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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21726655 - 05/26/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The one thing that sucks about being skinny is that you get cold easily. Like when I wear a t-shirt and there is a cold wind in the fall I start shivering and the heavier people with more cushion don't even notice the dip in temperature and are nicely insolated. Same goes for being at the pool.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21726672 - 05/26/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've been 140 lbs. 5'10" since I was 18 or so. I'm 24 now. It's more about genetics than anything.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21726677 - 05/26/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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The one thing that sucks about being skinny is that you get cold easily. Like when I wear a t-shirt and there is a cold wind in the fall I start shivering and the heavier people with more cushion don't even notice the dip in temperature and are nicely insolated. Same goes for being at the pool.




There rarely comes a day I don't wear sweaters. It's a comfort thing for me but I also grew up in Alaska so it was pretty much required.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #21727172 - 05/27/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know how it is elsewhere, but where I live the fat is self-inflicted.
Lot's of junk food, pre-made (crap) meals and fatty foods.
They complain healthy food is too expensive :facepalm:
In reality they just can't cook for shit and have no imagination, addicted to the food they ate as teenagers!

Seriously, whenever I have to go into poverty mode to survive, my food actually becomes healthier!
It also becomes a lot more boring, and I think that that is the heart of the problem for some.

Edit:
Also, if you want to lose weight you've gotta move your body!
I know two guys, and they have these awful wives I have to be nice to... fat, of course, and of course it is not their fault at all, how dare people body shame them etc. etc. you have heard this before.
The thing is, and everybody in my group of friends knows it and makes fun of it when the husbands are out of earshot, these women spend all fucking day on the couch with facebook or their gameboys or whatever, go to mcDonalds twice a week and can't cook for shit.

Now I do know there are fat people who are not like that at all, some are struggeling real hard to lose it, and I have nothing but respect for that.
That takes some real hardcore determination, you know?
If you see a fatty work hard to become more human-shaped, then encourage him or her as much as you can! These people take charge of their own lives and are almost of an entire different species then those fat fucks that have just given up and stuff themselves all day long.

Edit2: some people at school & work give me shit for eating fruit every day. "Hey Turtletotem, trying to get healthy? Quit smoking first AHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
Bastards. I eat fruit because it is fucking amazing, it's like candy that also quenches your thirst and is cheap as fuck.

tl;dr: Turtletotem is feeling bitter today, and takes it out on fat people.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21727393 - 05/27/15 04:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You dont give up, you ignore the issue, you turn a blind eye until you can't dodge it any longer.

In my minds eye I'm not nearly as fat as I am. Even if I look in the mirror, it doesnmt quite show me that.

In photos I do see it because they are an outsider perspective.

I eat the wrong things in the wrong amounts in the wronmg times of the day because I CRAVE physical pleasure, which I have very little of.

Its now that I took up swimming, that I'm getting physical pleasure in other ways and I'm starting to moderate and alter my food intake. I swim 6 days a week now, 2-3 hours at a time. It makes me so happy to be weightless in that water, to be able to move without pain.

At 360 pounds your body becomes a medieval torture device. Nothing works any more. Any position you put your body in hurts. Theres no solace. You are a social outcast. You weigh twice what you should and its next to impossible getting it off.

An athlete told me proudly he could lift 350 pounds. Well whoop tee fucking doo I have to do that every time I get up out of my chair. That weight rests on each foot and knee with every step I take. Its torture. True Hell. "exercise and the weight will come off" Well you strap three sixty pound weight disks to your body and you go and do that dude. Someone suggesting me I'd go jogging should be shot, its an insult, that degree of ignorance of what I have to cope with. I'm happy to be able to walk a quarter mile. You sports types probably couldnt. I don't want pity, but I want acknowledgement of the cross I bear, regardless of how I came to be in this situation.

But I'm gonna do it dammit. By God I will move that mountain or die trying.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Asante]
    #21727560 - 05/27/15 06:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Swimming is a great option! I have a friend who is about your size and because of medical problems hes decided to try and lose weight, I immediately suggested swimming because it's a great way to burn calories without him putting too much pressure on his knees (I mean is it really worth it if he fucks his knees up in the process of trying to get healthy).

The extra 15lbs I've gained being pregnant takes a lot out of me and makes everything twice as hard to do so I really feel for both of you guys...I can't imagine what you must go through every day.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Asante]
    #21727744 - 05/27/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Asante, just give up sugar, flour and wheat and those pounds will drop off, I promise. It doesn't happen overnight, you know that. It happens over a couple years but you see it on the scale right away, soon you see it in the mirror. Later, other people see it too and comment about how you are losing weight. I would have weighed just as much if I had kept with my garbage diet but I changed.

