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prayer and love
    #21725434 - 05/26/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

the power of prayer is not secret;

what are your experiences ?

restore, heal, recreate beauty,

are my thoughts in general,

thanks :smile:


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Re: prayer and love [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21725546 - 05/26/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have explored many different spiritual methods, many of which have helped me greatly in various ways. But prayer is always the one I go back to, prayer is always the one that seems to continually deepen and benefit me.


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Re: prayer and love [Re: Deviate]
    #21729801 - 05/27/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yeah that's true; i think you can also say there's a fairly direct correlation between how much time we spend in prayer and how real god is to us. . like, lasting peace is something we strive for until we have it, we get more settled into it, and begin to experience the further and higher levels of peace, eventually, sooner or later, we notice more and more that it's boundless.


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Re: prayer and love [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21729858 - 05/27/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

i like prayer :smile:

i like what one teacher said - that gratitude is the highest form of prayer, which makes sense to me :smile:

here's the video where he explains it :smile:



that said, praying for the collective welfare of humanity is quite powerful and quite uplifting too :smile:


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Re: prayer and love [Re: deff]
    #21729957 - 05/27/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I believe if you have good intentions in your mind towards anything, you are already 'praying'


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Re: prayer and love [Re: Thaj]
    #21729975 - 05/27/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i agree :smile: :thumbup:


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Re: prayer and love [Re: deff]
    #21729990 - 05/27/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I agree also, and according to Matt Kahn (and me, in that I very much agree with him) intention in the missing piece in the spiritual journey for many people.

You can become very awake without setting your intention. But try setting your intention for something like love, or to be Christ-like and see how quickly things change. If you want to really get the love-bliss part of enlightenment, you need to work with all areas of yourself, including intention. Simply recognizing awareness as many teachers are teaching today, does not generally lead to this state. It leads to an inferior form of enlightenment, which can be very peaceful but is nowhere near the love-bliss exhibited by the true masters.


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Re: prayer and love [Re: Deviate]
    #21729999 - 05/27/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

nicely said Deviate and I agree very much with that :smile:


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    #21731192 - 05/28/15 04:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nice thread all round :smile: Will and intention are the keys for sure. I like what's been said about gratitude and positive intention being forms of prayer. I've practiced bhakti before my usual meditation for a while, but it's easy to just confine things like that to meditation or designated "prayer" time, when in fact all of life should be treated as a meditation or prayer :smile: Always working on integrating that into my life more and more.


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The day we start giving Love instead of seeking Love, we will have re-written our whole destiny.
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Re: prayer and love [Re: PocketLady]
    #21737452 - 05/29/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:smile:

absolutely.


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Re: prayer and love [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21741055 - 05/30/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The most powerful prayer is one where Love flows both ways.


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Re: prayer and love [Re: Asante]
    #21741133 - 05/30/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

that is exceptionally beautiful :sun:

thank you for that. :smile:


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Re: prayer and love [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #21742346 - 05/30/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The word prayer has been misunderstood over time. In the scriptures, the testament; prayer was a way how the people had begged or pleaded with God. It is more like a sincere request. Over time, people had thought that it is a ritual chant that you must say to God daily.


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Re: prayer and love [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #21752014 - 06/02/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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it is a fascinating subject. . .


a good point is - how to really see the universe clearly?



dear thay expressed, it is too simple to be either optimistic or pessimistic; the goal is to see it as it really is;



and definitely that's the central aim in zen;



to pray for gain or to pray for health and understanding?



what I have come to understand it is more simply like a breath. . . and to pray for health and understanding is best. . .



because to pray for more power is silly, as we're in flux with the universe, that's enough power, haha.



and since self and other are one/ death and life are one, etc., it really throws the rest out the window.




i do feel it is simply asking the divine for love, mostly. . . the eternal question - where are you god, where are you love?


and the eternal answer,


'i am here, love'




most simply i feel prayer is breath.


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