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OfflineAcidBath
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just took some kratom
    #21720221 - 05/25/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My first time trying a white variety. This is supposed to be a white veined  maeng da so my expectations are high! New vendor for me but highly regarded in the community.
Toss n washed 4gs with some ginger ale on an empty stomach and I'm feeling first effects already 20mins in! So far kratom is nice... Better than codeine for my spine injury. The only thing is with the red vein, I get the wobbles 5gs in which is a scary feeling and that triggers panic attacks. Anyone else "burning" some kratom?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: AcidBath]
    #21720278 - 05/25/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Tried Kratom. Never impressed. Don't remember the exact dosage but was at least 5gs. Glad it's helping you! Enjoy!


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: AcidBath]
    #21720280 - 05/25/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

bout to take 4g of maeng da red

For me no matter the dose, strain, or source kratom always acts as a stimulant. It's pretty much like natural adderall without the anxiety and unpleasant side effects. Anyone else like this?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21720284 - 05/25/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I still haven't tried krat

I must be missing out


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21720294 - 05/25/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

OhMrJohnson said:
I still haven't tried krat

I must be missing out




It's nice.

I think most people that are disappointed are dissapointed because they expect too much to begin with.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21720374 - 05/25/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Kratom is awesome, happy to hear you are enjoying it


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21720401 - 05/25/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

kraiken is awesome!
that reminds me to...
take some at this very moment :cookiemonster:
:kratom:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21720819 - 05/25/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have been using kratom 2-3 times daily for about a year and a half.

I am not a big fan of the white vein varieties and prefer the green veins. However, with prices going up again I'm currently using red vein.

I prefer opium products but getting them consistantly always seems to be a problem or they are just too damned expensive. I have degenerative arthritis in my lower back but doctors refuse to give my a script for pain because I'm "too young", total b.s. (I'm 36). The pain gets worse as the years tick by. Sometimes it is so painful I can't even take a deep breath. They say I need physical therapy and to lose a few pounds. I agree that my weight is too high but physical therapy is not going to put a dent in my daily pain.

I love kratom for saving me from the majority of the suffering and it is a fantastic mood enhancer. It is better than any anti depressant hands down! For me at least.

Kratom is a God send!


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Ncogneato]
    #21721095 - 05/25/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If you don't like kratom, you're probably doing something wrong-

- not the right strain for you
- dosing too high
- kratom is not fresh and potent (many vendors out there sell crap)
- you are doing stuff while high, which is naking you dizzy or irritable and preventing you from going into a trance.  Try laying down and meditating, the high will be stronger and much different


Edited by Hobozen (05/25/15 02:14 PM)


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Hobozen]
    #21721100 - 05/25/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

A lot of drugs are much more intense when you relax and lay down


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721107 - 05/25/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
A lot of drugs are much more intense when you relax and lie down



Yeah..


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21721113 - 05/25/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

whoops typo lol


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721120 - 05/25/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I don't normally enjoy medium-large doses of kratom unless I'm laying down and zoning out.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Hobozen]
    #21721215 - 05/25/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ill be trying Kratom for the first time next week.
Dont know what to expect really..


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21721222 - 05/25/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Ever tried any opiates?

Expect a similar experience but with some differences of course.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721241 - 05/25/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
Ever tried any opiates?

Expect a similar experience but with some differences of course.



It like a mild opiate like hydrocodone is strength ime/o
but more satisfy ing and alittle more stimulation


always start low or you might do too much and get dizzy and puke


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721243 - 05/25/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Just Chlorpheniramine/Hydrocodone Suspension.

&& mmk. I'll start with 3g or so..
Thankss. :thumbup:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: AcidBath]
    #21721248 - 05/25/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

What the fuck is kratom? I have seen people talking about it on here but what is it exactly


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Shroom Kitty]
    #21721253 - 05/25/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Look at the page for it on erowid, itl tell you everything you want to know


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721259 - 05/25/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
Look at the page for it on erowid, itl tell you everything you want to know




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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21721271 - 05/25/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
bout to take 4g of maeng da red

For me no matter the dose, strain, or source kratom always acts as a stimulant. It's pretty much like natural adderall without the anxiety and unpleasant side effects. Anyone else like this?



