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How amphetamine helps with ADD
    #21722173 - 05/25/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Would someone mind explaining this to me, or linking me to a good article about it? I'm having a hard time finding any. I understand it has to do with neurotransmitters, mainly dopamine, but I would like to have a better understanding as to why, and what the brain chemistry of an ADD sufferer is like to begin with.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21722221 - 05/25/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

People with ADHD have naturally lower levels of dopamine. I think meds bring the dopamine to a normal level.


That's my understanding of it anyways


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21722417 - 05/25/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Was your mom a smoker?
Has your dad ever used drugs before you were conceived?
Were you given pills to calm you down in school when you were younger?

THEN YOU HAVE A.D.D!


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #21722432 - 05/25/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

While it is seriously over prescribed, I too would love to know what the chemical imbalance is for A.D.D. and A.D.H.D. Two different ones many people mingle together. I'm sure since hyperactivity is a symptom of one then it would have to be a different type of imbalance right?


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21722437 - 05/25/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Only helps as long as u keep taking them. But once ur off them the add or wutever comes back , with a vengeance!


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Mescalean] * 1
    #21722449 - 05/25/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

they help you wether you have ADD or not, it doesnt matter

ADD and its subtypes are just a label for a group of certain behaviors, they more than likely have all types of different physiological/psychological causes.

dopamine could be a big part of it for most ADD people, but wether or not you have a legitimate attention problem you will focus better on amphetamine


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Adolin]
    #21722453 - 05/25/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Gresh said:
they help you wether you have ADD or not, it doesnt matter

ADD and its subtypes are just a label for a group of certain behaviors, they more than likely have all types of different physiological/psychological causes.

dopamine could be a big part of it for most ADD people, but wether or not you have a legitimate attention problem you will focus better on amphetamine



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Gresh said:
they help you wether you have ADD or not, it doesnt matter

ADD and its subtypes are just a label for a group of certain behaviors, they more than likely have all types of different physiological/psychological causes.

dopamine could be a big part of it for most ADD people, but wether or not you have a legitimate attention problem you will focus better on amphetamine




Ime I like weed better. Makes it easier to focus for me especially on more detail oriented shit. amphetamines makes me nauseas as fuck and sweat like a dirty animal


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Adolin]
    #21722462 - 05/25/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Gresh said:
they help you wether you have ADD or not, it doesnt matter

ADD and its subtypes are just a label for a group of certain behaviors, they more than likely have all types of different physiological/psychological causes.

dopamine could be a big part of it for most ADD people, but wether or not you have a legitimate attention problem you will focus better on amphetamine




agreed

thing is people that have moderate to severe adhd/add often have trouble being functional and medication is needed

I've got it myself and am not on meds... as I've got older I can cope better. It's def over prescribed but some people really do need it.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21722464 - 05/25/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I would say like 94% over prescribed
it's not even a thing in france


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Mescalean]
    #21722468 - 05/25/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mescalean said:
While it is seriously over prescribed, I too would love to know what the chemical imbalance is for A.D.D. and A.D.H.D. Two different ones many people mingle together. I'm sure since hyperactivity is a symptom of one then it would have to be a different type of imbalance right?



No doubt that it's over prescribed.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/11/02/chemical-imbalance-is-probably-not-behind-adhd/61512.html

This doesn't say much, but the conclusion made me :facepalm3:
Quote: "Study leader Barbara Sahakian, Ph.D., said the findings are significant because they show Ritalin improves attention and concentration regardless of whether people have ADHD or not." :noyoudidawet:


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21722479 - 05/25/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, it might not make everyone focus better, but in general they will


I was also diagnosed at a young age with inattentive subtype ADD. i was on concerta from 5-10th grade, eventually stopped because it wasnt doing anything anymore

i never went above 18mg concerta though, which is a really small dose


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21722480 - 05/25/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21722493 - 05/25/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
Quote:

Gresh said:
they help you wether you have ADD or not, it doesnt matter

ADD and its subtypes are just a label for a group of certain behaviors, they more than likely have all types of different physiological/psychological causes.

dopamine could be a big part of it for most ADD people, but wether or not you have a legitimate attention problem you will focus better on amphetamine




agreed

thing is people that have moderate to severe adhd/add often have trouble being functional and medication is needed

I've got it myself and am not on meds... as I've got older I can cope better. It's def over prescribed but some people really do need it.



