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Bill_Oreilly
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DMT yields
#21721847 - 05/25/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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On average, whats your yield percentage?
I extract from 60g of ACRB and I get only 300mg. How inefficient is this yield?
The thing is though...the 300mg literally looks like a gram..but when I weigh it out it ways .3 grams.
thoughts?
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Phytochemicals[edit] Phytochemicals found in Acacia confusa: Root bark[edit] N-methyltryptamine, 1.43%[6] N,N-dimethyltryptamine, 1.15%[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acacia_confusa
sooo you should have gotten more.
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=39030
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Re: DMT yields [Re: rxb]
#21722008 - 05/25/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So you're at .5%... about 1/2 as productive as you could be.
How long is your acid soak and what vessels do you use to extract?
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expected yield would be ~690mg+-20mg
bill it has happened before that vendors sold treebark instead of rootbark.
doesnt take much effort to find people bitching about it.
or following the thicklight tek may help (if you didnt extract it all just extract again using the thicklight tek.
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Edited by rxb (05/25/15 06:30 PM)
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Re: DMT yields [Re: rxb]
#21723083 - 05/25/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I use a simple STB with back salting. I use 50g acrb. And I get about .7g-.9g.
I don't powder my bark either, just throw it in as chunks.
They say you can over a gram from 50g of bark. And that's my goal. Mostly its .7g this last time I got the .9g.
I think it was because of was the last of my bark so it was like 'shake.' Big bunch of powder at the bottom of the bag.
You use a good tek Bill, and I'm sure you're diligent in your process. Maybe it's your bark.
I've read a scientific document that showed that the dmt content of the bark can fluctuate drastically depending on just the time of day it was harvested. Let alone the the time of year. Or the soil content, atmospheric pressure.
I also like to think if its someone with good karma and a pure heart that harvests the tree will be kind, as opposed to some money hungry tweaker stealing bark from private property in Hawaii and selling it on ebay.
I'm gonna try and find the document and link it for us all to muse over.
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Quote:
Supachopped719 said: I use a simple STB with back salting. I use 50g acrb. And I get about .7g-.9g.
Do you clean your product?
Good yield but you might be surprised at how much is left behind with a re-x
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Edited by Bugler Boy (05/26/15 06:34 AM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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The thing is, on my first pull I like to do 1 big one rather than small little ones.
So ill use like 200ml of naptha, and get most of the DMT in that 1 pull.
Then when I do the 2nd pull, there is virtually no DMT left to the point its not even worth doing another pull.
its just easier than doing 4 pulls when im going to get the same amount anyway
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I think you would be better doing 4 pulls back to back with your 200 ml of naphta and put in the same container for evap and freeze precip rather than one big pull , also you could try to heat everything . Do an acid boil and use hot naphta when pulling
I'm sure you would get better yield if youre not already doing it
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Edited by Jean-guy Masta (05/26/15 07:14 AM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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so youre saying I should have 800ml of naptha in the pyrex dish at once? That seems like a lot.
or are you saying I should do 4 pulls of 50ml
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Quote:
Bill_Oreilly said: so youre saying I should have 800ml of naptha in the pyrex dish at once? That seems like a lot.
or are you saying I should do 4 pulls of 50ml
4 pulls of 50 ml, is what I do.
And I alway do a cleanup. To do otherwise is irresponsible.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Quote:
Supachopped719 said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: so youre saying I should have 800ml of naptha in the pyrex dish at once? That seems like a lot.
or are you saying I should do 4 pulls of 50ml
4 pulls of 50 ml, is what I do.
And I alway do a cleanup. To do otherwise is irresponsible.
do you freeze precipitate the whole 200ml in 1 go or do precipitate the pulls separately?
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I do it separately, little 1/4 of a pint jars I believe. I freeze for a couple days. Then shake the shit outta my jars to knock the crystals loose of the goo. Then pour through a coffee filter, to catch the crystals.
I also keep some naphtha in the freezer to squirt back into the jar and swish some more to get any crystals that got stuck to the side in the pour. As room temp naphtha melts the crystals ime.
I hate when those white fluffy crystals melt back Into the goo, so that's why I do the shakey shake.
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You can go and put the whole 200 ml of naphta in the same container but you will have to evap half of the volume before putting it in the freezer or else the dmt just won't precipitate in that much liquid. What you can do actually is freeze precip right away with the 200-300 ml , only impurities will precipitate , switch the naphtha in a other container evap half of it and the re freeze and what you get is nice white stuff without de effort of doing a defat step
Yea what I was saying was 4 pull of 50 ml. And heating everything is the key to get better yield. It's easy and not that much more dangerous
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HOT pulls, 4 x 75ml @ 5 min apiece. pre evap to ~50-70ml. pour that 50ml into a new pan. freeze precip 18 hr. snowglobes
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Bill_Oreilly
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what do you mean pre-evap?
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put your pan in front of a fan make a mark with a black marker to know when you have evapped enough . usually takes 3-4 hours
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I'm getting over 2% of white fluffy crystal from my ACRB after the de-fat. I can get well over 2% obviously if it's in goo form since it has other impurities. I ended up getting some great bark though with good alkaloid content. I pulled over a 1g of white crystal from 50g of bark from my last extraction. I bought all lab grade glassware and hot plate magnetic stirrer, so I am not sure if that has any impact on my yields. It sure as hell makes the process a lot easier with proper equipment though.
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Bill_Oreilly
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I guess I go with quantity yields over quality yields in the sense that I can preform very fast extractions but not get great yields.
I can have a batch in the freezer in like an hour an a half without hardly any work. The de-fat step used to be the most tedious but I figured a way to get in done in like 10 minutes or so.
I bet if I took my time and really gave it my full effort I could get decent yields.
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Yeah dude you are loosing a lot of alkaloids by rushing it like that. My extractions usually span a couple days because it takes a long time. Lots of sitting and waiting, but slow and steady is definitely the best result. I usually do other stuff though while my extraction is going on so it's very minimal ongoing effort (no heating or stirring since I automate that), however it is still time consuming.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Yeah I just feel sketched out because while I do my extraction the house will smell weird, and my wife isn't too happy when I do these extractions because she thinks its like meth where I can blow up the house.
so just having the vessel chilling stinking up the house makes me want to do it in as quick as time as possible.
but the odd thing is, when I try to get more DMT out of my bark by taking more time or doing more pulls, I fail. It seems as if im getting like 90% or so of the DMT out.
Maybe im wrong, but according to my observations that seems to be the case.
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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