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Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage
    #21730034 - 05/27/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, Everyone. I have taken shrooms probably 10 times and a maximum of 6g before and Iv'e never been even a little afraid on shrooms since the first time and it only lasted 5 minutes and was caused by getting kicked out of a party and having no where to sleep. I feel I handle the psychedelic experience very well compared to the people I have done them with. I do not seek a high only higher consciousness and knowledge. So I ask how many micrograms of LSD should I use for my first time?

I have found an incredible LSD dosage chart on reddit to understand what its like for each amount but its says 200 micrograms of LSD is way too much for a first time user but I want to try 250mg so am I being too confident or should I go for it.
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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661]
    #21730054 - 05/27/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

you could take 2 hits for your first time if you think you can handle it, but when you have really bomb acid, 2 hits might be too much.  just start off with one to get the feel of it.  depends how strong the acid is.  a lot of people couldn't handle 2 hits of this liquid i had a while back... but 1 hit was so blissful for them.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661]
    #21730058 - 05/27/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You're not being too confident, go for it. LSD is very easy to handle if you are at all comfortable in higher states of consciousness. You will have so much more control than you do on shrooms and you can basically send the trip in whatever direction you like. At least that has been my experience. I've never had anything close to a bad trip on LSD, except for just wanting it to end so I could sleep and not being able to.

Mushrooms are way better though, way way better, but LSD is still worth experiencing.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: Deviate]
    #21730082 - 05/27/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ya thats what I was thinking Ive had a lot of people tell me its a lot easier to handle.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661]
    #21730101 - 05/27/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

the main downside to LSD (for me at least) is that it lasts way too long. I took a 10 strip once and couldn't sleep for over 40 hours. It was a nightmare because I had work the next day and went to work still tripping a little bit with having had no sleep, horrible experience.

So keep that in mind and plan accordingly. The unfortunate thing about acid is the euphoria and fun effects where off relatively quick (5-7 hours) but you dont truly stop tripping for many hours after that.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: Deviate]
    #21730116 - 05/27/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ya that will be a little different cause shrooms I'm pretty much guaranteed will be over in 8 hours but Lsd can often go to twice that.
I still love the mind trip anyway I dont think it will bother me that much. Plus Im gonna go on a 4 day camping trip when I do it plus I'll be doing Mescaline the second half of the camp trip.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661] * 1
    #21730128 - 05/27/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds awesome. Tripping in nature is the best.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: Deviate]
    #21730170 - 05/27/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I honestly don't get why people say it's easier to handle. I just think people tend to dose lower. Most tabs are dosed pretty weakly.

I give first timers I introduce to acid a dose of 125ug (lab tested). No one has found it underwhelming. Even experienced mushroom trippers.

But if you don't get your doses analysed in a lab you'll never know how much you'll dose anyway. In that case, this thread is pretty useless...


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21730182 - 05/27/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I agree. But I have already had them tested at a lab I decided for my first time it was worth it and they came out at 180ug per tab.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661]
    #21730211 - 05/27/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Take one.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21730259 - 05/27/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Check out this dosage chart I found.


So i was surfing around the webs absorbing different info about LSD (fascinating lil chemical isnt it?) and i stumbled across this. I found it very useful for explaning what LSD generally does around different doses of UG.
Source: Google: Rollitup LSD Dosage. First link.
20 mics- threshold. Some slight euphoria and body high.
30 mics- threshold, same as 20 mics
40 mics- obviously feeling Lucy's effects a little bit but again no visuals even though may see some
60 mics- = The typical low quality blotter. Body high with "under water like feeling". Lights are brighter, colors are slightly enhanced and some after imaging and trails. This dosage makes for a good time, even though it isn't considered tripping. Lasts longer and is similar to a a gram of shrooms.
90 mics- Bright colors, surfaces start to move, warp or breathe slightly. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. You start to think more. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Your brain starts to speed up and you become more aware of everything.
110 mics- A hit of some really good lsd. Visuals are getting a lot more obvious now. "Ripples" over laying your field of vision. Patterns from all different cultures seen on walls, surfaces, faces etc. Closed eye hallucinations become more apparent.
150 mics- This is the main dosage people try to shoot for if they are not that experienced to get LSD's effects without freaking out. This dose is usually 1-2 hits of good, legit LSD.
Effects are a lot like 110 micrograms but more profound.

