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Offlinevacantrain
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Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me
    #21723363 - 05/26/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hi guys,

I guess I feel kind of lonely IRL because I can't talk about these wondrous mushrooms and their secrets.  Either because I have to keep it quiet, or my friends just haven't tried them and can't understand what I'm talking about.  So I was very excited for a friend to try them for the first time today. (I stayed sober to watch him in case his trip went south)

I tried setting the setting up the same way I did my last trip, but he wouldn't stop munching on a donut and apple after ingesting the shrooms and before he started tripping.  I tried telling him I would hang out and he could talk to me if he needed to, but he said that would be weird so he was talking up the wall right up until he started tripping, then he focused more but still talked a bit.

I guess I was too controlling and hoped he could experience it the same way I do, I feel like I've been beyond experiences that language can adequately describe on shrooms... he mostly wanted to confess something to me, and his entire trip was about one thing.

Is this selfish?  I feel like he could've gotten so much more out of it if he hadn't eaten like I told him too, and if he had let the shrooms talk instead of me and him talking.  I set an entire day aside which isn't easy to do with my schedule, and had hoped to talk about some of the far out things I've seen, but we talked about some sexual hangup of his instead. He was relieved to get it off his chest though, which makes me feel like a bigger jerk for being so disappointed.

Now I am hesitant to let my partner try next week.  I wonder if shrooms are just 'my thing' and certain types of brains just don't get all of the magic?  I am surprised cus this guy is a maaajor stoner.

Any advice welcome, I feel weirdly guilty for my feelings right now.


Edited by vacantrain (05/26/15 01:45 AM)


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: vacantrain]
    #21723386 - 05/26/15 02:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Dude, you cant control peoples experiences, no matter how hard you try, and the harder you try the more awkward the entire experience would be, you did a good thing in being there with him, but, are YOU with people when you trip?
I know its a safety procedure to have a tripping person with sober people, but honestly I think the real breakthrough experiences happen while you're alone or when everyone you're with is tripping (A "trip fairy" can be a big help, someone who is sober with a group of trippers or just remember that the laws of physics and whatnot still work the same under the influence of a drug and try not to get caught up in negative thoughts, acceptance is key).
Dont pressure anyone into things, because it might give them a negative outlook of the thing that wasnt there beforehand.
Talking and trying to express ideas and profound thoughts can be one of the hardest things to do on mushrooms, and when you're making small talk it just drowns everything out, merely appreciate each others company, and the real experience will take place.

Maybe I'm rambling


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Though the night is dark, the light is in you, its always there, and its always in the same place, but the shades and colors obscure the path. You will make it out alive. You will not be broken. Dont fret, acceptance is key.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: Triponerzz]
    #21723393 - 05/26/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

And yeah, honestly, and I dont mean to upset or demean you in any way, you do seem somewhat selfish, in that you tried to force your experience onto him, and the way that you're feeling about it, wherein you dont want to give them to your partner because they might just be "your thing"
Why dont you and your partner take them together?

And the fact that you're upset because you took a day out of your busy schedule to attempt to give this person this experience and it didnt go your way, is pretty selfish in my eyes


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Though the night is dark, the light is in you, its always there, and its always in the same place, but the shades and colors obscure the path. You will make it out alive. You will not be broken. Dont fret, acceptance is key.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: Triponerzz]
    #21723484 - 05/26/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone gets the magic, just in different ways. YOu just gotta let them do their own thing. Some people won't like mushrooms because they're "weird" or different or just have bad experience. My girlfriend loves shrooms,(even though she just hated actually eating them).

I've been there where you're expecting them to feel the same way, and trust me they do, just not in the super excited way you expect. With your partner, I suggest you just trip with them on a low-medium dose.

Also one of my friends I gave some shrooms to, said he felt like he was a whale. A few weeks after that, I gave him 4 grams in tea, and he said everything was so distorted and crazy. His drool became spiritual essence... and he had to spread it :lol: Luckily he was alone.

