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Starless
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Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement
#21731343 - 05/28/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My experiences with psychoactive substances have me interested in the potential of integrating altered states of consciousness to enhance abstract thinking skills. I personally have already learned quite a bit from drugs like psilocybin and LSD, even cannabis, and I'm only a novice psychonaut.
Many fields that will likely become very important in the near future, like advanced computational logic and theoretical physics, involve very complex and abstract concepts which the human mind naturally has difficulty understanding.
Perhaps augmenting our neurochemistry can help us grasp more of the big picture. Integrating drug experiences to begin with can be quite difficult, but I'm convinced this is worth exploring. What do you guys think?
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
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Buster_Brown
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21731350 - 05/28/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Enhancement as opposed to psychosis may depend on dosage; Don't you have qualms about your planned Super Burner?
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Starless
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Buster_Brown]
#21731382 - 05/28/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Buster_Brown said: Enhancement as opposed to psychosis may depend on dosage; Don't you have qualms about your planned Super Burner?
That didn't end up happening, but I may try it when I have some more experience under my belt. Dosage and set and setting should always be controlled carefully when dealing with any drug, especially powerful, mind altering ones. Significant cognitive enhancement would likely be impossible without responsible use.
Currently LSD seems to be the most promising substance I've used for this purpose, but there are many things I have yet to try. Other methods of altering consciousness such as meditation, sensory deprivation, and lucid dreaming could likely also prove useful.
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
Edited by Starless (05/28/15 07:00 AM)
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Starless
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21731459 - 05/28/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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One thing in particular that I've been studying using this is quantum algebra (a form of math that breaks anything down to X=0, where X is the square root of the power of Variable1 through VariableY, where Y is the total number of distinct states of hypergeometrical resonance that a quanta can exhibit). If decimal has a base of 10 and hexadecimal has a base of 16, then this system would have a base of 0. These calculations are particularly difficult because they cannot be broken down and solved step by step using order of operations and boolean algebra, they must be solved all at once. This is of course far beyond the abilities of modern mathematics, but if technology where developed utilizing it, it would be functionally identical to magic.
In order to do this you would have to first invent a high level coding language immensely more complicated than any human language. Then you would have to make an extremely advanced supercomputer utilizing superpositional circuitry and write an operating system for it that solves quantum logic within this super high level language in one maximally efficient step. This would mean that the computer could only work if it was composed of one component. If built, this machine could do literally anything that is physically possible instantly with zero energy. This may not even be possible to make, but I find it very interesting.
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
Edited by Starless (05/28/15 09:28 AM)
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Sammysong
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21731885 - 05/28/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are you also interested in medicinal herbs and/or nootropics for cognitive enhancement? Or only in the microdosing of LSD, cannabis or shrooms?
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21732461 - 05/28/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Starless said: My experiences with psychoactive substances have me interested in the potential of integrating altered states of consciousness to enhance abstract thinking skills. I personally have already learned quite a bit from drugs like psilocybin and LSD, even cannabis, and I'm only a novice psychonaut.
Many fields that will likely become very important in the near future, like advanced computational logic and theoretical physics, involve very complex and abstract concepts which the human mind naturally has difficulty understanding.
Perhaps augmenting our neurochemistry can help us grasp more of the big picture. Integrating drug experiences to begin with can be quite difficult, but I'm convinced this is worth exploring. What do you guys think?
Yes. I've already used them for a lot of this, FWIW.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21732692 - 05/28/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Starless said: One thing in particular that I've been studying using this is quantum algebra (a form of math that breaks anything down to X=0, where X is the square root of the power of Variable1 through VariableY, where Y is the total number of distinct states of hypergeometrical resonance that a quanta can exhibit). If decimal has a base of 10 and hexadecimal has a base of 16, then this system would have a base of 0. These calculations are particularly difficult because they cannot be broken down and solved step by step using order of operations and boolean algebra, they must be solved all at once. This is of course far beyond the abilities of modern mathematics, but if technology where developed utilizing it, it would be functionally identical to magic.
In order to do this you would have to first invent a high level coding language immensely more complicated than any human language. Then you would have to make an extremely advanced supercomputer utilizing superpositional circuitry and write an operating system for it that solves quantum logic within this super high level language in one maximally efficient step. This would mean that the computer could only work if it was composed of one component. If built, this machine could do literally anything that is physically possible instantly with zero energy. This may not even be possible to make, but I find it very interesting.
All you really need is the ability to do full bore quantum computing, and my experiments so far indicate that it may be possible to directly harness timeline splitting and recombination to accomplish this. The human interface to such techniques under the influence of psychedelics is directly demonstrable (well, I've done it anyway, and I'm doing further research along this line as well as on documenting the physical "impossibilities" that sometimes result from such access) and if the human brain can induce these effects then in theory it should be possible to construct a machine that does it. It might even be something like what you suggest, in that it's just a single component or part - but when it manifests (or instantiates) itself across multiple timelines it gains the ability to perform quantum computation of essentially unlimited complexity, more or less for free (the computational energy burden - and there always is one - is borne by the alternate realities).
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Starless
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Sammysong]
#21733630 - 05/28/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sammysong said: Are you also interested in medicinal herbs and/or nootropics for cognitive enhancement? Or only in the microdosing of LSD, cannabis or shrooms?
