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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #21744188 - 05/31/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
    #21744699 - 05/31/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I could see DMT being useful for visualizing higher dimensional space for string theorist or something. I notice being able to do things easier without over thinking them after a DMT trip too.


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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21745323 - 05/31/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I could see DMT being useful for visualizing higher dimensional space for string theorist or something. I notice being able to do things easier without over thinking them after a DMT trip too.




This is one of the things I've been trying to use LSD for. Conscious DMT integration is far beyond my capabilities, but it's something I aspire to.


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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
    #21745523 - 05/31/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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This is one of the things I've been trying to use LSD for. Conscious DMT integration is far beyond my capabilities, but it's something I aspire to.




Try Ayahuasca, smoked DMT is too intense and quick, Ayahuasca you can get more out of.


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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
    #21745611 - 05/31/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I suspect these psychedelics have their biggest effect on neuroplasticity. The US government experimented with LSD/other psychedelics for purposes of brainwashing, which is simply the rewiring of an individual's brain as I understand it. There is an author whom I used to read a lot of named Robert Anton Wilson. He seems like an intelligent fellow and alluded the possibility of rapid brainchange by way of psychedelics. I can't remember the name of the book he talked about this in. Regardless, empirial observation tends to confirm this line of thinking. I think these substances bring the brain back into a very vulnerable state, which I'll call the introduction of "imprint vulnerability". Furthur research into this area would be extremely interesting.

Low dose psychdelics are very interesting, much more so than a high dose of, say, 7 g of psilocybin. I expect these substances to play an essential role in the evolution of the human nervous system, if used correctly.

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All you really need is the ability to do full bore quantum computing, and my experiments so far indicate that it may be possible to directly harness timeline splitting and recombination to accomplish this.  The human interface to such techniques under the influence of psychedelics is directly demonstrable (well, I've done it anyway, and I'm doing further research along this line as well as on documenting the physical "impossibilities" that sometimes result from such access) and if the human brain can induce these effects then in theory it should be possible to construct a machine that does it.  It might even be something like what you suggest, in that it's just a single component or part - but when it manifests (or instantiates) itself across multiple timelines it gains the ability to perform quantum computation of essentially unlimited complexity, more or less for free (the computational energy burden - and there always is one - is borne by the alternate realities).




Sweet jesus, I thought I was the only one who experienced "cutting/pasting". Do you feel like you have control of this process?


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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: shr]
    #21745842 - 05/31/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:waitwhat:  Somebody actually responded to that?...

Control of process, yeah somewhat.  Enough to induce it on demand pretty much and eventually reassure myself I wasn't just going crazy.  Not enough to ensure that it doesn't feel somewhat hazardous, 'cause you really don't know in advance what will happen.  But certainly something major occurs, and with physical evidence left behind it's open to study.

Regarding neuroplasticity, yeah, pretty much all of that - it's similar to what happens when you edit memories during recall and restore them in a slightly different form, except instead of being memories they're the operating protocols or methods for the brain.  Why psychedelics have proved useful in addressing psychological issues, depending I suppose on whether you interpret the source of problems as operational errors or something more mysterious.

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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #21746912 - 06/01/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Read this if you want your mind blown

http://leftinthedark.org.uk/sites/default/files/Left%20in%20the%20Dark%20free%20edition.pdf




Pineal gland as the source of endogenous DMT?  An old theory with no substantive demonstrated validity in humans, but it's hard to test as it requires extracting pineal tissue from living humans.  The references are pretty iffy in most places - it'd be helpful if you could summarize what exactly they're trying to say there though, as skimming it it doesn't look much like worth reading to me. :shrug:

Brain enhancement experienced when the dominant hemisphere shuts off for a bit?  This is ancient knowledge, and a commonplace with psychedelic usage. :thumbup:


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