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Offline2bittoker
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My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow)
    #21721706 - 05/25/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Okay so after a few failures with grains, I finally got moisture content correct and I'm on my way to my first monotub.  Grains should be finishing up in a few days.  Lost one jar due to bad application of silicone on SFD but the other 9 are going strong.  Also doing 33 cakes - 13 on one run, 8 on the second and 12 on one starting today.  Using rye berries and the teks in my sig.  Here's where I'm at
Started on grains


Colonization! (Right before shake)


First two batches of cakes


First batch is fully colonized


Grains are finishing!


Questions:
TL's tek says to mix all of the substrate and spawn together, while RR and Daimon say to leave some sub in the bucket to cover remaining exposed grains.  Which should I follow?

How bad should a drop from 10 to 9 jars of spawn hurt yield? Colonization times?

How do I know if a tub needs misting? 

How often should I check it during colonization?  Anything to look for besides contams?


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21722227 - 05/25/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Damn, Solid operation you got going on.

I hope to get up to that scale within the next few months!


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: Jsneeb] * 1
    #21722461 - 05/25/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Layering is not really neccessary and can confuse people as the top will not always colonize fully. But it does not really matter, its mostly preference. I would say that for the first few grows to just mix it all up so you can see whats going on.


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21723132 - 05/25/15 11:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Pastywhyte said:
Layering is not really neccessary and can confuse people as the top will not always colonize fully. But it does not really matter, its mostly preference. I would say that for the first few grows to just mix it all up so you can see whats going on.



Thank you!


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21723159 - 05/25/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Also, I've ready using gypsum in the bucket tek during the hydrating of the substrate increases contam rates, but some people add it to the boiling water no problem.  Anyone have experience with this?


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21723560 - 05/26/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Gypsum won't increase contams. Dirty spawn increases contams.


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21723568 - 05/26/15 04:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

fuckin' word! :lol:


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: spacechildo]
    #21743378 - 05/31/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Okay my grain is ready to go!  Do I shake the jars before spawning or do I drop it out as a glob and then break apart once in the tub?


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21743414 - 05/31/15 12:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Shake shake shake...


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: LocN9ne]
    #21747257 - 06/01/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Grains- Shaken not stirred
Substrate- Coir/Verm bucket pasteurized with blanket.  Verified 150F core temp and 155F outer temp
Cakes- Birthed and fruited

Time to get this bulk grow on the road.  Fingers crossed! :stoned:


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21750819 - 06/01/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I'll post pictures tomorrow but I spawned today to bulk for the first time.  Went smoothly.  Ousted the air, wiped the tub down with alcohol, then my hands, gloved up, ousted again.  Poured substrate (Coir brick, 4.5 quarts water, 2 quarts verm pasteurized with bucket tek, using blanket to maintain pasteurization temps.) in, then 9 quarts of rye grains grains and mixed evenly that I shook 18 hours earlier and let set to get a head start on recovery times before spawning.  Tub is 66 quarts, clear.  Gorilla tape used to block light on the bottom, duct tape on holes 5 inches up.  1.5 inch holes, 6 of them, 4 on the sides near the bottom, 2 on the top near lid. Will watch and pray!  Hoping coir is as contam resistant as they say.
The tub


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21751055 - 06/01/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

What's up with that red spot on the 2nd pic under "grains are finishing"?


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: insanemike]
    #21751062 - 06/02/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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What's up with that red spot on the 2nd pic under "grains are finishing"?


RTV silcone that was on my hands as I was finishing jars.  You can see the difference is messyness from beginning to end on my SFDs.  The ones I was doing at the start at perfectly white.  Then they start getting redder as I handled more silicone.


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21751080 - 06/02/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: insanemike]
    #21751127 - 06/02/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Cant wait to see your tubs. Sit back smoke a fatty, think a little, and then back to your lab! Keep up the good work bro!


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: rmshroom]
    #21751150 - 06/02/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Cant wait to see your tubs. Sit back smoke a fatty, think a little, and then back to your lab! Keep up the good work bro!



On my 5th bowl now and 3rd tall boy.  Doing just that.  Fuck dude you are psychic!:goodburger:


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21751178 - 06/02/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Haha! Sounds good. You are going to have so many gooms. What type of light are you going to use in fruiting if you don't mind me asking?


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: rmshroom]
    #21751181 - 06/02/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Haha! Sounds good. You are going to have so many gooms. What type of light are you going to use in fruiting if you don't mind me asking?



6500k CFL, Walmart $7 bendable lamp.


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: 2bittoker]
    #21751202 - 06/02/15 01:05 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nice, how far is it going to be from the sub?


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Re: My first bulk grow - (33 cake and 9 grain jars grow) [Re: rmshroom]
    #21751208 - 06/02/15 01:07 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice, how far is it going to be from the sub?



When I fruit it, 6 inches from the lid, probably 24 inches from the bulb


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