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fucksnap
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turned away/scared off of psychedelics
#21723039 - 05/25/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi guys, I would like to hear your thoughts on the following.
Eight months ago I had a terrible shroom trip that left me with panic attacks for a while. That whole trip was one big panic attack but it ended very well - when the effects subsided and I realized I hadn’t in fact become retarded - and left me with an afterglow along with the random panic attacks. They subsided.
I wasn’t scared of tripping at ALL before that trip, and in fact was very confident with it, hence why I tripped in a terrible setting. The trip was going very fine despite being strong until I made something dumb and it all went down south.
I felt like I had some matters left unattended - despite it ending well - and had to trip again to go back and pick up anything I had left on that other side, if that makes any sense. Now, not underestimating the power of set and setting, when the perfect ones came, I jumped into it.
Me and my girlfriend split a tab of acid. I had huge pupils but threshold effects while she had a very strong visual experience. I shrugged it off as me getting the smaller half at the time. Knowing that I would not have another chance to trip any time soon and my plan had failed, I got really upset for a while, but then got over myself and accompanied my gf through her trip. As she described the visual effects it’d make me nervous: I was scared of tripping.
In my head, I still had to do it, face tripping again, so the following day, knowing I would not have the chance to trip any time soon and would be obsessed and upset with it, I took a whole tab of acid. Although not feeling extremely positive (disappointed from the previous night) I was feeling brave and would face and accept everything the acid would throw at me, after all, I was in a totally free setting and had a sober girlfriend to take care of me, unlike my shroom trip. I expected to be immersed in visuals and mindfuck (I know it’s not a great attitude), face, accept them to ‘cure’ my fear of tripping, but was underwhelmed for the first two hours. My pupils were huge and things were a bit off though, so I realized I was being stupid and got over myself again and decided to, uh, accept what the acid was throwing at me, enjoy the ride.
It was a beautiful trip once I let that go. Beautiful is the only word I can use to describe it. Anything scary during the trip I would face. I realized I wasn’t afraid of anything. I thought, ‘hell, I could trip like this forever’. I say this because this thought that seemed to scared me the hell away from psychedelics after that bad shroom trip. So, I thought even though I wasn’t tripping hard, I was not scared of tripping anymore. I got over that and even got some interesting insights about other things. The shroom trip was in the past. It was an amazing experience.
The thing is that since the trip (two days), I (my gf reports the same) have been feeling extremely sensitive and fragile, and again whenever I think of the trip, or my girlfriend mentions any visual aspects of her trip, again my heart races and I get extremely nervous. I don’t get it. The thought of tripping scares me again. What?
I’d like to hear some thoughts, be pointed in some direction, perhaps told that I am having an unhealthy attitude towards tripping, or anything.
Thanks
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larry.fisherman
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Re: turned away/scared off of psychedelics [Re: fucksnap]
#21723075 - 05/25/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You have a normal attitude towards your sanity.
What's your intentions? Are you trying to have fun or learn something from yourself? Do you have something you need to learn? Have you already learned it and not put it in to action?
My first mushroom trip was as you describe, a panic attack. I look back on it though and I love it. It was my experience.
If there's anything tripping has shown me, it's how to let those wayward feelings wash over you so you can look at things with a perspective outside yourself. Psychedelics are life on zoom 50(%). Everything is magnified. These feelings are likely ones you harbour on a daily basis and while you trip it's being manifested. The best thing you can do, if you're dedicated in getting the most out of this experience is to let things flow. Not only your feelings, but your thoughts, your desires. Take walks, do silly things. Explore, create. Meditate if you have to. Psychedelics can be a fickle thing but no matter how hard it can be for some to see the brighter side, there is indeed an oasis for us all if only you let a mirage make you happy.
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Matt87

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Re: turned away/scared off of psychedelics [Re: fucksnap]
#21723084 - 05/25/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's nothing to be afraid of. When I feel like I might have had to much psychedelics I like to lean on stories of people eating thumbprints of lsd or the guy on this site who recently ate 20 grams of shrooms. Just knowing I will be fine tomorrow has been enough to keep me feeling confident about tripping.
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Re: turned away/scared off of psychedelics [Re: fucksnap] 1
#21724418 - 05/26/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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my heart races and I get extremely nervous. I don’t get it. The thought of tripping scares me again. What?
A few years back I had some heavy, intense trips that included panic attacks, and for quite a long time afterwards I had that feeling of nervousness and increased heart rate whenever I was about to trip.
I think its almost a kind of automatic response; like the brain is recognizing a similar scenario to the one that caused anxiety / panic, and priming you for a kind of fight or flight response. You can alter your mindset so that you think in a positive way, but it's harder to shut down this kind of automatic response. In fact, it's probably better just to note the fact that you are feeling anxious, and mentally put it to one side. Anxious? Nervous? Well, so be it....
The important thing is that you trip because you want to trip, not to force yourself to confront anything. If you have an overwhelming meat grinder kind of trip, it makes sense to dial back the dosage and have a couple of trips that feel lighter, calmer, less heavy. Very quickly you can find yourself thinking "I wish this was a bit stronger, I'll take more next time" and your conscious fear of tripping is mostly gone....but the anxiety response may take longer to go away (i.e you are not consciously worried, but you still notice that background feeling of anxiety when you think about tripping).
I think the underlying nervousness about taking a large dose of shrooms is healthy; once you understand what they are capable of you don't forget it in a hurry. It's a balance between a kind of awe / respect / fear for the power of them, and a faith that the trip will ultimately lead you somewhere positive.
-------------------- I wrote that, but I meant something else
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Re: turned away/scared off of psychedelics [Re: Matt87]
#21729284 - 05/27/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: There's nothing to be afraid of. When I feel like I might have had to much psychedelics I like to lean on stories of people eating thumbprints of lsd or the guy on this site who recently ate 20 grams of shrooms. Just knowing I will be fine tomorrow has been enough to keep me feeling confident about tripping.
Is there a trip report on that? I have been interested in extremely high doses ever since watching a video on here about a guy advocating 20-30 gram doses.
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