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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Brahms439]
    #21726964 - 05/26/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

we collectively think the oven method is luck based.


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21726968 - 05/26/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

first of all. and this is huge.

your kitchen... my kitchen... every kitchen everywhere... is FULLLLLLL of contams

and second of all.

if you took a vote... people wouldnt even trust the bunson burner tek... and that WAAAAAAY more proven than the oven tek.. theres less to go wrong... people did it in labs for YEARS.... and yet...

its easy enough to fuck up.


the oven... is even less likely to work. most people who see it work say "you got lucky" not "great sterile tek"


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21726973 - 05/26/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Didnt the shroomerys own roger rabbit make those vids? And too much spores nah bro all that does is make your jars colonize faster and waste spores and the general rule of thumb is after the first 72 hours you dont see any contams your pretty safe but always be watching


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21726979 - 05/26/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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we collectively think the oven method is luck based.




Couldnt have put it better myself


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Zuto18]
    #21726980 - 05/26/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i do believe that IS roger rabbit!!

BUT WAIT THERES MORE (not really)


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21726989 - 05/26/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

BILLY MAYS HERE I SWALLOWED THE CAPS LOCK KEY WHEN I WAS 4 BUY RRS VIDS AND YOU YES YOU COULD GROW YOUR OWN MAGIC MUSHROOMS TO TRIP BALLS


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21726993 - 05/26/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So I can't get the paper tape tonight, but I should take of the foil regardless right?



Odd that you said it would be the first 72 hours, its been two week and I didn't notice a contamination until a day or two ago... hopefully thats a good sign for the rest.

so what method do you recommend the glove box?

Midwest grow kits strongly recommended the oven method,,, starting to be disappointed in them :frown:


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Brahms439]
    #21727025 - 05/26/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah take foil off open your contamed jar *outside* and check for a layer of dry vermiculate if you have one tape is not required the dry verm will keep any nastys out unless you disturb it alot and verm from the top gets into the substrate or if your dry verm gets moist (tin foil will cause this) and breeds contams


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Brahms439]
    #21727027 - 05/26/15 11:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

its not going to be at your drug store, MAYBE at a compounding pharmacy ORRRR a medical supply place.

micropore tape is $$ and not the same as paper tape.


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21727028 - 05/26/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

<-- will stop responding when the dilaudid kicks in :smile:


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Zuto18]
    #21727033 - 05/26/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The tin foil is to keeP water out of the jars when you pressure cook or steam bath in a pot after that it will only hinder you


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    #21727036 - 05/26/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Whats dilaudid?


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21727054 - 05/26/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

lol... I don't even know if I can tell if there is a layer of dried vermiculite.. it seems to be a different substance than the cake... i've seen the mycelium make its way to the top when taking off a lid at one point, not sure if that means anything. Wondering if maybe since the foil has been on for close to 2 weeks it may be to late to take off the foil, as you said, it may be moist now due to the foil and breeding contam...

calling it a night, you guys have been alot of help,

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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Zuto18]
    #21727055 - 05/26/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

like heroin in pill form.


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    #21727059 - 05/26/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

people talk shit about grow kits all day... because they are expensive and they fuck up and its easier to do it yourself.


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21727110 - 05/27/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nice lol i know now haha and yeah grow kits are shit when you do it yourself you can do it right and your actually doing it for the mushrooms benefit not for the sake of making money which its pretty much what kits are made for


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    #21730383 - 05/27/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I can assure you, this is for my benefit, as I LOVE mushrooms - the 6 trips I had in amsterdam when I spent a month there in 06 were so amazing... since then I've only found mushrooms that good twice, the rest of the time they were so so - like 4 or 5/10 I would say,,


So what method do you guys like if def not the oven?


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    #21730388 - 05/27/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

the reason I got a kit - is cause I had been putting off growing for so long, I got fed up and wanted to do it so badly I went for a kit, so I didnt have to spend alot of time rounding up alot of items I wouldn't know where to get or order from many different vendors online


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: Brahms439]
    #21730581 - 05/27/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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I can assure you, this is for my benefit, as I LOVE mushrooms - the 6 trips I had in amsterdam when I spent a month there in 06 were so amazing... since then I've only found mushrooms that good twice, the rest of the time they were so so - like 4 or 5/10 I would say,,


So what method do you guys like if def not the oven?