Same here man, that is the main reason why I love using kratom before work or school. The added benefit is I get to experience these brief moments of sheer euphoria while I nod out for a minute here and there.

Red Vein FTW


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Sham87]
    #21721365 - 05/25/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I enjoy kratom way too much. And for that reason I can't be around it anymore unfortunately.
Pretty sure I've talked about this before, but I'll go from dosing 5 g's twice a day to 10g's 5-6 times a day in a matter of 3-4 days.

Last couple times I ordered 1kg (2.2lbs) I went through it in roughly 3 weeks.

Overall I think it's an amazing plant if you can control yourself. Especially when comparing it to traditional opiates, but I can't :frown:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21721410 - 05/25/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Did you paint the cat in your sig?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21721514 - 05/25/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

How in the hell can you eat a kilo in 3 weeks???

That sounds like it would make me very sick just from that amount of powdered leaf alone...

Crazy :eek:

6 ounces can last me months of semi daily use.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: musiclover420]
    #21721522 - 05/25/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

some people eat 14-28g a day :shrug:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21721544 - 05/25/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Fantastic Mr. Fox said:
Did you paint the cat in your sig?



No
but something like that i could pull of
paimting on canvas is awesome

ill deff make artwork like that for a sig in the future

i chose a cat
cause i call people cats sometimes


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21721558 - 05/25/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Either way, I approve :sunny:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21721571 - 05/25/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Connoisseur said:
some people eat 14-28g a day :shrug:




yeah man this shit is horrible with the tolerance you get

I started out just chewing like a leaf at a time and within weeks I was popping pills filled with the stuff, the fresh leaf just wasn't cutting it anymore. Fast forward a couple months I am doing my own extractions and making super concentrated and even more deadly extracts of the stuff. I wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning until I popped my kratom extract capsules. I'd have to dose at least 7 times a day just to functon and everyone was worrying about me... it hurts to think about the pain I caused my family from my selfish kratom use. In the weeks leading up to when I was sent to rehab I was plugging huge mounds of teh extract I was making with a turkey baster. Now that's rock bottom. Thanks to narcotics anonymous and support from all of my family I am now clean 7 weeks. I can't lie, I often dream about loading up that turkey baster and putting a fat load of extract in my ass. Those are the worst, waking up just before I do it. But hey, I just gotta do 1 day at a time and I'll be ok.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21721572 - 05/25/15 04:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thank you
fantastic fox man! :smile:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21721578 - 05/25/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Man, I really need some more krat. The ganj just ain't the same without it.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers] * 2
    #21721601 - 05/25/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:thataintright:

:notsureif:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: musiclover420]
    #21721611 - 05/25/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:rofl:

Quote:

AddyZomeD said:
Thank you
fantastic fox man! :smile:




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Re: just took some kratom [Re: musiclover420]
    #21721620 - 05/25/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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musiclover420 said:
How in the hell can you eat a kilo in 3 weeks???





You're not the first person to ask me that here and most certainly won't be the last.
Dosing 10g's about every 3 hours comes out to 350-420g's a week.
So it's gone in about 3 weeks. Maybe even a bit less.

I've heard a lot of people say they get dizzy at higher doses. I've gotten dizzy to the point where it was a bit uncomfortable once. That was a 2 15g doses with no tolerance within a few hours of each other.

Sorry to answer your question with such horrible music, but maybe:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21721625 - 05/25/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

To be fair to Kratom and its' awesomeness I'm the same way with any drug including psychedelics.
The only drug I can have a surplus of and not severely abuse is weed.


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“[...]the only people for me are the mad ones,
the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: just took some kratom [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21721665 - 05/25/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I am not surprised, that is some crazy dosing.

