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makaveli8x8
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who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets?
#21718556 - 05/24/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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my god these touch devices are RUINING all my favorite pc programs, its getting horrible, and this avast antivirus is the perfect example. I can't find SHIT in it anymore thanks to this gay UI. I just got a malware i click clean, then i wanted to check my logs or w/e to see what it was so i could research it to keep an eye on if if i got infected ect, i can not find shit anywhere!
all ive managed to find is my virus chest, which is useless because it cleaned it aka deleted, can't find shit for logs other than when they were ran.....fucking useless.
Worst of all i find myself clicking back and forth through all these stupid tabs trying to find shit that used to only take half the space.....why don't these assholes that are trying to shove tablets down our throats get it, just give us UI SKINS, let us CHOOSE what crap we want, they did the same shit to comodo too. it was so easy to setup my firewall then they changed comodo and its all gayed up now made for 2 year olds who know nothing about computers. which is nice if your really stupid, but if your a somewhat experienced computer person all it is, is a huge pain in the ass
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makaveli8x8
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Re: who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21718622 - 05/24/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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shit says 4 viruses found in the last 30 days, news to me, yet nowhere, fucking nowhere can i see a report on any of it, stupid....
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Re: who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#21718664 - 05/24/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shroomism
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Re: who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets? [Re: ALesserCrowley]
#21719072 - 05/24/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets? [Re: Shroomism]
#21719630 - 05/25/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh you still live under that rock that thinks macs are invulnerable to viruses, bloatware and malware?
I never said Macs are imune to those. Just that with a Mac, unlike the most recent Windows laptop I bought for my parents, you don't have to download something like PC Decrapifier to remove tens of pieces of trialware and toolbars and all that. And their mobile phones, unlike many Android phones, aren't full of bloatware that the user can't remove without rooting the device, which opens up a whole host of new attack vectors anyway. The revealed preferences of buyers of consumer electronics make it so that staying free from malware and crapware is a protection racket regardless of the OS you put on it. GNU/Linux is left alone because its share of the consumer market makes it a not very lucrative target for criminals and purveyors of trialware. Mac OS X is for people with the cash to pay the protection fee right right up front and live in Apple's gated community. That doesn't mean malware and crapware can't infect your Mac, but the Apple premium keeps Apple from having to resort to putting crapware on it. Apple has a business interest in maintaining its image as the more upper middle class alternative to Windows, and people who fancy themselves as better certainly don't want to be constantly confronted with crime, hucksters, touts, and confidence tricksters, i.e. the software environment an average Windows user will find herself in by default. The solutions a Windows user has to resort to secure her PC (programs like PC Decrapifier, virus scanners, Ad-Aware) always strike me as the consumer electronics equivalent of a poor person living in a high-crime area having to put three locks on and a peephole in their door in order to be victimized slightly less often.
Agree or disagree with my characterization of Apple versus Windows, my point is that your Windows computer or Android phone would be more expensive without the crapware or with easier to remove crapware, and consumers buying the same products as you have indicated, through their purchasing decisions, that they don't want to pay premium coin for crapware-free computers and phones. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org
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Shroomism
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Re: who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets? [Re: ALesserCrowley]
#21719661 - 05/25/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't have that problem. My machines are custom built by myself and on Windows boxes it's always a clean install. Yeah, if you buy some prebuilt machine from HP or whatever it's going to have bloatware on it.. but you don't need PC Decrapifier to remove them.. Apple's "Gated community" and closed-source/proprietary EVERYTHING is also exactly what turns many people away from them.. for some people that's a plus... for others it's a big negative. With an Apple product, you are paying more for the name and logo. They don't offer any huge advantage over Windows or Linux, aside from maybe their displays on laptops, but other vendors are stepping up their game on those as well so it's not even that big of a selling point anymore. Mac system are, on average.. way overpriced for the hardware they sport IMO.
Anyway... you don't even really need an antivirus.. An antivirus serves more to protect you from yourself... it you practice safe habits then it's not needed.
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Re: who hates avast now and all these stuipd programs made for touch tablets? [Re: Shroomism]
#21719706 - 05/25/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think your post illustrates the problem of people who subscribe to the hacker ethos assuming that their ethos is much more broadly shared than it actually is. Part of the hacker ethos is improving your skills so as to avoid wasting money and building nicer things. Yes, if you do a little bit of research you can easily learn how to format and re-install your new Windows PC and set it up in a way that makes it about as secure as an out-of-the-box Mac. If you use an FSF-endorsed GNU/Linux distro and you study up on SE Linux you can have the most secure consumer PC out there. I know all that, no need to tell me. The number of people who want to do that is extremely small though. If you're naturally curious you want to figure out how to hack, in the expanded meaning of the word, your entire digital environment. Most people are not. For them it is deadweight in their lives. A Mac allows them to cut that deadweight by giving them something that is fairly secure be default. If they don't have the money for a Mac or don't want to spend money on one and at the same time they're unwilling to up their skills in order to secure their Windows PC or begin using GNU/Linux, they're going to suffer from malware and crapware. I could get a Windows PC and make it as secure as my Mac, but then I'd still have a PC that feels plastic-y and looks about as upscale and attractive as the people shopping at Wal-Mart. Having a Mac in front of you feels like being among people who have the money to shop at Whole Foods, much less depressing. Oh I know I could get a Windows PC and case-mod the hell out of it and turn it into the finest-looking computer to ever grace a person's desk, but my life expectancy is only 80 and I don't think it's worth the opportunity cost. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org
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