SAB = still air box.

in those videos i showed you, RR shows you how to make one basically.

but for speed and ease of use (you could give me a 5 mushroom rating :smile:)

you take one of those cheap plastic storage bins, you  get 2 PVC fitting that you can easily fit your arm through. 12 inch is sure to work but 8 inch will probably do if you arent the hulk :smile:

the fitting you want has the threads on the inside of one end with a plug that unscrews here is the plug

http://www.lowes.com/pd_574546-1814-PVC+00106++2000_0__?productId=50114797&cm_mmc=SCE_PLA_ONLY-_-RoughPlumbingElectrical-_-PvcAndAbsDwv-_-50114797:Charlotte_Pipe&CAWELAID=320011480001695140&kpid=50114797&CAGPSPN=pla&k_clickID=6e76c426-27e2-fac9-7335-00004311eea4&kpid=50114797

you can get them as one peice.


so you cut a hole in the side of the box to match 2 of those... (one for each arm you have)

then you use silicone to glue the pvc ports over the holes.


and you have a top notch SAB.

now you could just cut the holes and have a cheap ass SAB.

and you can put gloves in it and have a glove box. etc etc.

the basic idea is that you puteverything in the box spray it down with alcohol 91% close the lid and let it sit a while ... so the alcohol kills off everything...

then spray down your arms... reach in and do what you need to do.

and for the most part that works.


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the PREFERED method is a laminar flow hood.

which is basically a really expencive hepa filter with an hvac blower on it.

you work in front of the blower and the clean air pushes past the jars, so nothing really gets IN them.

this works really well.

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you can also build a clean room, (ever watch dexter?)


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Edited by rxb (05/27/15 10:28 PM)


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Re: First time grower looking for some help - thanks [Re: rxb]
    #21730613 - 05/27/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

now i like to work with grain jars that have a air exchange, and a self healing injection port (SHIP).

and you can buy those pre made, you can buy just the lid, or you can buy a jar which is already sterilized with grain in it ready to go.

i prefer the jars at out-grow.com

now if you buy his jars... and 1 tube of HIGHTEMP SILICONE. then you can reload them with grain put them in a pressure cooker and use them forever. (basically).

so you get those jars, and a spore syringe, you shake the shit out of the spore syringe, and then you flame the needle, and put it through the SHIP. you put 1/10th of a cc to 1 cc in the jar... more doesnt mean better or faster (in my opinion)... what you need is a couple drops. thats thousands of spores... and 2 would be enough.

i suggest you get your spores from someplace LIKE sporeworks but NOT sporeworks ... because sporeworks has the best damned syringes.

the reason i suggest that you DONT use sporeworks (read between the lines)... is that those syringes are ONLY for use for looking at under the microscope.... so you should find someplace which DOESNT say that which is ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE SPOREWORKS.

so, you inject the syringe into the jar, put in a few drops, take it out, and then use red high temp rtv silicone (you get it at the autoparts place) you want red or copper.

and you put a dab over the SHIP... so that it lasts forever. (if you always add a fresh dot of silicone...you dont wear it out.

then you wait a few days until you see about a quarter sized white patch... and you SHAKE THE CRAP OUT OF THE JAR....

then wait 3 days... and shake the crap out of the jar. (you want to move the fluffyness around as much as possible).

then you wait 3 days (you get the idea, keep doing this until the jar colonizes all over the jar evenly at once...

so for the rest of this i'm going to suggest you use mexicana gilandoi spores... because they are the best thing you can grow... now i believe you must be someplace its legal to grow these and if not , DONT DO IT... i'd never tell you to break the law.

so, after you shake the last time, wait 2 months.

then you want a grow tray and 50/50 soil/compost from the garden store.

you dump out your grains, you take out all the truffles (round blobs of hard mycellium)...

and you put those in the fridge (you should get about 150 grams which is about 10 servings).

then you take the rest of the grain, put it in the grow tray, cover it with about 1/4 inch of 50/50... and water it... then put it in a SGFC (SHOT GUN FRUITING CHAMBER)... or any other fruiting chamber with high humidity ... which you've had plenty of time to make.

and wait until mushrooms grow...


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