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Re: A New Way To Sterilize Jars Without A P.C [Re: thewanderer25]
#21732990 - 05/28/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Grains can go past 100C with moisture in them in a microwave, without them being in a microwave pressure cooker or sealed jar.
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thewanderer25 said:PC is necessary with grains and wondered if thier is a cheaper way to go about it.
Some boil for 8 hours. I have done fractional sterilization with a lot of success, most of the instructions for doing it are fundamentally wrong, and instruct you to do what the inventor/discoverer of it specifically warned against doing. I am currently testing out grains with fungicide without using a PC.
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Re: A New Way To Sterilize Jars Without A P.C [Re: blackout]
#21733284 - 05/28/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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you want bactericidal agents not fungicidal the fungus in the grain is killed easily unless you have byssochlamys which has spores activated by temperatures above 160F
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thewanderer25
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Re: A New Way To Sterilize Jars Without A P.C [Re: bodhisatta]
#21733932 - 05/28/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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well i got a pressure cooker today so im good to go with the corn tek
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Re: A New Way To Sterilize Jars Without A P.C [Re: thewanderer25]
#21734602 - 05/28/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good to hear dude, what kind did you get and price?
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Re: A New Way To Sterilize Jars Without A P.C [Re: UncleFester]
#21738200 - 05/29/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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idk its from a thrift store but it should work i got it for 10 dollars
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Re: A New Way To Sterilize Jars Without A P.C [Re: bodhisatta]
#21740009 - 05/30/15 07:28 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: you want bactericidal agents not fungicidal the fungus in the grain is killed easily unless you have byssochlamys which has spores activated by temperatures above 160F
I saw RR saying he thought his banrot seemed to keep bacteria at bay.
My small test jar is not contaminated but may be a little too dry and there is not much growth from the agar wedge I put in. I PC'd other grains with thiomethyl and put agar wedges on them an all are growing, it is odd looking growth all in spots.
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RogerRabbit said: I found no problems when using banrot, and the fruits came out normal. It seems I used 1 tablespoon of Banrot 40WP per five gallons of soak water, but that could probably be reduced.
Banrot will prevent fungi spores from germinating, but doesn't affect mycelium. It also seems to prevent bacteria. I once left a freshly sterilized jar of rye berries exposed to the open air for half an hour or so, then closed it up and a month later, it was still contaminant free.
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