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CLIT
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can coca plant grow in the U.S.?
#21727337 - 05/27/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would assume high altitude places like Colorado and New Mexico it COULD be possible for coca plants to grow?
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: CLIT]
#21728437 - 05/27/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anything can be grown in thw US.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: ferrel_human]
#21729654 - 05/27/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They grow fine at sea level too. Get novo because e coca is too hard to grow.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21730857 - 05/28/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would think there had to be a slight difference in potency or quality between the 2 types? At the end of the day they both contain cocaine right?
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Stonehenge said: They grow fine at sea level too. Get novo because e coca is too hard to grow.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: CLIT]
#21731791 - 05/28/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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CLIT said: I would think there had to be a slight difference in potency or quality between the 2 types? At the end of the day they both contain cocaine right?
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Stonehenge said: They grow fine at sea level too. Get novo because e coca is too hard to grow.
Correct. I hear many growers in s America are switching to e novo because its easier to grow and yields just as much.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21735663 - 05/29/15 05:43 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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From the youtube videos I've seen, a coca plant grown in about 8 months minimum to a year? Is this about right?
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: CLIT]
#21792526 - 06/11/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Mandarinfish]
#21792534 - 06/11/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mandarinfish said: I have a 4 foot E. Novo in a 2 gallon pail that I started last July.
It's bushy has hell. Because I started taking the fan leaves off when it started making branches at the nodes. It has one nice red berry and lots of flowers now.
I have to put it outside soon to get the bees to do what's natural.
If every flower was pollinated I would be rolling with over a hundred of berries. 
BTW: I'm in Canada.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Zombi3]
#21792545 - 06/11/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mandarinfish said: I have a 4 foot E. Novo in a 2 gallon pail that I started last July.
It's bushy has hell. Because I started taking the fan leaves off when it started making branches at the nodes. It has one nice red berry and lots of flowers now.
I have to put it outside soon to get the bees to do what's natural.
If every flower was pollinated I would be rolling with over a hundred of berries. 
BTW: I'm in Canada.
Grown from seed or cutting?
Ita probably seed grown. It's very hard to clone ime.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Zombi3]
#21792547 - 06/11/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Mandarinfish]
#21792804 - 06/11/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yea man, novos ftw for the adaptive nature. E coca is a bit of a bitch, but I've had them grow as a house plant just fine. Novo also does clone much easier as well.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Intj]
#21793787 - 06/11/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Mandarinfish]
#21795681 - 06/12/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not quite sure what you guys mean by "clones". I've planted plants before and usually 1 seed will yield 1 plant, not sure what would happen if I dump a hundred seeds in the soil would it grow a hundred plants? Also, is the coca plant able to grow back leaves after you've used the leaves or not?
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: CLIT]
#21796446 - 06/12/15 08:42 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Clones like the same concept as marijuana clones. Same principle. You cut off a decent growth shoot, and you force it to root, making two plants.
As far as growing from a hundred seeds, I don't see why not ,so long as they are still viable. coca seeds don't survive long, they need to be planted ASAP.
And yes the leaves do grow back, I personally haven't stripped one down to nothing, but I have seen many people native to that plant completely pluck it to a bush of twigs. Not sure how long it would take to recover from that, but that's probably they plant as much as they do, among other reasons.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Intj]
#21796485 - 06/12/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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They say the main way of propagation of Erythroxylum coca is through cloning. And the reverse is said for novogranatense. Only through seed cause its self pollinatimg.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: ferrel_human]
#21796554 - 06/12/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually that's the Amazonian ipadu strain, that's a clone only. Novo are the easiest to clone ,and E coco being the hardest.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Intj]
#21796601 - 06/12/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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E novo is not easy to clone but it can be done.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21796638 - 06/12/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: E novo is not easy to clone but it can be done.
I'm with you Stonehenge. I've tried countless of times and failed all the times.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: ferrel_human]
#21796678 - 06/12/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: E novo is not easy to clone but it can be done.
I'm with you Stonehenge. I've tried countless of times and failed all the times.
fogponics cloners are easy to build, and if something WILL clone, then a fogponics cloner will make it a no brainer.
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Re: can coca plant grow in the U.S.? [Re: rxb]
#21796715 - 06/12/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you have a bad fungus lurking then it will fail. Sterilize all you want but the fungus gets in.
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