I normally would except it happens much more quickly. Like what use to happen in the peak I was able to make sense of hour or days after the trip. But now I am able to dive real deep at command pretty much at anytime in the experience, peaking or not. And I seem to be able to make sense of it all much quicker too.

The experience goes hand and hand with death in more than just one way. Since I have felt and seen death with my eyes and was ready to die, I literally have no fear of it. If death was a bottomless black pit you must jump into before you die, then I am like the base jumper that willingly tries see if I can get a rise out the most extremely and dangerous experiences. The more times I jump into the abyss, the more I find it home. I love the infinity and nothingness. When everything is infinite, possibilities are absolutely endless. DMT is all of these feelings combined really but it's not a unique feeling exclusive to vaporizing DMT crystal.


Here are a couple recent accounts of my story. I need to write it all down some day because there is a lot more to it.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21726538#21726538
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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: daytripper05]
    #21735979 - 05/29/15 08:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Holy shit man, you must be with us still for a very good reason! I bet you could write a very solid book about the experiences you have endured. Although I can imagine that it is next to impossible to express.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21735984 - 05/29/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is what I love about the shroomery though, there are literally people here from all walks of life. It doesn't matter how uncommon, there is always someone here who can speak from experience on the subject. Remarkable.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21735997 - 05/29/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: Agreed, and why I still visit this forum in 2015 when I signed up way back in 2006.

So many cool people to learn from on here. The Zombi3 story has hit home to me. Really been praying for that dude. Man would I have loved to be a "fly on the wall" within his consciousness during that psychedelic experience.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: daytripper05]
    #21736014 - 05/29/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

How cool would it be if we could :shocked:

Now we have to rely on these lame things we know as words to convey something that goes so far beyond that... How do you even begin?


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21736073 - 05/29/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I extract and smoke DMT quite regulary. Sometimes I do it straight an entire day once per hour and document and note what I have experienced and sometimes I just keep smoking it just for having another experience than the physical reality.
Especially interresting when having "endless" supplies of the stuff is that you can experiment alot with the threshhold dosage and slightly lower to observe what is going on when it builds up.
Playing with 15mg dosages I can observe this world and the other like an overlay.

Optimal breakthrough dosage for me is 25mg where I enter the other dimension correctly and able to walk around in there. Ive taken 50-70mg dosage and those are awesome but totally bizarre and feels like being shot through to gods grandparents neighbours house.
To be honest even at 15mg dosages I am still afraid of the stuff, its so alient and you feel so naked mentally.


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: microdotty]
    #21736164 - 05/29/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Think about poor old me who's never tried it but always wanted to.. Ive done shrooms and acid tonnes of times but never the DMT :frown:





....I know right?...I had a couple puffs back in the day but have never had my own stash and been able to sit down and really do it proper :-)! I hope you find some soon bro! me too! I might smoke some Bufo Alvarius in a couple weeks!


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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: qweqaz]
    #21736168 - 05/29/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I extract and smoke DMT quite regulary. Sometimes I do it straight an entire day once per hour and document and note what I have experienced and sometimes I just keep smoking it just for having another experience than the physical reality.
Especially interresting when having "endless" supplies of the stuff is that you can experiment alot with the threshhold dosage and slightly lower to observe what is going on when it builds up.
Playing with 15mg dosages I can observe this world and the other like an overlay.

Optimal breakthrough dosage for me is 25mg where I enter the other dimension correctly and able to walk around in there. Ive taken 50-70mg dosage and those are awesome but totally bizarre and feels like being shot through to gods grandparents neighbours house.
To be honest even at 15mg dosages I am still afraid of the stuff, its so alient and you feel so naked mentally.




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Re: DMT IS a big deal.. [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21736806 - 05/29/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I've honestly had 1 DMT mindblowing experience, but not a breakthrough. Every other time either I couldn't smoke it all fast enough, or I guess I just didn't smoke enough or hold it in long enough. DMT smoke burnt my throat so bad the first time, I thought a scarab was growing inside my throat and I was choking to death.... good times :tongue:

I do think DMT is sacred and shouldn't be brushed off. I'll have to explore into it more once I get around to doing an extraction from it.




You probably really smoked it instead of vaping it. Properly vaped DMT is very easy on the lungs. Don't burn the stuff, that's very disrespectful :lol:



I just think it was the heat from my lighter. I used a "machine" to vape it. Only once did I ever taste that super terrible burnt DMT taste. Otherwise it tasted kinda pleasant and flowery. I've made a straw bong setup thing with it, and it was much easier to smoke. But it was still pretty harsh. It was harsh on me no matter how far the lighter was a way from the metal mesh.


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