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Patlal
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GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! 7
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We are having a situation as we speak of a situation where drugs were not used responsibly and serious consequences could have occured.
User Zombi3 who made this thread called My feet are fucking freezing is currently suffering something horrible at the moment
He took just about 15 times the requiires dose of a drug and is now at the hospital. Earlier this week the doctors told him that his feet ha 50/50 chance to be amputated.... His feet were black and blue. Hopefully for him he's now in the 95% chance to be alright range, but still. Pretty fucking scary.
USE RESPONSIBLY OR DON'T USE AT ALL!
Here's what happened:
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Patlal] 2
#21718261 - 05/24/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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DANGER ZONE!
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This thread makes me want to drink an entire bottle of 151 fly to Columbia and buy an entire kilo of pure cocaine then jump out of a plane with no parachute to see if I can fly.
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larry.fisherman
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Maybe you could try to see how much cocaine you could rail before you hit the ground.
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this is why RCs are dumb as fuck
like you arent cool cuz youre doing RCs. youre just willingly being a guinea pig
just do classic psychedelics. we know theyre safe
like why the fuck do people have to do other hallucinogens with like slightly diff effects? is it really worth the risk? uh fuck no
seriously, RCs are fucking retarded
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718290 - 05/24/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've got some 4-ho-met. I'll let you know how it goes.
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i dont even know what that is
whats wrong with the classic hallucinogens?
i swear stupid drug nerds do RCs cuz they think it makes them cool and knowledgable. like honestly its quite the opposite
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Quote:
The Doobie Dude said: This thread makes me want to drink an entire bottle of 151 fly to Columbia and buy an entire kilo of pure cocaine then jump out of a plane with no parachute to see if I can fly.
THAT'S!!! what the fuck Im talkin' about
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21718315 - 05/24/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My thoughts and prayers are with him ....
I could easily have made such a choice on many occasions...
Just been lucky so far...
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Fog1] 1
#21718326 - 05/24/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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what did he take?
Hope he's gonna be ok...
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21718329 - 05/24/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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DOC
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak] 3
#21718330 - 05/24/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: i dont even know what that is
whats wrong with the classic hallucinogens?
i swear stupid drug nerds do RCs cuz they think it makes them cool and knowledgable. like honestly its quite the opposite
If you had any clue what the fuck you're talking about you'd know 4-ho-met is just as safe as any of the classics
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson] 1
#21718335 - 05/24/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak] 2
#21718336 - 05/24/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: i dont even know what that is
whats wrong with the classic hallucinogens?
i swear stupid drug nerds do RCs cuz they think it makes them cool and knowledgable. like honestly its quite the opposite
I concur. Buy LSD and/or grow shrooms.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21718346 - 05/24/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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4homet seems dope i love the aco version
i used to abuse benzos so had im lucky to be alive with some of the stupid shit i done
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Matt87]
#21718349 - 05/24/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not everyone can get L and you can't grow shrooms just anywhere, not if you have something to lose. Then you either got a big crap shoot or you wanna get in to agar.
I had a source for L. It took me years to find that one, and even he only gets it "sometimes." I'd honestly rather have 1P anyway, because I have shit to do.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Matt87] 1
#21718350 - 05/24/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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seriously some people look at "RCs" the same way old people look at "drugs"
There are good and bad RC's.
4-ho-met is the shit by the way. I used to take like 80mg and get no body load or side effects. Some of the phenethylamines can be dangerous if you are dumb with your dosing though.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: SunnyD] 1
#21718351 - 05/24/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I for one stick to the classics
But I think people have the right to take any drug they want
Consequences for your actions are on you
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21718355 - 05/24/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Some people just like destroying themselves with whatever shit someone tells them is gonna get them high....
seriously many people are so dumb!!!! i once was hanging with some junkies and a big toad passed by(bufo marinus) told these junkies that it would get them very high just like the sonoran desert toad if they smoked its poison...
3 seconds had not even passed and all of them were trying to catch the toad...