I have 2 questions for you.

1, have you abused harder opiates in the past?

Seems like people who either already have been opiate addicts/ have burnt their receptors out abusing harder drugs don't get much from kratom or need much higher doses.

2, have you tried ordering from different sources? There can be a pretty big difference in quality/ freshness which makes me wonder if you either have weak stuff or just don't have the chemistry for smaller doses.

I get dizzy if I eat past 3-4 grams of some potent stuff usually, feels like a never ending head rush/ light headed feeling.

That song was painful to watch, I got like a minute into it. I have friends that are super into crap like that. I can't stand it.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: just took some kratom [Re: musiclover420]
    #21721748 - 05/25/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

musiclover420 said:
Yeah I am not surprised, that is some crazy dosing.

I have 2 questions for you.

1, have you abused harder opiates in the past?

Seems like people who either already have been opiate addicts/ have burnt their receptors out abusing harder drugs don't get much from kratom or need much higher doses.

2, have you tried ordering from different sources? There can be a pretty big difference in quality/ freshness which makes me wonder if you either have weak stuff or just don't have the chemistry for smaller doses.

I get dizzy if I eat past 3-4 grams of some potent stuff usually, feels like a never ending head rush/ light headed feeling.

That song was painful to watch, I got like a minute into it. I have friends that are super into crap like that. I can't stand it.




lol, sorry about the music. It's what came to mind.

To answer your questions:

1. Yes. I was addicted to true opiates for 4 years straight. I was clean for around 8 years but dabbled with dope a few times at low doses since January. It just came around and I said fuck it. Thank goodness I can't get my hands on anymore but if a couple more stamps came my way in the near future, I wouldn't say no. So you're most likely right about my abuse with Kratom stemming from that.

2. Yes. 5 different, reputable online vendors in the 2+ years that I've been experimenting with Kratom. I've had very weak batches as well as very potent batches depending on the vendor and strain. My current vendor, or at least the one I used most recently and ordered bigger quantities from, came with alkaloid concentration sheets for each strain I ordered. So it's not that I was eating weak kratom. I probably just dose the way I do because of what I stated answering your first question.

It was never a tolerance issue either because if I would eat it for 3 weeks straight, I would wait at least a month to order more. So yea, I think that about covers it.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”



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Re: just took some kratom [Re: kr0nik0]
    #21721817 - 05/25/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:

Thanks for the info, that definitely explains it.

No problem about the music either, I just am a music snob :lol:

Do smaller doses work for you at all?

I generally just eat 3-5 caps at around 300-400mg each so I rarely push 2-3 grams and it helps me from developing much of a tolerance at all even after weeks of daily use.

But I have never used any other opiates besides maybe a teeny bit of pharms for surgery.


This is a song that comes to my for me when I think about kratom.

Mainly just becouse of its potential to fuck up many corrupt industries that have a tight grip on the world.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

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Re: just took some kratom [Re: AcidBath]
    #21721890 - 05/25/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I take Kratom every day to keep me away from other things. the white veined are actually the least on the pain relieving side. maeng da red is the strongest when it comes to pain management. Kratom is a godsend though!! don't believe the hype about there being  no withdrawal symptoms!!! so glad it helps you


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: HolliDaze]
    #21722222 - 05/25/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well I must say I enjoyed this batch! I redosed 3 grams shortly after posting them again 5 grams, 6 hours later. Kratom is a stimulant for me as well no matter the variety, however this white vein is my new favorite because I find it more clear headed and focused. It is an in between type thing for me to keep me off of a constant tylenol(with opies) regimine week in week out.
I think this white vein is going to be my new go to, it has a low side effect profile compared to the rest I have tried. I wouldn't have tried it myself had I not heard positive things here first! I appreciate y'all.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: AcidBath]
    #21722233 - 05/25/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Have you tried mixing them?

