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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: qman]
    #21731817 - 05/28/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Cops here are regularly subjected to pen time when they misapproriate force. I dont see the big deal. Do the crime do the time, they know what the consequences are better then anyone else. Why should they have a cozy little prison built for their criminal ass's.




Yeah, lots of people are going to take a job in which people like you will accuse them of "misappropriate use of force" everyday and then they can end up in prison, where do they sign up?




The local PD, if the fucktards cant differentiate between non and life threatning situations maybe they should sign up for something else.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21731828 - 05/28/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
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qman said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Cops here are regularly subjected to pen time when they misapproriate force. I dont see the big deal. Do the crime do the time, they know what the consequences are better then anyone else. Why should they have a cozy little prison built for their criminal ass's.




Yeah, lots of people are going to take a job in which people like you will accuse them of "misappropriate use of force" everyday and then they can end up in prison, where do they sign up?




The local PD, if the fucktards cant differentiate between non and life threatning situations maybe they should sign up for something else.





if someone is trying to run you down with their car, is that considered life threatening?


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21731854 - 05/28/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i see everyone's car's coming at me when i try to cross the street... shit in both directions. must be trying to kill me.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21731862 - 05/28/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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i see everyone's car's coming at me when i try to cross the street... shit in both directions. must be trying to kill me.





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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21731865 - 05/28/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thats depends on several variables. The most major factor being speed. The chase ended in a middle school parking lot. Given that its a middle school there would only be enough parking space for the staff, in other words there wouldnt have been enough space to gain the speed required to cause any injuries. Another factor would be whether or not the officer was in a vehicle, which he was. Its easy get dramtic and scream murder but the reality is that the officer was perfectly safe in this situation and the chase was already effectively over. There was absolutely no need to escalate force.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21731875 - 05/28/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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qman said:
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Cops here are regularly subjected to pen time when they misapproriate force. I dont see the big deal. Do the crime do the time, they know what the consequences are better then anyone else. Why should they have a cozy little prison built for their criminal ass's.




Yeah, lots of people are going to take a job in which people like you will accuse them of "misappropriate use of force" everyday and then they can end up in prison, where do they sign up?




The local PD, if the fucktards cant differentiate between non and life threatening situations maybe they should sign up for something else.




Here in the US where many areas are full of fucktards the cops are placed in life threatening situations on a daily basis, you want to put them into prison for not being able to differentiate every situation that's not up to your unrealistic standard. 

Why don't you become a cop and show the world the incredible restraint you would use even when your life was at stake,  something tells me your version of "life threatening situations" would change very quickly.  :lol:


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: qman]
    #21731878 - 05/28/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I highly doubt that, having some car bump into me at a low speed wouldnt make my life feel threatened.

Glad to see pris is slowly losing his mind.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21731887 - 05/28/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I highly doubt that, having some car bump into me at a low speed wouldnt make my life feel threatened.

Glad to see pris is slowly losing his mind.




what about when the driver does it under acceleration after some altercation,
does it then become a threat to your life?


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21731896 - 05/28/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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yes, their actions led to their deaths so they did in fact bring their deaths


pris-1

no, one of them had no actions. like i said you dont know that the other wasnt a hostage

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being an anarchist is awesome, because while i DONT want ANY government, i can objectively say "this isnt how you said it was going to work" and not be a hippocrit.

im not a liberal. and if you paid attention you'd know that. i dont think we should have roads, military, schools, laws, at ALL. i dont think we need them.

i dont think we should pay taxes.

i do think we have an environment which is in danger, and if these pesky laws didnt get in the way we would hunt down the people responcible and stop them.

thats how it SHOULD be.

i dont believe we should PAY enforcers to KILL people. the military kills people, the police are supposed to keep the peace. they didnt, they killed one person who is CLEARLY innocent (as he wasnt in control and didnt get in the car after the police chase started, he was just in the car. he may have tried to talk the guy out of it, he could have been a hitch hiker... we dont know.

we do know he didnt commit a crime. and he was shot by political enforcers.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21731897 - 05/28/15 09:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Not really seeing as Im in a car, and Ive had it happen before. Of course I wasnt driving but I was in the vehicle none the less.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21731923 - 05/28/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Thats depends on several variables. The most major factor being speed. The chase ended in a middle school parking lot. Given that its a middle school there would only be enough parking space for the staff, in other words there wouldnt have been enough space to gain the speed required to cause any injuries. Another factor would be whether or not the officer was in a vehicle, which he was.





the chase 'ended' earlier than that when they had him blocked, he rammed a
cop's car and they shot at him the first time, at least they thought it ended
until he punched the gas and went for round two

your narrative doesnt hold true, a car doesnt need speed to cause injuries,
people have been run over at very low speeds, my sister was run over by a truck
that was simply backing up, put the 'justification of criminality' back in your
pocket because these absurd claims simply dont hold water

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Its easy get dramtic and scream murder but the reality is that the officer was perfectly safe in this situation and the chase was already effectively over. There was absolutely no need to escalate force.




you mean the way that everyone is claiming the cops murdered these two people
that put the public and the officers in danger?

let's talk about the 'escalation of force', a cop was stopping them for failure
to use a turn signal and their response was to lead them on a 22mile, 100mph
chase through public streets... who escalated the use of force?

