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Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots?
    #21730080 - 05/27/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Title says it all. Im kinda just like: What the fuck is this shit?

Details: Just recently (2 days ago) removed from 24h dunk, rolled in coco coir (second dunk and roll, begining of second flush).

4/5 cakes are pinning just finely, but this 1 appears to either have some form of mass contamination, or mass bluing hyphal knot formation. (strange!?)

Any assistance is much appreciated. No signs of this happening to other cakes, which were dunked with that one, and are right next to it as we speak.
Help me figure out what the fuck is going on here.

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Edit: There are no irregular smells. Smells fine and dandy like it should.
Edit#2: Yes, im using a styrafoam cooler. And it works like a fucking charm.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21730100 - 05/27/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Mass trich by the looks of it

The shrooms that are growing are starving for fresh air also.

"Not working like a charm"


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21730106 - 05/27/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid: get it out of there

What is that fruiting chamber? :S show me the tek where you got it so I can bash the shit out of it LOL!


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21730138 - 05/27/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Got it out. Thanks guys. Yea it was some kind of contam I inspected it and it Def wasn't part of the mycelium. Lysol hopefully will kill any of its spores on or around the other cakes.
But realistically I'd imagine the others will come down with it at some point too.

Idk if it's trick, it had a distinct blue-green. Trick?

And no the shrooms aren't starving fresh air. They are pins. I've had successful healthy shrooms come from using the cooler. I give em fresh air multiple time a day.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21730146 - 05/27/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, they are starving for fae, trust me


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21730151 - 05/27/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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:whathesaid: get it out of there

What is that fruiting chamber? :S show me the tek where you got it so I can bash the shit out of it LOL!



It was a poor man's suggestion, wasn't a Tek.

Also I have a q: what's the chances of the other cakes becoming infected? Do cakes have a random resistance, some will fall I'll, some won't? Or simple exposure is insta kill? Thanks


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #21730169 - 05/27/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You don't Lysol the inside of your fc with myc growing lol.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21730172 - 05/27/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

They look starved of fae to me bro. Pins are supposed to be short and fat. Not long and skinny stretching for air.

A chamber NEEDS to be constantly exchanged of co2. You need less than 1000 ppm of co2 constantly and the atmosphere is around 400 ppm. You have to be fanning every 10-20 minutes for a decent amount of fae or have a chamber like a sgfc or mono for constant air exchange.

If the cakes are healthy they'll survive any amount of trich exposure.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21730197 - 05/27/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've had short and fat pins, in very less FAE environments than what you just saw there. Really. Not only pins, but became very fat and large shrooms. In a much smaller and less FAE environment. (edited to fix typo)

This strain I have appears to be growing thinner shrooms.
Grown from cooler(Malaysia strain):


Different strain, grown in lesser Fae environment, never fanned, only opened cap to allow gas exchange. Never misted, the evap of cakes supplied humidity(Koh Samui):



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They look starved of fae to me bro. Pins are supposed to be short and fat. Not long and skinny stretching for air.

A chamber NEEDS to be constantly exchanged of co2. You need less than 1000 ppm of co2 constantly and the atmosphere is around 400 ppm. You have to be fanning every 10-20 minutes for a decent amount of fae or have a chamber like a sgfc or mono for constant air exchange.

If the cakes are healthy they'll survive any amount of trich exposure.




Thanks for the last sentence thats good to hear.
The cakes may not be as healthy as they could be, probably because I havent been tending them the last couple days as much as I should, as much as I usually do.
As for fruiting chamber specifics? Blah blah blah, thanks though mane.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21730212 - 05/27/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:facepalm: well lots of those guys are about to abort so don't say we didn't warn you.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21730233 - 05/27/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Oh I appreciate the warning good sir.

It's a wake up call to tend the flock.

Next time ima use the chambers that you see in the second pic above. I have 2 of them, they're just large square glass jars. And they work great.
This is the second flush I've ever grown out of this cooler, wanted togive it a shot.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21731314 - 05/28/15 06:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Now that I think of it. There was 1 cake during the 1st flush that only put out 1/2 or less shrooms than the other cakes. Instead of leaving that one in there to continue fruiting I decided to dunk it with the others. It must have been too hydrated.
When I inspected it, removing the trick, the cake itself just came apart if I grabbed a piece of it, like it was soggy. Too hydrated. Not healthy.
Lesson learned.
(I'll post a pic when the shrooms achieve maturity, none look like there going to abort except a couple lil pins)


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21734683 - 05/28/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

These guys are smart mofos id listen to them sgfcs are not hard to make the container is 5-10$ at walmart target lowes etc and the holes take all of 30 min to work on now i wont deny that what you have works and thats great and looks like you got nice results man :seriousthumbsup:

But and this is a big but you could have much much better results with $10 dollars and 30 min of your time sometimes being an over acheiver pays off anyway just my 2 cents


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Zuto18]
    #21735074 - 05/29/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This post is great.  People arguing against other people that not only know what they are doing, but are arguing against time-tested and proven methods because it gave them, wait for it, what they THINK are "great" shrooms. 

If you really want to figure out what's wrong, start eliminating what the problems could be, and the majority of people on here are saying its an FAE problem, buy a storage tote, like $7.79 at Wal-Mart, and make a SGFC. If the problem is still there come back and tell us all how wrong we are.  If not, lose the cake:shrug:


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: firstTIMER420]
    #21735128 - 05/29/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Zuto18]
    #21735482 - 05/29/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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These guys are smart mofos id listen to them sgfcs are not hard to make the container is 5-10$ at walmart target lowes etc and the holes take all of 30 min to work on now i wont deny that what you have works and thats great and looks like you got nice results man :seriousthumbsup:

But and this is a big but you could have much much better results with $10 dollars and 30 min of your time sometimes being an over acheiver pays off anyway just my 2 cents



Thanks everyone.
I'm not denying that my results could be 'better', my point here is that it 'works'.

Trust me, I plan to get a real tub here soon, a couple plastic tubs and minitubs and make a standard growing chamber, by standard, I mean proven and tested.

But at the moment I don't have a lot of resources or time to work on that, and to anyone in the same position I hope they could consider my conditions. Because it's gotten me through


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21735541 - 05/29/15 03:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Zuto18 said:
These guys are smart mofos id listen to them sgfcs are not hard to make the container is 5-10$ at walmart target lowes etc and the holes take all of 30 min to work on now i wont deny that what you have works and thats great and looks like you got nice results man :seriousthumbsup:

But and this is a big but you could have much much better results with $10 dollars and 30 min of your time sometimes being an over acheiver pays off anyway just my 2 cents



Thanks everyone.
I'm not denying that my results could be 'better', my point here is that it 'works'.

Trust me, I plan to get a real tub here soon, a couple plastic tubs and minitubs and make a standard growing chamber, by standard, I mean proven and tested.

But at the moment I don't have a lot of resources or time to work on that, and to anyone in the same position I hope they could consider my conditions. Because it's gotten me through




I gotcha and ive been there i used this thing for my first chamber.



Then that thing sucked so i made this.



And then i made my sgfc and that became this.



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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: Zuto18]
    #21735550 - 05/29/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol. Nice :thumbup:
I think that's what I'll name my cooler after I get some real chambers. The cooler of shame.


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Re: Contamination or Mass Bluing Hyphal Knots? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #21735556 - 05/29/15 04:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck yeah!!


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