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spacechildo
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: jblz86]
#21725319 - 05/26/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I don't see the point of fanning a monotub, I'd try to tinker some water onto the sub to support the massive pinset.
sometimes it helps specially with the amount of pins OP got there
all fanning a tub would do is lower the RH and promote more evap off a substrate that needs all the water it can get to support those fruits.
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spacechildo said: I don't see the point of fanning a monotub, I'd try to tinker some water onto the sub to support the massive pinset.
I was thinking the same thing, so I poured around 1/2 cup down the sides of the tub this morning to avoid directly soaking the top of the substrate. My main concern is that the sub will run out of nutrients trying to support all of those pins, and won't have enough left in the tank to see them mature into fruits. We'll see I guess.
dont worry about nutrients, theres more than enough nutes left in a sub that's exhausted anyway, pouring water on top of the substrate is totally fine IME and so is side-watering it!
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Aero]
#21725321 - 05/26/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I don't see the point of fanning a monotub, I'd try to tinker some water onto the sub to support the massive pinset.
sometimes it helps specially with the amount of pins OP got there
I do fan it once a day, just quickly enough to just clear out the built up CO2 and get some fresh air in there, but I don't do it for long because I don't want the tub to lose too much moisture.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Aero]
#21725322 - 05/26/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I don't see the point of fanning a monotub, I'd try to tinker some water onto the sub to support the massive pinset.
sometimes it helps specially with the amount of pins OP got there
Sorry I don't understand, what is it helping? He has a killer pinset and they look healthy, conditions are not a problem and it appears dialed in.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21725336 - 05/26/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Okay I think this needs to be said. Fanning a monotub does nothing to lower or prevent CO2 buildup. The only purpose to fanning is to exchange the humid air with dry air. This is done to promote evaporation which is a pinning trigger and helps accelerate the evaporation of water on caps preventing psudomonias. Thats it.
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21725345 - 05/26/15 03:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I don't see the point of fanning a monotub, I'd try to tinker some water onto the sub to support the massive pinset.
sometimes it helps specially with the amount of pins OP got there
Sorry I don't understand, what is it helping? He has a killer pinset and they look healthy, conditions are not a problem and it appears dialed in.
when the fruits grow, they need more air, thats what i meant, i even take the lid off for an hour daily to give them more air, thicker meatier mushies
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Aero]
#21725350 - 05/26/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: I don't see the point of fanning a monotub, I'd try to tinker some water onto the sub to support the massive pinset.
sometimes it helps specially with the amount of pins OP got there
Sorry I don't understand, what is it helping? He has a killer pinset and they look healthy, conditions are not a problem and it appears dialed in.
when the fruits grow, they need more air, thats what i meant, i even take the lid off for an hour daily to give them more air, thicker meatier mushies 
Dial the poly in looser if they need more air. Drying the sub out by excessive fanning or leaving lids off is not going to do cubensis any favors.
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21725379 - 05/26/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dial the poly in looser if they need more air. Drying the sub out by excessive fanning or leaving lids off is not going to do cubensis any favors.
i use tubs with no holes, no problem though
OP u rock, let them mature u gonna have a beautiful canopy
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Aero]
#21725834 - 05/26/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pin Porn for sure!
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professorFATTYCAP
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Alkohaul]
#21726429 - 05/26/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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he likes to fan his tub. big deal . as little as its getting done .it aint hurting or helping so carry on the fuggn guys gotta b doin sumpn rite
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Pastywhyte
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professorFATTYCAP said: he likes to fan his tub. big deal . as little as its getting done .it aint hurting or helping so carry on the fuggn guys gotta b doin sumpn rite
If Areo wants to fan his tub with no holes that's his business. But too imply to someone new that it is providing meaningful FAE in a properly built, well dialed in mono is bad information. I remember a while ago some noob aborted his whole pinset by fanning his mono 5 times a day. He wasn't misting because he read that monos don't need misting. But he either read somewhere or someone told him fanning a mono was important and he pretty much lost the whole first flush. Because of bad information. This is not about being nice or feeling "shroomey". This is about teaching good info and practices. If people want to spread bullshit information and not get called out on it they can fuck off to mycotopia.
We don't fan anything for FAE.
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LocN9ne
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21726561 - 05/26/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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^^^Amen brother.
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jblz86
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: LocN9ne]
#21731214 - 05/28/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So, it's been a few days, so I figured i'd post a quick update. I checked in on the tub this morning, and as you can see from the picture below, it seems like the amount of pins have actually increased, but none have seemed to have gotten any bigger. This one's a real head scratcher, as i've never had a grow have this many pins, for this long, without any of them growing to maturity by now. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to get this baby to finally fruit?
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: jblz86]
#21731231 - 05/28/15 05:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well they do look marginally bigger compared to the first pic. I am going to caution you right now that with a pinset that dense the sub is goin to have a tough time supporting them all. Prepare for the fruits to be a little smaller and for aborts. I suggest that you mist a bit as your going to want to get every bit of extra water possible to them. Pouring some water in the edge of the liner would be a good thing too. Right now that is going to be the main factor, can the sub supply enough water to support that.
Edit: while its not a very good pic from what I can see its looking dry. Give them a good mist for sure, they need it.
Edited by Pastywhyte (05/28/15 05:13 AM)
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21741318 - 05/30/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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any updates man?
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jblz86
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Aero]
#21743094 - 05/30/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Aero said: any updates man?
Indeed I do. I took Pastywhyte's advice and added more water to the sub. I poured around 3 cups of H2O in there and let it sit for a few hours and then poured off the excess, which amounted to around 1 cup. That seemed to do the trick, as some of the pins have started to take off:

The majority of the pins are still small, but i'm hoping as the bigger ones mature and get harvested, that at least some of the remaining pins will begin to mature also. Here's hoping.
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: jblz86]
#21743116 - 05/30/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That looks a lot better. I think ya saved it
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jblz86
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21743162 - 05/30/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: That looks a lot better. I think ya saved it 
Much obliged. I hope a good deal of those pins reaches maturity, but I have a feeling that this tub is going to be a one-shot johnny; i'll probably only be able to get one crazy flush out of it before it craps out. But, we'll see. I'll keep you all posted as things develop.
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: jblz86]
#21750149 - 06/01/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Time for another check-in. Things seem to be proceeding forward, if not smoothly. A handful of the pins began to mature after the addition of H2O a few days ago, and are almost nearly ready. Some fruits are also starting to swell underneath their caps, which is odd, but it doesn't seem to be contaminates. The only other thing to report is that I had to unfortunately remove some of the pins around and underneath the polyfill holes, as the pin clusters were so thick under the holes that they were beginning to push the polyfill out. Sacrifice the few to save the many, I suppose.
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LocN9ne
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: jblz86]
#21750283 - 06/01/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can't help but laugh... God damn lol...
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jblz86
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Re: Too many pins? (Pin Porn or Pin Problems?) [Re: LocN9ne]
#21750303 - 06/01/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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LocN9ne said: I can't help but laugh... God damn lol...
Was it something I said?
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