they were 'hemmed in' and they opted to ram a cop car and were shot at and they
still decided to continue running from the cops through those public streets,
again, who escalated the use of force?

they were 'hemmed in' a second time, the cops opened fire and the car was still
moving, a cop jumped on the hood and fired directly at the occupants in order
to ensure that the threat they posed was eliminated and somehow you think that
the cops escalated the use of force when they were driving a deadly weapon


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21731928 - 05/28/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

honestly, i think a smart person, would not run from the cops, would comply with their orders, and would probably not get shot.  hell, thats what i've always done when i have to deal with the cops.  it hasn't kept them from giving me the pinky squeeze on occasion, or from storming my home with guns drawn, but i haven't been shot yet.  That being said, with all the police shootings that happen, i can certainly understand why a person's fight or flight response could be triggered by cops.  These guys should not have ran, and they should not have rammed the cops.  They probably didn't deserve to die, but i'll give a pass this time to all the cops except Officer Brelo.  This feels strange to me, because i kinda agree with Pris for once.  Its very disconcerting.  it reminds me of a movie i once saw



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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21731934 - 05/28/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Theres no realistic way any of them couldve been injured, and none of them did get injured. These claims of violent assaults on their lives simply dont hold up to reality.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21731947 - 05/28/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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honestly, i think a smart person, would not run from the cops, would comply with their orders, and would probably not get shot.  hell, thats what i've always done when i have to deal with the cops.  it hasn't kept them from giving me the pinky squeeze on occasion, or from storming my home with guns drawn, but i haven't been shot yet.  That being said, with all the police shootings that happen, i can certainly understand why a person's fight or flight response could be triggered by cops.  These guys should not have ran, and they should not have rammed the cops.  They probably didn't deserve to die, but i'll give a pass this time to all the cops except Officer Brelo.  This feels strange to me, because i kinda agree with Pris for once.  Its very disconcerting.  it reminds me of a movie i once saw






Exactly, there are a ton of legit instances of police brutality. When you use deadly force, expect deadly force to be returned. This goes for anyone regardless of job or where you are in the world.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: rxb]
    #21731950 - 05/28/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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yes, their actions led to their deaths so they did in fact bring their deaths


pris-1

no, one of them had no actions. like i said you dont know that the other wasnt a hostage




so where's the evidence that one of them was a hostage?

let's tel you how the laws work, you're in a car with someone, they decide to
rob a bank, you decide you'll wait in the car, you dont exit the vehicle, you
dont take the keys, you sit there with the motor running, a few moments later
they come running out of the bank with a sack of cash, jump in the car and you
speed off


are you an innocent bystander or an accomplice? the law says you're an accomplice


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im not a liberal. and if you paid attention you'd know that. i dont think we should have roads, military, schools, laws, at ALL. i dont think we need them.

i do think we have an environment which is in danger, and if these pesky laws didnt get in the way we would hunt down the people responcible and stop them.

thats how it SHOULD be.




so what you're saying is that you're a liberal and a hypocrite because you say
we shouldnt have laws bu you want to hunt down and kill the offenders of what
you feel should be the laws


you've just established a form of government, congrats


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: rxb]
    #21731952 - 05/28/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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rxb said:
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yes, their actions led to their deaths so they did in fact bring their deaths


pris-1

no, one of them had no actions. like i said you dont know that the other wasnt a hostage

---------

being an anarchist is awesome, because while i DONT want ANY government, i can objectively say "this isnt how you said it was going to work" and not be a hippocrit.

im not a liberal. and if you paid attention you'd know that. i dont think we should have roads, military, schools, laws, at ALL. i dont think we need them.

i dont think we should pay taxes.

i do think we have an environment which is in danger, and if these pesky laws didnt get in the way we would hunt down the people responcible and stop them.

thats how it SHOULD be.

i dont believe we should PAY enforcers to KILL people. the military kills people, the police are supposed to keep the peace. they didnt, they killed one person who is CLEARLY innocent (as he wasnt in control and didnt get in the car after the police chase started, he was just in the car. he may have tried to talk the guy out of it, he could have been a hitch hiker... we dont know.

we do know he didnt commit a crime. and he was shot by political enforcers.




"the police are supposed to keep the peace"

And how is that accomplished?  By enforcing the laws and apprehending suspects, sometimes that includes being involved in violent scenarios.


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: qman]
    #21731956 - 05/28/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

come on pris, i just compared you to the freaky nazi guy from Falling Down.
I can't troll any harder than that


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21731961 - 05/28/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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so where's the evidence that one of them was a hostage?




innocent til proven guilty right?

wheres the proof he participated in anything illegal willingly?


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: ballsalsa]
    #21731965 - 05/28/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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come on pris, i just compared you to the freaky nazi guy from Falling Down.
I can't troll any harder than that





I didnt even see your post


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Re: Cleveland Officer Not Guilty in Killing Unarmed Pair [Re: rxb]
    #21731974 - 05/28/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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so where's the evidence that one of them was a hostage?




innocent til proven guilty right?

wheres the proof he participated in anything illegal willingly?





so the cops are supposed to simply lay down and die and hope the criminal turn
themselves in for trial? how are these criminals supposed to be apprehended for
trial when they're determined to kill anyone that tries to stop them.

do the cops not have the right to defend their lives?

why is it no one wants to give an answer to that last question


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