I had to tell them they were foolish... that the toad was very poisionous and the poison would rather kill than get high..... and started telling them how they suck believing anything some random is gonna tell them...
they would inject anything if you say that it is very strong drug... fucking morons... should really had left them smoke the toad venom so they dont get a chance to pass on their low intelligence genetics
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson] 1
#21718361 - 05/24/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
OhMrJohnson said:
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Bassfreak said: i dont even know what that is
whats wrong with the classic hallucinogens?
i swear stupid drug nerds do RCs cuz they think it makes them cool and knowledgable. like honestly its quite the opposite
If you had any clue what the fuck you're talking about you'd know 4-ho-met is just as safe as any of the classics
i dont waste my time learning about retarded drugs i have zero interest in doing
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718364 - 05/24/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ignorance is bliss
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Matt87]
#21718366 - 05/24/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Matt87 said:
Quote:
Bassfreak said: i dont even know what that is
whats wrong with the classic hallucinogens?
i swear stupid drug nerds do RCs cuz they think it makes them cool and knowledgable. like honestly its quite the opposite
I concur. Buy LSD and/or grow shrooms.
fuckin drug nerds. thats what it is
they think theyre special
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718367 - 05/24/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718369 - 05/24/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I could easily respond with saying it's not me that thinks he's special.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718373 - 05/24/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I could conceivably get some acid but I can always grow 'shrooms. That other stuff? I don't wanna know the tools who supply it. See the article I linked. Kids almost died.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718383 - 05/24/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, those drugs are pretty notorious. I remember giving some kid from this site shit because he and his friends kept smoking AB-Pinaca after having repeated seizures.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718389 - 05/24/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah people sold RC's as "Molly" they're fuckin dumb
Are drugs bad because some guy bought a bag of white powder he thought was coke off a homeless guy, rails a line and dies?
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The kicker is the main guy, the Brazilian, made a fucking video supposedly showing him testing it out as MDMA. After people got sick. There is no greater scum than him and he should be prosecuted for attempted murder along with everything else they can throw at him.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718418 - 05/24/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718428 - 05/24/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Bassfreak said: this is why RCs are dumb as fuck
like you arent cool cuz youre doing RCs. youre just willingly being a guinea pig
just do classic psychedelics. we know theyre safe
like why the fuck do people have to do other hallucinogens with like slightly diff effects? is it really worth the risk? uh fuck no
seriously, RCs are fucking retarded
If I am not mistaken aren't you a fan of MDMA, Ketamine, Cocaine?
All of which can be very harmful
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Patlal]
#21718437 - 05/24/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, Sheekle already made a thread wishing him well.
Do you know him personally/have contact with him at all? Even just a phone number or anything?
I know I'm new here and all, and he probably won't even know who I am... But man... I know who he is.. and I really, really, liked the dude 
This makes me super, duper sad.
If anyone has contact with Zombi3, please ask him if he has insurance / the means to pay for this.
If he needs help I'll gladly donate, or even make him a gofund.me my money is really really tight, but So is Zombi3. He's a super cool dude man I don't want to see him lose his feet. 
I remember that fucking thread too, he was posting multiple fucked up threads that we're gibberish 

Sending you all my positive vibes man.
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they arent RCs tho. theyre researched. you can do them responsibly bc people have studied them. you can understand longterm effects
with RCs the people making em dont give a fuck. they make em and when theyre done, they just pump out more. they dont care
mdma and K are safe drugs in the right hands simply bc theyve been studied. i wouldnt do either of those drugs without research
with an RC you can try to be as safe as you want but deep down you honestly dont have a clue and you sure as hell have no fucking clue what long term effects are
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Patlal]
#21718442 - 05/24/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Patlal said: We are having a situation as we speak of a situation where drugs were not used responsibly and serious consequences could have occured.
User Zombi3 who made this thread called My feet are fucking freezing is currently suffering something horrible at the moment
He took just about 15 times the requiires dose of a drug and is now at the hospital. Earlier this week the doctors told him that his feet ha 50/50 chance to be amputated.... His feet were black and blue. Hopefully for him he's now in the 95% chance to be alright range, but still. Pretty fucking scary.
USE RESPONSIBLY OR DON'T USE AT ALL!
Not surpsied. Dude was always pushing the envelope. I wish him the best of luck
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!!tp [Re: Bassfreak] 1
#21718446 - 05/24/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i like zombi3
hes cool. i hope he gets better, like genuinly
but what happened to him is 150% his fault. coulda been avoided if he just wanted to do acid instead. but like nah the visuals are probly slightly different and totally worth the risk ya know? who needs feet?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21718461 - 05/24/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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luvdemboomers said: seriously some people look at "RCs" the same way old people look at "drugs"
There are many variables like why a person chooses to use "drugs" and what their motives and intentions are. I find this has a lot to do with whether the person is desctructive or constructive.. or user or an abuser. Theres definitely a difference and it lies within the person.