My fave right now is 1/2/3 parts red/whit/green

Usually just 5 caps, 3 green, 2 white, and 1 red. It always gets m a nice solid effect for less than 2 grams and I find it to b super balanced between effects.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21723286 - 05/26/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Connoisseur said:
some people eat 14-28g a day :shrug:




yeah man this shit is horrible with the tolerance you get

I started out just chewing like a leaf at a time and within weeks I was popping pills filled with the stuff, the fresh leaf just wasn't cutting it anymore. Fast forward a couple months I am doing my own extractions and making super concentrated and even more deadly extracts of the stuff. I wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning until I popped my kratom extract capsules. I'd have to dose at least 7 times a day just to functon and everyone was worrying about me... it hurts to think about the pain I caused my family from my selfish kratom use. In the weeks leading up to when I was sent to rehab I was plugging huge mounds of teh extract I was making with a turkey baster. Now that's rock bottom. Thanks to narcotics anonymous and support from all of my family I am now clean 7 weeks. I can't lie, I often dream about loading up that turkey baster and putting a fat load of extract in my ass. Those are the worst, waking up just before I do it. But hey, I just gotta do 1 day at a time and I'll be ok.




My dad wants to try kratom for the first time. How much do I put in the turkey baster so he can have an enjoyable experience?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21723294 - 05/26/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I had one Kratom, once, that knocked my fucking socks off. Man I had legit fucking nods off this shit. But it was headshop Kratom so I think it was laced with research Chem. Like o desmethyl tramadol or something.

Chased that same high with like 30 different strains across like ten or twenty vendors. Never had anything even fucking close.

White veins are good stimulants but other than  that fuck Kratom. The only way Kratom gets you high is if you have a small child opiate tolerance I'd think. My opiate tolerance is that of an elephant having a former opiate addiction.

It's not worth the hype. But it's not as bad as people who gate it say.

It's like mid grade marijuana. It gets you medium at best,not high, just medium.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Psychonautica] * 2
    #21723298 - 05/26/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have have taken kratom probably 500-1000 times. I love the shit I feel good all day on it. I give it two thumbs up.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21723300 - 05/26/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

We don't give dosage advice here. Not even for Kratom and not even for your dad.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21723302 - 05/26/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Did you paint the cat in your sig?




That's Louis Wain's work.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21723372 - 05/26/15 01:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks,
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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Connoisseur]
    #21723407 - 05/26/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I have tried kratom, felt like an opiate....followed by nightmarish anxiety once it wore off. Never again


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Almond Flour]
    #21723721 - 05/26/15 06:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I just downed another 10gs, hoping to experience a strong effect after yesterdays positive experiment! For me kratom is another plant ally in the same leauge as cannabis and papaver which is saying a lot! I worry about becoming dependant because I usually do with my pain meds, however it is not just me wanting to get high, the high is an added bonus to spinal analgesia.
See before I found kratom, I was taken at least 15 mgs of oxycod. for breakthrough pain on top of at least 300mgs codeine daily. Now so far I have almost eliminated the codeine, and that hangs around for when my kratom has ran dry.
I still take oxycod. But less frequently. I am definitely not opiate naive as I can take 50mgs oxy instant release and be comfortable. I blame codeine for my tolerance issues. I can say from my own experience that codeine builds dependency and tolerance faster than hydrocodone.
Ahhh my nose is itching now... Im really wanting my own tree now. Anybody around here grow this guy?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: AcidBath]
    #21725642 - 05/26/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

arghh,
I can't wait, till mine arrives.

:sunny:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21725656 - 05/26/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I gotta stop making capsules. When I do toss and wash my consumption is limited because of the nasty ass taste. I made like 250 capsules last week and I've been popping them like candy they're almost gone lol.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21725665 - 05/26/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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arghh,
I can't wait, till mine arrives.

:sunny:



Truly
:kratom:

start low so you dont over due it with dizzzyness


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21725668 - 05/26/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I plan on keeping it traditional, chewing leaves, or some brew.
Quote:

AddyZomeD said:
Quote:

Fantastic Mr. Fox said:
arghh,
I can't wait, till mine arrives.