I have yet to experiment with nootropics, but they're definitely something to look into. Threshold dosing of LSD has been one of the most productive and easy to integrate of the things I've tried. A fully integrated less intense experience seems to be more effective than a partially integrated more intense experience imo. Higher doses are still necessary for getting a clearer picture of the more subtle intricacies of a drug's headspace, though.
Psychedelic drugs seem to temporarily weaken the partition between the conscious and subconscious mind. One thing that a friend and I have noticed is possible using this is to program neural shortcuts, like memorizing the solution to a puzzle or equation, but on a greater scale. Even simply practicing or analyzing something while in an altered headspace seems to work well. If implemented properly, this effect appears to work almost like an artificial neuroplasticity.
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21733712 - 05/28/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's genuine neuroplasticity, check out the research.
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MajickMuffin
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21733719 - 05/28/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Starless said: My experiences with psychoactive substances have me interested in the potential of integrating altered states of consciousness to enhance abstract thinking skills. I personally have already learned quite a bit from drugs like psilocybin and LSD, even cannabis, and I'm only a novice psychonaut.
Many fields that will likely become very important in the near future, like advanced computational logic and theoretical physics, involve very complex and abstract concepts which the human mind naturally has difficulty understanding.
Perhaps augmenting our neurochemistry can help us grasp more of the big picture. Integrating drug experiences to begin with can be quite difficult, but I'm convinced this is worth exploring. What do you guys think?
Nig why u think we be all up on them shroms for.
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TrippieHunter
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: MajickMuffin]
#21733787 - 05/28/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Starless said: My experiences with psychoactive substances have me interested in the potential of integrating altered states of consciousness to enhance abstract thinking skills. I personally have already learned quite a bit from drugs like psilocybin and LSD, even cannabis, and I'm only a novice psychonaut.
Many fields that will likely become very important in the near future, like advanced computational logic and theoretical physics, involve very complex and abstract concepts which the human mind naturally has difficulty understanding.
Perhaps augmenting our neurochemistry can help us grasp more of the big picture. Integrating drug experiences to begin with can be quite difficult, but I'm convinced this is worth exploring. What do you guys think?
Nig why u think we be all up on them shroms for.
After reading all that while smoking a joint I needed this last post!
-------------------- Just remember keep the camera rolling and FILM THE POLICE!!! CLICK ME WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON? CLICK ME TOO! Let it go and you will trip into wonderland!
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: TrippieHunter]
#21734889 - 05/28/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Starless said: My experiences with psychoactive substances have me interested in the potential of integrating altered states of consciousness to enhance abstract thinking skills. I personally have already learned quite a bit from drugs like psilocybin and LSD, even cannabis, and I'm only a novice psychonaut.
Many fields that will likely become very important in the near future, like advanced computational logic and theoretical physics, involve very complex and abstract concepts which the human mind naturally has difficulty understanding.
Perhaps augmenting our neurochemistry can help us grasp more of the big picture. Integrating drug experiences to begin with can be quite difficult, but I'm convinced this is worth exploring. What do you guys think?
Nig why u think we be all up on them shroms for.
After reading all that while smoking a joint I needed this last post!

Im dying
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: dirtybeats]
#21735103 - 05/29/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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mandrin13
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: saenchai]
#21737900 - 05/29/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather.
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Starless
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: mandrin13]
#21738031 - 05/29/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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My last LSD experience was with two strong tabs, and I felt like I was on the precipice of something amazing. It was quite fascinating and rewarding, but not quite as intense as I had hoped for, so a friend and I are trying again tonight with three tabs of the same blotter. Hopefully my last experience will be enough practice to integrate the trip more effectively this time. I learned a lot from my first threshold dose about a year ago, so I'm quite excited about the potential of a properly integrated larger dose. I'll get back to you all soon with the results. Wish me luck!
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21738391 - 05/29/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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How much have you tripped? It makes a HUGE difference whenever you're talking about "integrating".
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Starless
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21738424 - 05/29/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: How much have you tripped? It makes a HUGE difference whenever you're talking about "integrating". 
So far, I've taken mushrooms 6 times, LSD twice, DMT once, MDMA once, and cannabis in almost all forms frequently. I've also hippy flipped once, and plan on trying peruvian torch cacti in the near future. Not very impressive compared to some people on this forum, but I think it's a great start, and I've already learned a lot.
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21738516 - 05/29/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oh, OK, so you're mostly speaking theoretically. This topic has been a research interest of mine for many years now, along with tripping (of course).
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Starless
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21743516 - 05/31/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow, what a crazy night. I definitely learned a lot about LSD, my own brain, and the stupidity of humanity last night. Here's the report for those interested:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21743503
-------------------- Think, it ain't illegal yet. - George Clinton Substances I have allegedly taken: Cannabis (bud, edibles, and concentrates), Mushrooms (P. Cubensis), LSD, ETH-LAD, ALD-52, DMT, MDMA, Mescaline (Peruvian Torch), 25I-NBOMe, Salvia Divinorum (10x), Syrian Rue, Amanita Muscaria (10x), Cocaine, Nightshade (Henbane). All posts are hypothetical or entirely fictional.
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Re: Psychedelics as Tools for Cognitive Enhancement [Re: Starless]
#21744080 - 05/31/15 07:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Try a few days of micro-dosing. If you like the results, keep on going.
A good micro-dose for me when dealing with mushrooms is between .15g-.25g. I've never experimented with LSD for micros though...
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