I found this out when I asked a friend why he huffed and he said the same reason people smoke weed. And I said.. what? how can you even compare the two?
On one hand I think some people just lack common sense and dont give a fuck and on the other hand being lied to about drugs from the day we are born doesn't exactly help a lot of people make informed choices about which ones are safe.
Andrew Weil was right when he said the drugs that are most dangerous to us are the ones that we don't consider drugs. As we all are aware I am sure "legal" drugs like alcohol, tabacco and caffeine and sugar even have far worse health consequences to the public.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!!tp [Re: Bassfreak]
#21718465 - 05/24/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Everything you're saying makes a point but as cliche it almost is around here to say it, L was once a research chem. We get drugs that are shit, just don't do them. PiHKaL and TiHKaL are so much more than informative. They also show us that we can do our own group study. Honestly, pharmaceutically it happens every day anyway. At least with RCs you are trying to have fun. There is a certain amount of study you can do with RCs. It's not hard. Long term effects are different but really, even L is just lately getting to the point where the old hippies have something to show(maybe). 4-ho-met for instance is pretty safe. I don't suppose you know 4-ho-dmt? Then look at 1P and AL. Lysergamides even feel squeeky clean. There's something to that. In contrast, let's look at molly. Most people can conclude it's safe as long as you don't overdo it and take certain precautions. Now look at AL-LAD. Been around for decades. No known reported deaths as far as I'm aware. So either the LD50 is high or people are taking safe doses and are therefore having a safe time.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak] 2
#21718478 - 05/24/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Go rail a fat line and drink a 5th cocaine grizzly! Literally all those substances you listed started as RC's even the precious LSD molecule. Grow up and read more.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#21718495 - 05/24/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cocaine is right up there with nbome on the list of substances I wish I passed up.
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I never had a problem with coke and it is 100% natural. With RCs do ever really know what you're getting?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718534 - 05/24/15 07:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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you know you are getting a substance some wanker cooked up with a beaker. thats about it
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: rackem]
#21718540 - 05/24/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think I'll pass and tend my cakes
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Patlal]
#21718543 - 05/24/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn. Sounds like gas gangrene. Poor guy, I hope he doesn't lose his feet, but there's every possibility he may. WTF was he taking??
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718545 - 05/24/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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good advice right there.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718552 - 05/24/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: The kicker is the main guy, the Brazilian, made a fucking video supposedly showing him testing it out as MDMA. After people got sick. There is no greater scum than him and he should be prosecuted for attempted murder along with everything else they can throw at him.
Oh, I heartily agree.
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zappaisgod said: Fuck these scumbags http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/23/nyregion/federal-drug-charges-for-wesleyan-students-in-overdoses.html
What's the problem? 'Shrooms aren't enough? Acid isn't enough?
Jesus that article us annoying. The first paragraph says they were selling Molly and the rest of the article says that it wasn't actually MDMA.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: koods]
#21718668 - 05/24/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's right. It was fraud.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21718906 - 05/24/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I never had a problem with coke and it is 100% natural. With RCs do ever really know what you're getting?
Is it natural? I thought to refine cocaine beyond the paste stage you had to use gasoline somewhere along the line. Other stuff too. Chewing coca leaf would be natural but I didn't think powdered coke was.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Matt87]
#21718961 - 05/24/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Presumably as a solvent. Coca leaves do contain freebase cocaine (I.e. crack)
I like coke, but mephedrone was better Just playing devil's advocate, substance elitism is silly. Meph did feel better though, and felt a little closer to coke than anything else IMHO.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: DustBunny]
#21719034 - 05/24/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cocaine is the only stim I'll take. It's just so damn good. The experience with a good group of people is fun, and plus, it's cocaine.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21719301 - 05/25/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Not everyone can get L and you can't grow shrooms just anywhere, not if you have something to lose. Then you either got a big crap shoot or you wanna get in to agar.
I had a source for L. It took me years to find that one, and even he only gets it "sometimes." I'd honestly rather have 1P anyway, because I have shit to do.
