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Jenn
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unlimited sawdust... Question.
#21722166 - 05/25/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just got a hookup on free hardwood sawdust. A family I know has a cabinet business and gave me permission to take as much as I wanted. It's mainly oak but they sometimes use other types. I went and checked out the bin that the dust is fed to and it is clean and dry. In the event there were pine I'm there mixed with other wood, would this or anything else pose a reason for concern?
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insanemike

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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Jenn]
#21722200 - 05/25/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If it's mostly hardwood, it shouldn't pose a problem. What do you plan on growing with the sawdust?
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: insanemike]
#21722214 - 05/25/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think cedar might contain anti fungal properties. That being said, I'm sure I have seen fungus growing on downed cedar logs.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Climbhigher]
#21722251 - 05/25/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Reishi, lions mane, shiitake, oysters, wine caps etc. I plan to experiment a lot.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Jenn]
#21722281 - 05/25/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It should be fine unless there's excess cedar or certain exotic hardwoods like cocobolo. I wish I had a source for free hardwood sawdust. You can do a whole lot with that. The most profitable mushrooms to grow on that hardwood sawdust would probably be king oyster and reishi.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Jenn]
#21722349 - 05/25/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Normally sawdust from cabinet makers is too fine to use, you want a coarse sawdust from a mill. I use fuel pellets for wood stoves for my edibles. But worth a try, best of luck
Edited by mush madness (05/25/15 08:02 PM)
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Jenn
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: NumeroEno]
#21722358 - 05/25/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll call and ask more questions. I bought a 30 gallon barrel and I'll fill it up as I need. Pretty sure it's mainly oak. Thanks for the advice and help. Guess I need to track down some king oyster LC and get to growing. I'm stoked.
One more question... I have quite a few cultures and spore syringes at this point. So the trading rules on shroomery apply to all trades, even gourmet? And by rules I mean the 90 day thing. I know its taboo to talk about. Well seemingly.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: mush madness]
#21722361 - 05/25/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mush madness said: Normally sawdust from cabinet makers is too fine to use, you want a coarse sawdust from a mill. I use fuel pellets for wood stoves for my edibles. But worth a try, best of luck
Well Fuck.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Jenn]
#21722370 - 05/25/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The market just won't be visible to you until 90 days. It will be over before you know it
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Jenn]
#21722377 - 05/25/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mush madness said: Normally sawdust from cabinet makers is too fine to use, you want a coarse sawdust from a mill. I use fuel pellets for wood stoves for my edibles. But worth a try, best of luck
Well Fuck.
I wouldn't trip about that, some species like hericium prefer a compressed sub. Ya can always fluff it up with coir or straw as well and most won't care. Sawdust is always good for something.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21722430 - 05/25/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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mush madness said: Normally sawdust from cabinet makers is too fine to use, you want a coarse sawdust from a mill. I use fuel pellets for wood stoves for my edibles. But worth a try, best of luck
Well Fuck.
I wouldn't trip about that, some species like hericium prefer a compressed sub. Ya can always fluff it up with coir or straw as well and most won't care. Sawdust is always good for something.
I never thought about adding verm or straw, great advice as always pastywhyte
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: mush madness]
#21722562 - 05/25/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, people talk coir up as a cube substrate a lot here, but it makes a great filler for just about every mushroom sub you could imagine.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: mush madness]
#21722590 - 05/25/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hope restored.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: Jenn]
#21722603 - 05/25/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I made a set of wbs and brf on verm jars. What sawdust mixture would you recommend?
Also.. on one of the jars, if I just opened it up, think it would fruit at all?
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. *DELETED* [Re: NumeroEno]
#21722925 - 05/25/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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NumeroEno
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: stevo]
#21722941 - 05/25/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'll get back to you on that in about a month. I just started some allenii spawn and after I expand it to a lot of wood chips it's all going into a container bed with coir based soil.
What I do know is that oysters and reishi absolutely love it.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. *DELETED* [Re: NumeroEno]
#21722993 - 05/25/15 10:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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NumeroEno
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: stevo]
#21723022 - 05/25/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hell yeah man. I thought I had some going a while ago, but that trade was a little iffy and the myc looks and smells suspiciously like oysters 
Anyway I just dropped a 100mm plate of confirmed allenii myc into a half gallon of rye, and now things are gonna get interesting. This allenii is stunningly beautiful on agar. The plate pictured is not the one I inoculated the half gallon with but you get the idea.

That pic is a testament to what allenii does up against trich, though
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: stevo]
#21723027 - 05/25/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i wonder if you could mix the sawdust with water and maybe a little egg white or something, mix it into a dough, and run it through a pasta maker. you could get whatever coarseness you need that way, or experiments with different coarseness.
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Re: unlimited sawdust... Question. [Re: ballsalsa]
#21723077 - 05/25/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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No point really. Once it gets hydrated again it turns into exactly that -- a dough, and that creates anaerobic conditions that bacteria likes more than mushrooms.
Mixing something like whole grains or bran is sufficient to supplement a sawdust substrate, but it has to be sterilized, therefore you need to use either liquid culture/inoculant or a flowhood, because bags are next to impossible to work with inside a SAB.
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Edited by NumeroEno (05/25/15 11:19 PM)
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