(incraments I mention will stay the same but the effects of upping it 50 mics becomes more intense than above the line.)
200 mics- This is where things can get powerful. Your mind is racing. Beautiful colors are everywhere. Closed eye visuals are very apparent at this point. Life changing, spiritual experiences or realization can happen at this dose. If you are a noob to lsd this dose is simply too high for you. Many people can handle it quite well but some may freak out.
250 mics- This dose is the dose Albert Hoffman, the creator of LSD tried when he first dosed himself to see what LSD's effects were like. The peak of a 250 mic acid trip can be VERY intense or even scary but like any LSD trip. once the peak effects ware off, the more comfortable the trip is. When the comedown started, he was fine, and he became a rockstar. Closed eye visuals are amazing at this dose.
300 mics- your getting into heavy territory. Still not considered by most to be a heavy dose, but thats only because they know where most people including themselves draw the line if they are experienced. Its alot like 250 mics.
400 mics- most people would never take this much unless they knew the acid they have in their possesion and really wanted to get pretty far out there. This is why you dont see 200+ mic hits around. There is some confusing of the senses (i.e. seeing sounds as colors etc.) Time distortions and moments of eternity. Body movement becomes difficult and disorienting. There is a heightened sense of awareness of one's own feelings and drive. People usually report this dose as thought provoking and life changing. For some, their ability to discern is somewhat thrown off. More likely to respond to suggestive stimuli. It is recommended that there be a sitter to watch over the tripper just in case he/she would do something that could be a potential hazard.
500 mics- Strong hallucinations and visuals. objects morphing into other objects (both closed and open eye visuals). Destruction or multiple splitting of the ego. (Things start talking to you, or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously) Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Pretty much where even some of the most experienced people draw the line. Your vision is almost completely enveloped by fractal patterns, and if you were to stare at some pavement or something, it looks like you can see to the end of eternity. Miles and miles of visual depth. There are many subtypes of these: Mandelbrots, spirals, wave interference patterns,etc.
700 mics- Out of body experiences and extra-sensory perception type phenomena. Blending of the senses. Visuals containing imagery from Hindu, Aztec, Mayan, Native American, Indian and African cultures are quite common. Most people who talk of taking a ten strip usually dont have very potent acid(though it is good), so 550 to 700 is where they end up. This is also where "more acid" becomes less important because the effects are very similar to an even higher dose.
1000 mics- Most people will never go this high. Only shamans and those who really seek will go this high. If you had a "two hits and you are floored" type of lsd, or 100 mics and up hits, this is where a ten strip would put you. You basically cant see anything but visuals, your mind as a whole is infinately connected with its self and your external environment. Amazing things happen on this dose no matter what if you use LSD as an entheogen. It would scare most people shitless because they were not ready for that dose. Some people will think they are dying. Many would end up dialing 911 if they were alone and could read the numbers on the phone.
1500 mics- Very few people have used this much lsd. It is VERY psychologically dangerous for some people to do this dose. You can no longer really see your own hand in front of your face. Your cognition and vision are both bathed in the same light. Some people forget to breath frequently, and id imagine alot of people would pass out. You will loose your ego, but you will meet many organizers of human cognition in this egoless place. They are much smarter than human beings. "they" *are self conscious neurology. They are the mathematicians behind consciousness and even the visuals themselves. Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satorienlightenment (and other such labels).
A dose 700 mics and above will show anyone some very profound things. Doses like 500 mics and above have changed many lives in both positive and negative ways.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661]
    #21730567 - 05/27/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I've seen it before. It is accurate from my experiences. But I have never dosed higher than 240 mics.