Thats not the case with zombi though, he can get LSD. Anyone can get shrooms, come on. His posts just show a pattern of abuse to me. Someone who thinks they know it all and can handle anything. He fucking brags about how much drugs he takes. While I don't want to see anyone get their feet amputated, he had it coming. Can you imagine telling people why you have no feet, that you took ten times the normal dose of a sketchy drug? For the rest of your life. This isn't being a psychonaut explorer this is being a fucking idiot. This is why drugs are banned there is always some idiot who will take a massive dose. I think I will enjoy my nice safe LSD. I have never once thought it wasn't enough or boring, its awesome every single time.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21719489 - 05/25/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: i dont even know what that is
whats wrong with the classic hallucinogens?
i swear stupid drug nerds do RCs cuz they think it makes them cool and knowledgable. like honestly its quite the opposite
how do you think the "classic" hallucinogens became so widespread and popular? think, people TESTED them
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: daz01]
#21719547 - 05/25/15 02:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I too would not fuck with these newer drugs.
LSD + THC + DMT = Me breathing the next day, being able to walk down the street whistling to my favorite tune.
People hate to hear it, but some drugs really are better than others.
Zombis story is shocking to hear, I hope he is able to fully recover. Most know, Even with the safer drugs stuff can go wrong, I am always cautious to minimize any risk while experiencing as I have read and experienced (on a small scale) how quickly things can go wrong, one of the worst fears I have is coming to a situation were I am in need of outside help and risk revealing my condition.
I tried a basic dose of doc once awhile ago, it wasn't pleasant and I have never since had a desire try it or anything else like it again. I've tried MXE previously which was more interesting/less shitty, but I thought it still had kind of a foggy & dirty after glow.
DOC I found to be really bland and uninteresting overall, made me feel odd, out of balance, restless and weak.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Atreyu]
#21719566 - 05/25/15 03:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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and then you get people that are willing to take RC's they found on the ground just because they are labeled...... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21719480 .......
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: jboredone]
#21719631 - 05/25/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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to be clear, i haven't decided to do anything with them just yet...
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: jboredone]
#21719634 - 05/25/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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jboredone said: and then you get people that are willing to take RC's they found on the ground just because they are labeled...... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21719480 .......
i almost linked him over to this thread. Instead i made a smartass remark about this thread saying "what's the worst that could happen? It's not like it'll cost you an arm or a leg.( i know im going to hell for that one)" And he responds saying, he might actually have risk of losing a limb. 
Stick to fucking classics people. If you can't find them then hold out, and always take one hit on a new batch. Can't believe some people can't figure this shit out.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
#21719637 - 05/25/15 03:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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wrestler_az said: to be clear, i haven't decided to do anything with them just yet...
We already know what your going to do, idk why you made a thread asking what you should do, seems like you already got it figured out. Might as well have made a thread asking for suggestions on a mg scale.
But kudos on reading the thread labeled use drugs responsibly, it's the least you can do before you ddon't. (I really hope you prove me wrong and make me look like a dumbass though)
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taking drugs is risky. i am aware of this fact. though, these risks can be minimized...
now, i haven't yet decided to do anything with them just yet. so relax guys.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
#21719643 - 05/25/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i didnt ask you what i should do, i asked what you would do. and i appreciate the feedback, really.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: TheGreenArrow]
#21719675 - 05/25/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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TheGreenArrow said: Go rail a fat line and drink a 5th cocaine grizzly! Literally all those substances you listed started as RC's even the precious LSD molecule. Grow up and read more.
please explain how this is relevant to anything
its not
like yeah they started out as RCs, but theyre not anymore. theyve been researched
so im confused as to how that comment is relevant...
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21719680 - 05/25/15 04:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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its relevant because we will discover, new, different and exciting substances when we "test" them
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
#21719681 - 05/25/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I tried 4-HO-MET a couple of times. I gave me intense kidney-pains and smelly urine for a week. Fun but somewhat empty trip.
I am pretty much done with RCs. Yeah LSD and MDMA started out as research chemicals too, but they were actually researched by people who knew what they were doing (you know Albert Hoffmann etc.) in proper labs with proper equipment and proper methodology.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Tripsurfer]
#21719683 - 05/25/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ya, and what was shulgin doing?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: daz01]
#21719709 - 05/25/15 04:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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daz01 said: its relevant because we will discover, new, different and exciting substances when we "test" them
still not relevant
the drugs im talking about are tested and studied. RCs arent
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak] 3
#21719809 - 05/25/15 06:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: i dont waste my time learning about retarded drugs i have zero interest in doing
+1!!!