Don't watch over someone tripping, it's much more fun just to be there as a friend, or to do something with them. Trying to monitor them only sets you up for disappointment, Because then you're looking for something you won't get.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: Achillita]
    #21723506 - 05/26/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My best trip was when. I was alone. My first trip. Then I had a bad trip in the middle of summer in a room with no ac hot as fuck, full of my friends who were tripping also.I started sweating and felt like everyone was staring at me and  I knew they were all feeling my bad vibes and I ended up just walking home tripping. It was crazy. But I just Couldn't stop looking at people noticinv me.. And to this day, I dont think I could trip with those same people again. Lol

But it's cool don't judge people for them having there unique trips. Then you won't feel bad.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: vacantrain]
    #21724458 - 05/26/15 11:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Me and my close friend trip sat a group of 3 guys one time and we all did the same thing.. went for a walk.. played with glow sticks, came back home chilled out on the couch and just talked.. but one of the guys tripping was being completely effected in a different way from the other two guys..  he wasn't listening in on the conversation going around the room instead he was in his own world.. and he kept cutting in mid sentence of someone talking to say something about his how long he could fuck a chick. It was really weird because he wouldn't shut up about it for the next hour.. he would literally say the same sentence over and over..and we told him to chill many times.. and even tried listening to him, but he would keep going in a circle..

From what i know tripping effects everyone different regardless if you are in the same set and setting as your other buddies tripping.. everyone has there own tolerance levels which controls the levels of the trip.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: metalman]
    #21724539 - 05/26/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

OP I wouldn't say you're selfish.  You had a good time and wanted that for your friend.  Rather or not they ate probably affected their experience a lot less than their mindset, which is outside of anyone's control.


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To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

It's rather embarrassing to have given one's entire life to pondering the human predicament and to find that in the end one has little more to say than, 'Try to be a little kinder.' ~Aldous Huxley


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21724570 - 05/26/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

OP dont listen to anyone who is saying you are selfish. They are idiots. What you did was selfless..actually.

but yeah, you just need to remember that there are levels to the psychedelic experience. First your friend must confront certain things in his life, then after that's taken care of he will then hopefully graduate to the "far out" aspect of mushrooms.

Remember...the mushroom gives you what you need, not what you want.

good luck and good for you trying to get your friends into the game.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21724995 - 05/26/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I know how you feel because my friends don't trip and they don't seem to really approve of it when I talk about it, so I mostly keep it to myself unless I get really drunk. It sucks.

I feel really lucky though because I am dating a cool girl who is very interested in talking about it. So my need is fulfilled! It would still be awesome if my friends would step away from their prejudice. I think they fear themselves.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: bluegill]
    #21725010 - 05/26/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

All my friends will hear me and listen when I babble about psychedelia. They like it and enjoy it, especially one of my friends. We'll discuss it for a while.

But no one wants to listen when I go talking about mycology and how mushrooms are cool as shit. They'll listen for a while, but once i start talking on how it works, they just completely lose focus.


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: Achillita]
    #21725129 - 05/26/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Achillita said:
All my friends will hear me and listen when I babble about psychedelia. They like it and enjoy it, especially one of my friends. We'll discuss it for a while.

But no one wants to listen when I go talking about mycology and how mushrooms are cool as shit. They'll listen for a while, but once i start talking on how it works, they just completely lose focus.




I know, right? I posted a Paul Stamets TEDtalk on Facebook and I feel like NOBODY watched it!


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: Achillita]
    #21725177 - 05/26/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yea my friends I used to chill with all the time , they pop molly , pills, do meth and takes fucked up opiates like fentanyl all the time but wont dare to drop a tab :bubbles:

tried a couple time converting them didn't really work :shrug:


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Re: Disappointing, friend not as into cubes as me [Re: bluegill]
    #21725294 - 05/26/15 03:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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bluegill said:
Quote:

Achillita said:
All my friends will hear me and listen when I babble about psychedelia. They like it and enjoy it, especially one of my friends. We'll discuss it for a while.

But no one wants to listen when I go talking about mycology and how mushrooms are cool as shit. They'll listen for a while, but once i start talking on how it works, they just completely lose focus.




I know, right? I posted a Paul Stamets TEDtalk on Facebook and I feel like NOBODY watched it!





even I got bored with that specific talk :lol:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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