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Identification, Panaeolus? Species?
    #21729182 - 05/27/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I found these in the backyard. Appear to be Panaeolus genus, but I am still new to identifying this genus and I am unsure exactly the information required to give a positive identification. I will gladly provide any other pictures or information required.

Habitat: moist, fertile grass on the edge of the woods. Well-groomed but not fertilized
Location: Southeast Ohio
Gills: Picture included, dark brown, adnex
Stem: Picture included. Includes the spiraling vertical lines. No blue bruising apparent
Spore print: Picture included. Appears jet black
Scent: Mushroomy, earthy, no other apparent smells


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: attnny]
    #21729553 - 05/27/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

panaeolus subbalteatus

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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: attnny]
    #21729564 - 05/27/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm somehow tempted to call this a Psathyrella sp.

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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21729634 - 05/27/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm somehow tempted to call this a Psathyrella sp.

Ah yes very well could be Psathyrella sp. Does it have a hollow stripe?


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21729661 - 05/27/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Gills are mottled. I think those are Panaeolus cinctulus.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21730448 - 05/27/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm somehow tempted to call this a Psathyrella sp.




I see where you're coming from, but not with those mottled gills and twisting lines down the stipe. I'm also pretty confident those are Panaeolus cinctulus.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #21730560 - 05/27/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

On yay I was right with my first id :thumbup:


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: AlmightyGoku]
    #21731831 - 05/28/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The stipe is hollow. Not all of the vertical lines twist on every mushroom as extreme as the photo. Some appear mostly vertical without a twist.

As more come up, color varies drastically between patches of mushrooms, but I am assuming this is normal as color varies in age, moisture, and environment in most mushrooms. All appear to develop a color pattern of concentric circles.

The common features between all individual patches would be the dark-brown mottled gills, vertical stripes, hollow stipe, adnex, size, shape, and spore print jet black.



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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #21732026 - 05/28/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Anglerfish said:
I'm somehow tempted to call this a Psathyrella sp.




I see where you're coming from, but not with those mottled gills and twisting lines down the stipe. I'm also pretty confident those are Panaeolus cinctulus.




I might be fooled by the colors and the imo-not-so-Panaeolus-looking gill structure. But one specimen isn't exactly much to go on.
Then again, there are Psathyrella sp. with mottled gills in young specimens. As always, in situ shots and preferably more specimens
would be helpful.

Perhaps Byrain could give better comments on this, though.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21732648 - 05/28/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Here's some images of several samples. Unfortunately, as it is raining, the pics had to be taken inside, so the lighting is not prime. The ones with oddly-shaped caps were in the sun and older than the shaded uniformly-shaped caps.





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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: attnny]
    #21732790 - 05/28/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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The stipe is hollow. Not all of the vertical lines twist on every mushroom as extreme as the photo. Some appear mostly vertical without a twist.

As more come up, color varies drastically between patches of mushrooms, but I am assuming this is normal as color varies in age, moisture, and environment in most mushrooms. All appear to develop a color pattern of concentric circles.

The common features between all individual patches would be the dark-brown mottled gills, vertical stripes, hollow stipe, adnex, size, shape, and spore print jet black.






so not Psathyrella sp


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: AlmightyGoku]
    #21732850 - 05/28/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The jet black spore print and the red base would indicate Pan. cinctulus.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: attnny]
    #21733341 - 05/28/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Looking at the new pictures I'll have to agree, looks a lot like P. cinctulus.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: Anglerfish]
    #21733655 - 05/28/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

aka panaeolus subbalteatus which I id'd it as days ago.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: AlmightyGoku]
    #21733757 - 05/28/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:notcoolman:


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: o8u]
    #21734096 - 05/28/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

O shit. I Gotta brush up on names.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: AlmightyGoku]
    #21734746 - 05/28/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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aka panaeolus subbalteatus which I id'd it as days ago.



And you asked for TI's to confirm. So I don't get what you're trying to achieve with that comment. Apologies if you weren't trying to be snarky, but it did appear that way to me.


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: HookerWithAPenis]
    #21735036 - 05/28/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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AlmightyGoku said:
aka panaeolus subbalteatus which I id'd it as days ago.



And you asked for TI's to confirm. So I don't get what you're trying to achieve with that comment. Apologies if you weren't trying to be snarky, but it did appear that way to me.



Sorry I just got a bit uppity cause I've never id'd anything properly. Didn't mean to be snarky


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Re: Identification, Panaeolus? Species? [Re: AlmightyGoku]
    #21748078 - 06/01/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you all for helping me identify these! Just for the sake of sharing more information and providing my own observations, I thought I'd take some more pictures today as much more have sprung up.

They grow relatively wide-spread but always in clusters. The young mushroms have very pronounced circular zonate patterns on the cap, but they typically fade away to a dull, light tan in age. When they become old and dry, they turn dark and gills are especially dark. Sometimes they exhibit the patterns when they are dried.




The gills all share the same characteristics. Typically they are very dark brown. Younger specimens can be lighter, but not significantly. They all exhibit a mottled pattern. The edge of the gills always show an almost-white coloring. The following picture shows it well.



The caps tend to be much lighter colored and crack in the sun. Older specimens can grow a much thicker stipe. 1/4" has been the largest stipe diameter and the cap may grow up to 1" diameter. The older specimens' stipes are often twisted and bent. They also exhibit the twisting lines up the stipe, however, younger specimens are usually straight. All are hollow.



Two have showed very faint bluing at the base. Both of these were in the sun and grew in very close proximity. Their stipes were also darker overall.


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