:sunny:



Truly
:kratom:

start low so you dont over due it with dizzzyness



Thanks, Addy
Ill be sure start on the low end.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox] * 1
    #21725670 - 05/26/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

capsules are for pussies


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21725672 - 05/26/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

where can you get whole leaves?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21725679 - 05/26/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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capsules are for pussies



Im saying tho,
I keeps it Raw,100%
:smirk:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21725681 - 05/26/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

just get some kratom, put it in your favorite yogurt, stir it together and eat. I can eat ten grams of kratom in ten seconds doing it this way i don't even taste the kratom and can feel it within a couple minutes.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21725709 - 05/26/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

TOSS AND WASH


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Sham87]
    #21725718 - 05/26/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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TOSS AND WASH




Toss and wash is alright but sometimes I mess up and get it in my teeth or breathe it in. Honestly just mixing it in yogurt is the best method and it is super quick and easy but if I am on the go toss and wash is fine.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Sham87]
    #21725729 - 05/26/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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TOSS AND WASH



This is the most powerful way to ingest your kratom

drink it with a nice fruit juice
really masks the taste


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD] * 1
    #21725736 - 05/26/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

AddyZomeD said:
Quote:

Sham87 said:
TOSS AND WASH



This is the most powerful way to ingest your kratom

drink it with a nice fruit juice
really masks the taste




No the most powerful way is to make a kratom tea, suck it up in the turkey baster and squirt it in your ass.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21725741 - 05/26/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21725750 - 05/26/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
Quote:

AddyZomeD said:
Quote:

Sham87 said:
TOSS AND WASH



This is the most powerful way to ingest your kratom

drink it with a nice fruit juice
really masks the taste




No the most powerful way is to make a kratom tea, suck it up in the turkey baster and squirt it in your ass.



:goatse:
sticky baster in
im sore from work i need it


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21725959 - 05/26/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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No the most powerful way is to make a kratom tea, suck it up in the turkey baster and squirt it in your ass.





best tek every

seriously though, i put some rolls up my ass a long time ago, worked like a fuckin champ

any drug up the ass is golden


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21725992 - 05/26/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Does kratom enhance the sound of music?
Or is it all physical?


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21726019 - 05/26/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It enhances music greatly for me, relaxing and listening to it and getting in the groove while playing it

:jamming:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: musiclover420]
    #21726036 - 05/26/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Eeeeeee!!!:sunny:


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: SunnyD]
    #21726249 - 05/26/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If ever around, trying taking a bite of a pickle (or anything else pickled) after washing it down. I don't particularly mind the taste, it just surprised me how it masked the taste 100%.


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Re: just took some kratom [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21726438 - 05/26/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Sham87 said:
TOSS AND WASH




Toss and wash is alright but sometimes I mess up and get it in my teeth or breathe it in. Honestly just mixing it in yogurt is the best method and it is super quick and easy but if I am on the go toss and wash is fine.



Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
Quote:

Sham87 said:
TOSS AND WASH




Toss and wash is alright but sometimes I mess up and get it in my teeth or breathe it in. Honestly just mixing it in yogurt is the best method and it is super quick and easy but if I am on the go toss and wash is fine.




I always used to mix it with yogurt and used to suggest it to people, still do for people that don't want to too & wash, but you can't sit there and say you can't taste the kratom. It just masks it quite a bit.

I've fucked up a few times with toss and wash where it went into my nose and sinuses and that burnt so fucking bad. For around 30 minutes..Some rough stuff.

If I still did it, I would without a doubt still toss and wash. Just the proper way that worked for me. Put it in a shot glass, and toss that powder like a shot straight to the back of your throat. Wash it down with milk or juice. I think that's a lot more pleasant than mixing with yogurt as long as you don't fuck up and get it all over your mouth trying to toss it down.

Absolutely no kratom taste that way and it's down in 2 seconds.


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