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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: WAN]
    #21722085 - 05/25/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If you want to maintain an egalitarian relationship with a man with a job do not have a child.  If you have a child you are going to get stuck with most of the raising purely based on biology.  He can help but that's it.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: WAN] * 5
    #21722109 - 05/25/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

1. No one says you HAVE to get married. I've been with my chick for 6+ years, we have a kid, we live together, but we aren't married and probably never will be.

2. If your mom is staying home to take care of the kids, cook and clean, does she also have a job bringing in half the income? Or does your Dad slave his ass off to bring in all the money so your mom and siblings can live a decent life? It's a two way street sweetheart. Is SHE the one earning and paying 4x as much on groceries? Maybe then I can understand her complaint, if she was raising the kids, cooking, cleaning AND working.

3. Most "modern women" don't do many of these things.. they'd rather focus on their career and do whatever they want. Which.. fine.. that's their choice.

4. Your mom complains about "having to provide sexual services to her husband"... umm.. that's called loving someone. If that's a negative.. then what the fuck did she get married for? Sex is an important part of any relationship.

5. Your mom sounds like she's right out of the 50s, and just woke up to modern feminist thinking and is now pissed off that she CHOSE to live like that. 

6. If you have KIDS, then that's your choice and you have to take the responsibility to raise them right. Yeah, social life goes down the drain and it's difficult and very expensive. That's common knowledge.

Personally, I will never get married. There's just too many downsides for the male. It's most definitely more beneficial for the woman.

No offense but your mom sounds selfish.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21722121 - 05/25/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah OPs mom puts out for me no problem. Sucks for the dad though


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21722160 - 05/25/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Marriage can be advantageous tax wise.  Children are never advantageous anywise


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #21722163 - 05/25/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know if my mom truly loves my dad but I know that whenever my dad makes a mistake, she will nag him for a long time, but when I do it, she forgives me (unless it's something monumentally stupid)


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: WAN] * 2
    #21722175 - 05/25/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Obviously not if she refers to intimacy as sexual services like she's a prostitute or something. Wtf?


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21722189 - 05/25/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Marriage can be advantageous tax wise.  Children are never advantageous anywise




Unless they make it big like CEO or NFL Allstar


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Offlinezappaisgod
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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Patlal]
    #21722194 - 05/25/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

And they'll probably hate you anyway because of how much you beat them to succeed.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21722204 - 05/25/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:lolsy:

Sad but true.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #21722229 - 05/25/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Most men including myself aren't really interested in marriage in their 20s or 30s imo. Also I'm not sure how you're making the direct connection between relationship>marriage>babies. A lot of times you can have a strong relationship without marriage or babies. There are ALL many birth control techniques.

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Shroomism said:
1. No one says you HAVE to get married. I've been with my chick for 6+ years, we have a kid, we live together, but we aren't married and probably never will be.

2. If your mom is staying home to take care of the kids, cook and clean, does she also have a job bringing in half the income? Or does your Dad slave his ass off to bring in all the money so your mom and siblings can live a decent life? It's a two way street sweetheart. Is SHE the one earning and paying 4x as much on groceries? Maybe then I can understand her complaint, if she was raising the kids, cooking, cleaning AND working.

3. Most "modern women" don't do many of these things.. they'd rather focus on their career and do whatever they want. Which.. fine.. that's their choice.

4. Your mom complains about "having to provide sexual services to her husband"... umm.. that's called loving someone. If that's a negative.. then what the fuck did she get married for? Sex is an important part of any relationship.

5. Your mom sounds like she's right out of the 50s, and just woke up to modern feminist thinking and is now pissed off that she CHOSE to live like that. 

6. If you have KIDS, then that's your choice and you have to take the responsibility to raise them right. Yeah, social life goes down the drain and it's difficult and very expensive. That's common knowledge.

Personally, I will never get married. There's just too many downsides for the male. It's most definitely more beneficial for the woman.

No offense but your mom sounds selfish.



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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 2
    #21722231 - 05/25/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Wow people are so fuckin rude on here. its sad to hear how your mother views marriage. its all subjective, it works for some but not for others. the best you can do is make sure youre with someone you want to spend THE REST of your life with. that's as simple as it can be put.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21722360 - 05/25/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

zappaisgod said:
Marriage can be advantageous tax wise.  Children are never advantageous anywise




I dunno if that's true anymore. I heard the tax breaks are pretty much gone now. I haven't really read up on it though.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21722389 - 05/25/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Considering the laws being passed for homosexual marriage I think it's to prevent people from abusing the law. Having children still grants you a few tax breaks, as does having dependants.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21722693 - 05/25/15 09:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The question is, is marriage worth it for the man?





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OfflineMescalean
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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21722737 - 05/25/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

All you married guys with wives who cook and shit are lucky.

The girls they're making now... I have been a better cook than any one of my exes. None could cook or would bother to learn.

If there is no sexual acts performed or cooking in it for me then why the fuck would I get married. Guys get the short end of the stick.

I actually got into this same topic with a girl i went to highschool with about how her life as a mother was so fucking hard. she shut up as soon as i pointed the fact out she had made 20 posts to her wall throughout the day. couldnt be that busy


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #21722756 - 05/25/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

haha that reminds me of a Bill Burr set. "any job you can do in your pajamas cant be that hard" or something like that. he has a whole lot of jokes about that topic.


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #21722768 - 05/25/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I also don't see the connection between marriage and babies. They are obviously related, but marriage doesn't necessarily lead to babies.

However, i think they are both stupid.

(I like kids, but don't think i'll have any. Will never get married - can't even conceive of why anyone would, it is pretty much the most ridiculous social ritual i can imagine - although low key/non traditional weddings arn't so bad....)


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21722771 - 05/25/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

lol one of my favorite comics, I actually posted that bit and she went off about how she thought he was a moron and knew nothing of her struggles lol


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Mescalean] * 2
    #21722783 - 05/25/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Damn OP did you ever think you'd make a thread where everyone tears your mom a new asshole?


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Re: Is marriage worth it for the woman? [Re: Mescalean]
    #21722794 - 05/25/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mescalean said:
All you married guys with wives who cook and shit are lucky.

The girls they're making now... I have been a better cook than any one of my exes. None could cook or would bother to learn.

If there is no sexual acts performed or cooking in it for me then why the fuck would I get married. Guys get the short end of the stick.

I actually got into this same topic with a girl i went to highschool with about how her life as a mother was so fucking hard. she shut up as soon as i pointed the fact out she had made 20 posts to her wall throughout the day. couldnt be that busy



She probably shut up because she realized you're a self inflated asshole. Raising kids isn't easy. Just because you find time for other shit that doesn't mean your life is any different. What, so she shouldn't take what time she can to herself because of...? Lots of people have hard lives but that doesn't mean they never have any spare time. Sometimes I spend a good amount of time in a day on the Shroomery. Shit, I've probably made a few dozen posts today. Yet still I had time to watch my son, feed him, play with him, deal with him, take him outside, do my dishes, clean the house, organize my basement, help my dad move shit, spend time with my girlfriend, should I go on?


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