Sugar is addictive, it gives you a rush and you crave it. Once someone quits sugar, they turn immediately to flour products; bread, rolls, pasta, pizza, etc. Flour turns to sugar within minutes of eating it. Quit the sugar and flour, don't load up on fatty foods like cheese or nuts and you break the addiction. The cravings go away within a couple days. Eat veggies, whole grains, fruit, lean meats. No macdonalds, no diet drinks, no sodas, no fruit juice, no sweets or bread. It works, I promise. You don't starve, you feel better and the weight drops off. Eat all the veggies you want.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21728412 - 05/27/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, cutting the sugars and highly processed carbs definitely helps. Sugary beverages including sweetened coffee and juices too (many juices have more sugars than soda. Fruit is Healthy, fruit juice, not so much). Even, "diet", beverages throw your pancreas into insulin production, ufcking up the works on how your blood sugar gets negotiated around yer body.

One thing I've done that's greatly helped my weight loss is getting all my calories for the day in an eleven hour period, so that in the 12-13 hours that I'm not eating my body eventually burns through the sugars in my bloodstream from food it's digested that day and is forced to go into some of its reserves. Rodent studies with intermittent daily fasting have shown increase of muscle to fat ratio even without decreased caloric intake. I know humans and rodents obviously aren't the same critters, but it's something worth bearing in mind.

Take care, Asante
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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: DrMambo]
    #21728692 - 05/27/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If I was fat, I'd immediately start going to the gym and eating healthy.  Looking in the mirror would be motivation enough...  :lol:


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: spixce]
    #21728707 - 05/27/15 01:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It would be the worst when you fat starts spilling out of your waist band for the "mushroom top" look.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21728715 - 05/27/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The worst is when you have to wash between fat rolls so you don't get crease grease.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21728725 - 05/27/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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It would be the worst when you fat starts spilling out of your waist band for the "mushroom top" look.



Oh, if it was that bad I'd just use amps or bath salts to lose weight.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: spixce]
    #21728855 - 05/27/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

divorce and the struggle that arose from having to start over again in my thirties has not been kind to me. let me rephrase that: i haven't been kind to myself over the past five years due to my personal life. i was huge through high school and then adopted a healthy lifestyle in my twenties. after about mid-2010 i just gave up. now it seems like i'm so busy that i don't have time to give it the serious go i need to. i know that's wrong headed, but it's where i'm at. i'm not giving up though. i'm surrounded by love here. i have more friends than i can keep up with and a beautiful girlfriend (who's a nutrition and fitness freak) that's been in my life for almost two years now. i may be fat but at least i'm not alone. that and i have a ton of kinky sex on the reg.

but yeah, getting back in shape is one of the pieces that is going to have to come together not just for me to live up to my potential, but for me to survive past middle age. i'm so not down with having weight related issues, which thankfully i've been able to avoid for now.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: millzy]
    #21729596 - 05/27/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I keep telling people all you have to do is give up sugar, flour and wheat. But will they do it? No, they would rather cut off a leg than eat healthy. They will pay money, will take any sort of pill, have any operation but will not give up garbage food.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21729674 - 05/27/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I don' exercise besides taking my dog on walks, eat junk food multiple times a weak and am super skinny. My waist size for my pants is like a 31 not sure what I weigh.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21729714 - 05/27/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You also have to realize that family traditions and ways of eating/cooking pass down generation to generation. Sometimes being big is just, inherited so to speak. I mean, if your a child and your parents are big and only give you food that basically makes you big, you're bound to be big.

As Ncogneato mentioned, watch Fed Up on netflix or rent it or something. It's a pretty good look at the reality of how sugary food is kinda everywhere, just like how sex sells products.

Shicks wack. Ever since I saw that film it made me realize how candy at stores are always at child height. I always saw that but never thought anything of it. It's like ddammmmnnnnnnn maaaannnnnn....  :deepman:


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Spoorman] * 1
    #21729742 - 05/27/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to check that out. I noticed this just today when my one year old wanted a sucker when checking out at the store. I thought to myself "hmm that's clever to put it at kid height"

I'm a bitch about the kid having sugar though so he didn't get his sucker...I didn't buy all those fruits and veggies for nothing damnit.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21729848 - 05/27/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm going to check that out. I noticed this just today when my one year old wanted a sucker when checking out at the store. I thought to myself "hmm that's clever to put it at kid height"

I'm a bitch about the kid having sugar though so he didn't get his sucker...I didn't buy all those fruits and veggies for nothing damnit.



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I keep telling people all you have to do is give up sugar, flour and wheat. But will they do it? No, they would rather cut off a leg than eat healthy. They will pay money, will take any sort of pill, have any operation but will not give up garbage food.



sometimes people enjoy their food too much to give it up. But also, a lot of foods that are marketed as healthy are not healthy at all. That was really my personal problem. There is also little discussion of the right kind of fats etc.


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: topdog82]
    #21729865 - 05/27/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Lol I'm a mom but thanks


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Re: Do fat people just give up? [Re: chicksgrowtoo]
    #21729873 - 05/27/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

With the name "chicksgrowtoo" I thought maybe everyone else assumed you were the mother? hahahaha, just me maybe.


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