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Drumdude27 said:
Quote:

Mescalean said:
While it is seriously over prescribed, I too would love to know what the chemical imbalance is for A.D.D. and A.D.H.D. Two different ones many people mingle together. I'm sure since hyperactivity is a symptom of one then it would have to be a different type of imbalance right?



No doubt that it's over prescribed.

http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/11/02/chemical-imbalance-is-probably-not-behind-adhd/61512.html

This doesn't say much, but the conclusion made me :facepalm3:
Quote: "Study leader Barbara Sahakian, Ph.D., said the findings are significant because they show Ritalin improves attention and concentration regardless of whether people have ADHD or not." :noyoudidawet:





Oh the smart ass in me wants to follow this just to prove a past family psychologist she is full of shit.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Mescalean]
    #21722499 - 05/25/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Do it bruh


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Drumdude27] * 1
    #21722500 - 05/25/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Drumdude27 said:
Would someone mind explaining this to me, or linking me to a good article about it? I'm having a hard time finding any. I understand it has to do with neurotransmitters, mainly dopamine, but I would like to have a better understanding as to why, and what the brain chemistry of an ADD sufferer is like to begin with.




My understanding is that the increased dopamine levels aid the user in finding boring, everyday activities more enjoyable. I know for me, when im speeding on vyvanse or other amphetamines, I can do math problems all fucking day. sober, not so much. When im speeding I find appreciation for formulas and the systematic way math works and explains so many things we take for granted in everyday life. It also stimulates the reward pathway which probably also has a lot to do with satisfactory behavior


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
    #21722504 - 05/25/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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People with ADHD have naturally lower levels of dopamine. I think meds bring the dopamine to a normal level.


That's my understanding of it anyways




That's pretty spot on.

A more cognitive-behavioral explanation would be that people with ADHD have under-active reward sensations, i.e. the types of activities that satisfy non-ADHD people enough for them to avoid distractions naturally, are not so satisfying with ADHD people. Cranking up the reward sensation by blunt force, through the release of dopamine, helps ADHD people get less distracted in their daily lives.

I have seen somebody in this thread saying that amphetamines help anybody, that is not exactly true. Amphetamines have a "rewarding" effect for anybody who takes them, but for somebody who experiences adequate reward sensations from the activities they are interested in to avoid pointless distractions, they are useless at best and potentially a gateway to drug abuse and addiction.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21722506 - 05/25/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Amphetamines make you better at everything.

Except eating, and sleeping.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21722548 - 05/25/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Amphetamines make you better at everything.

Except eating, and sleeping.




Not true. If you are under-rested or under-nourished, or under motivated for some other reason, they make you seem better at everything by making you less distracted by, for example, the need for food, sleep, or love and attention. This is why amphetamines are often useful in the short-term for military scenarios.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21722556 - 05/25/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Psychonautica said:
Amphetamines make you better at everything.

Except eating, and sleeping.




Not true. If you are under-rested or under-nourished, or under motivated for some other reason, they make you seem better at everything by making you less distracted by, for example, the need for food, sleep, or love and attention.



The individual and the dosage would determine which one of you is right.


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Re: How amphetamine helps with ADD [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21722560 - 05/25/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
Quote:

Psychonautica said:
Amphetamines make you better at everything.

Except eating, and sleeping.




Not true. If you are under-rested or under-nourished, or under motivated for some other reason, they make you seem better at everything by making you less distracted by, for example, the need for food, sleep, or love and attention. This is why amphetamines are often useful in the short-term for military scenarios.





eh they completely killed my appetite as a child /:


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