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Offlinecrispy86
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L changing color over time...should i be concerned?
    #21722025 - 05/25/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So...I have a number of different types of L on multiple types of mediums:

half vial 5 years old: i'm concerned about the color changes that have occurred over the years with this one.  when i first got the full vial, it was clear as water. 2-3 years later, i noticed it started to change into a yellow/lime green color.  i ate it at that point and it was just as good as it was when i first got it. very potent and visual with just one drop.

now, after long-term storage, i'm really concerned about the color: almost light-brown with a hint of orange...it's hard to describe the color without posting a picture.  has anybody had experience with this? think it's safe to eat? i've seen amber colored L before that was great, so i'm curious if this has to do with aging, oxidation, heat exposure, exposure to humidity...etc. this is probably some of the best L i've had ever...so i don't want to toss it, and i'm not at a point in my life where i can eat it. i'm sure i can find a friend who would be willing to try it...

it was stored in a plastic vial (breath mint) which was placed inside a bolt (stash) sealed container.  sitting in the trunk of my unused car for 6 months of winter in the PNW...

i also looked at some of the paper, as it all has recently come back into my possession.

some paper, has turned from white to brown (5 years old), while other paper has stayed as white as it was before (2 years old).

luckily, i have some gumdrops and other gummy-type candies (and sweet tarts) that will more than likely have preserved the substance much better than a medium like paper or a breath mint vial would...

6 different batches more or less...some as old as 5 years...others as new as 1 year ago


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: crispy86]
    #21722059 - 05/25/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Thats funny you mention that. Once on tour we had 10 grams of white fluff that was in a big  jar and the everclear was already added. The solution was ready for dipping. We carried it around for a couple weeks(not smart) and it turned light green. We all freaked. We thought one of us had slipped some food coloring in it for a joke. It stayed potent, but baffled the hell out of me. 




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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: crispy86]
    #21722132 - 05/25/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

There is a really cool picture from the 60's of a picture someone drew on paper with liquid LSD. After all these years, you can see where the LSD was, because it has turned a brown color.


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21722134 - 05/25/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

yes its degredation. a chemist gets iso-lsd which is 100% of the isomer of lsd, then he works very hard to get it too turn into lsd, the higher the purity the harder it is to get it there. so as time goes by it slowly degrades, decreasing the purity, which changes the color, left long enough it will probably turn completely back into the isomer, id say 40 or 50 years at least.


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: whitelights]
    #21722143 - 05/25/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

seriously thoguh i just got a vial this weekend left it in dashboard compartment for like a day in the car. before it was slightly cloudy now it went from cloudy to black. and its really pure stuff. no potency loss, same great stuff, or i was tripping and it was dark out when i put it away and i was sober and daytime when i took it out.


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: whitelights]
    #21722299 - 05/25/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So the vial changed color and it was still potent as before?

So weird.


I wonder if it was some kind organic impurity in the LSD that is causing the color changes :strokebeard:


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21722407 - 05/25/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

well if its 95% pure and it changed to like 94.5% pure that would be half a microgram less per dose and so on, so it would be really hard to tell if it changed.  even if it went from 95 to like 85, thats 20 micrograms difference, even most people wont be able to notice that.

  different purities, types and sources of crystal have different qualitative effects. with the silver ebing around 77% pure and the fluff as they say being upper 80s low 90s. you can take the silver, clean it up and turn it into fluff. i do not think that as it degrades it goes from fluff, to silver. i think it keeps the type it is as it is, but degrades in a different way than it came about.


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: whitelights]
    #21722419 - 05/25/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

WTF black liquid?


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21722666 - 05/25/15 09:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyone think it's possible that the container is causing it, and that the chemical itself is fine?  Paper will fade over time, and who knows what that breath mint container has gone through over the years. I don't know anything about this, though I have read stories of people finding doses years later under furniture and it was still active.

Maybe Erowid knows?


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21722786 - 05/25/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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WTF black liquid?




  lsd changes color when it gets dissolved in alcohol, which is a chemical reaction and usually gets darker. i know the stuff is pure, if it was a silver/grey color it would turn black. i dont mean straight up black liquid but like slightly tinted with a black color to it.

another explanation would be if they used a dark whiskey to dissolve the crystal in the liquid would be dark.


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: whitelights]
    #21722850 - 05/25/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Dug around Erowid a little bit, and didn't find too much. Best thing to do is just try it, maybe switch containers, and keep it in a cool, dark, dry place.


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Re: L changing color over time...should i be concerned? [Re: Drumdude27]
    #21740255 - 05/30/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

i have no concerns about taking it again. it's just a little darker and cloudier. 

i used to have yellow geltabs. went out of town and left them for a month in my house that was 90 degress. they turned black. i flushed those...did not look right at all and didn't wanna take any risks


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