The comment that states that a challenging trip always gets more comfortable once the comedown starts is complete bullshit though.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21730610 - 05/27/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

In my experience they're both easy to control. LSD does get more confusing and feels a lot more like drugs to me. If I had to compare the two Mushrooms connect you to the earth and LSD connects you to the cosmos. Its just a spacier feeling drug and I think you'll enjoy it very much. For some reason LSD is always more self indulgent at least for me. What I mean by this is that I still have my mind on LSD and I get these crazy random thoughts that make me laugh because sometimes they're just..Idk insane and you love everyone of your random insane thoughts. Bottom line if you took 6 grams of shrooms you can handle 200 mics of acid. I once did 250 and took it like a champ in my early acid days. Sure I was in a 3d walt disney cartoon that was painted in Kaleidoscopes..but I ordered my starbucks like a champ..


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #21730622 - 05/27/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well yeah, if everything is going for you... Everything is going for you. Good acid trips simply make you invincible. Too bad it's not a reliable effect :wink:

I was such a champ one fine evening that the toilet decided to come to me when I had to piss instead of the other way around. Everything was so effortless. If I was anywhere near a starbucks I would have owned it as well.

Other time, I went to the toilet, finished, sat down on the lounge, and repeated the whole thing. Forever. And ever. And ever. In retrospect I'm pretty sure I only went twice. But in my mind it kept repeating eternally. The inevitability of it going on forever was absolutely terrifying.

Same dose.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21754815 - 06/02/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

To answer your question, I vote yes. If you are ready, and the set and setting is right - why not?

I have had several trips at levels from 0-250. Weak/bunk tabs occasionally, but happy to enjoy quality Lucy when she comes around. (:

For me, the full Lsd experience is somewhere in the 100-200 range. That's where I want to be if tripping acid only. I'd be happy to explore the higher realms as well, when the time is right!

Be safe and enjoy! Also, thanks GoldenEye for the dose chart - super helpful info there.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: tpot]
    #21755464 - 06/02/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the credit but I'm going to have to side with Shaggy: wasn't me!


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: GoldenEye]
    #21755664 - 06/03/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The comment that states that a challenging trip always gets more comfortable once the comedown starts is complete bullshit though.




I don't know if the "challenging" aspects of it will get more comfortable, but I definitely notice a difference in my reaction to the substance between come-up and peak/comedown time. No matter the psych and the duration (6 hr shrooms, 12 hours acid, 15 minutes DMT) I ALWAYS have serious anxiety while I'm getting higher. I completely expect it to happen and try to avoid it, but until I know I've peaked I'm a bit freaked at just how high I am. But once I've peaked, even if I'm engulfed in who-knows-what, I get used to the intensity (as long as not super negative).


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: Godfather1376]
    #21756598 - 06/03/15 09:06 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Take one.

When it comes to any trips its better to have wished you took more than to regret too much. Plus idk how accurately dosed ur tabs are but 250ug lsd is like 3-5 hits of your average street cid.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: teenagehippie]
    #21756627 - 06/03/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Just read back through.

If you really have 180ug tabs, one will rock your world. keep a little weed on hand to knock it up if you're feeling underwhelmed but I garuantee you won't need more than a tab if it's that strong :smile:

Happy trippin however you decide to dose man.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: Godfather1376]
    #21757643 - 06/03/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The comment that states that a challenging trip always gets more comfortable once the comedown starts is complete bullshit though.




I don't know if the "challenging" aspects of it will get more comfortable, but I definitely notice a difference in my reaction to the substance between come-up and peak/comedown time. No matter the psych and the duration (6 hr shrooms, 12 hours acid, 15 minutes DMT) I ALWAYS have serious anxiety while I'm getting higher. I completely expect it to happen and try to avoid it, but until I know I've peaked I'm a bit freaked at just how high I am. But once I've peaked, even if I'm engulfed in who-knows-what, I get used to the intensity (as long as not super negative).




I don't recognise this. Sure, come-ups are challenging. But so are come downs. The peak is never a problem for me. The higher I am the easier it is. Coming down can introduce it's own problems. I'm not exactly sure how to characterise those. But I just know that I have had many challenging come downs after completely anxiety free come-ups and trips. Guess I am just made to stay in la la land.


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Re: Experienced Shroom Taker First Time LSD-25 Dosage [Re: nibroc661]
    #21779518 - 06/08/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Did you ever dose?


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