Those RC's... we COULD ingest them and slowly over the years learn which ones are good and which ones should be tossed out... Or you just grow mushrooms and have none of that shit.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: my3rdeye]
#21719836 - 05/25/15 06:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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XLCaps said: Not everyone can get L and you can't grow shrooms just anywhere, not if you have something to lose. Then you either got a big crap shoot or you wanna get in to agar.
I had a source for L. It took me years to find that one, and even he only gets it "sometimes." I'd honestly rather have 1P anyway, because I have shit to do.
Thats not the case with zombi though, he can get LSD. Anyone can get shrooms, come on. His posts just show a pattern of abuse to me. Someone who thinks they know it all and can handle anything. He fucking brags about how much drugs he takes. While I don't want to see anyone get their feet amputated, he had it coming. Can you imagine telling people why you have no feet, that you took ten times the normal dose of a sketchy drug? For the rest of your life. This isn't being a psychonaut explorer this is being a fucking idiot. This is why drugs are banned there is always some idiot who will take a massive dose. I think I will enjoy my nice safe LSD. I have never once thought it wasn't enough or boring, its awesome every single time.
I can't get shrooms. And I've looked. Either it's incredibly niche where I'm at, someone's hording it, or it's just not around. If I had a steady supply I wouldn't bother with anything else. I'd love to grow, but I rent a townhouse with little privacy as wrll as have kids so I'm not ready to start cultivating. I wanna do an outdoor cyan grow when I move though.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
#21719890 - 05/25/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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wrestler_az said: ya, and what was shulgin doing?
Shulgin, you guys, are not... not even close.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21719910 - 05/25/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm the self proclaimed RC master, my resume is LONG and RETARDED.
I've done all RCs, some were amazing, some almost killed me.
Wrecklessness is the enemy in the end, I mean, you can take too much tylonol and get fucked up and die, isn't it obvious it's the same for more research chemicals?
Zombi3 is a good friend of mine, and I hope everything turns out ok, freal.
Personally I think there are quite a few RCs that blow LSD and mushrooms away, by a long shot, but I'm sure a lot of people would tell me im wrong. Funny part is, I'm not guessing, and they are.
But all in all, the only research chemicals I would even bother suggesting to anyone are MXE (truly magical experience for those who are ready for it), and DOC, (yes, DOC, the culprit in this thread) because DOC is truly a mind boggling, long lasting psychedelic, I much prefer it to classical LSD as the visuals are incredible at higher doses. Higher doses being no larger then 25mg, anything higher, and you'll end up like poor Zombi3.
Seriously, I've been doing every research chemical that has come out for the past 5 years, and my health is not only fine, its fucking great, what does that say?
People need to learn and not spout random bullshit about things they know nothing about.
But I'm a special case, I've always had a deathwish, so unless you have a deathwish, I would suggest you stay away from RCs.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
#21719921 - 05/25/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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DOM is so much better than DOC dude. For real. I agree about MXE though.That shit is magic. So magic that I don't want it around, lol. There are some good RCs out there.
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wrestler_az said: ya, and what was shulgin doing?
Shulgin, you guys, are not... not even close.
Chemists, no. But a lot of the work involved trip reports. We have a whole forum for that. Then there's erowid, and guys like you and me. Even mushrooms were kind of an RC at one point in time, thousands of years ago. Imagine THAT. "Is this gonna kill me? Aww, fuck it." Then some dickhead had a good time and spread the word.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
#21719922 - 05/25/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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buest said: I've always had a deathwish
Famous last words..
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
#21719924 - 05/25/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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buest, you said people need to stop talking about things they nothing about, BUT....
nobody knows anything about RCs dude. thats my whole entire point
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Just because you eat alot of food and then critique it does not make you a chef..
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21719929 - 05/25/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I never said I was Shulgin but there's no point in a chef if someone's not gonna try their food.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21719932 - 05/25/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: buest, you said people need to stop talking about things they nothing about, BUT....
nobody knows anything about RCs dude. thats my whole entire point
You even said yourself thatyou haven't done any research on the subject so what makes you think anything you say is purposeful?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21719933 - 05/25/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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buest said: I've always had a deathwish
Famous last words..
Yes indeed, but I keep moving my feet and dancing in the heat, I'm more careful now, I don't do anything truly dangerous. But if you're gonna be doing RCs like i said, you have to understand the consequences!
I may not be the greatest chemist in the world, but I understand what a drug is doing to me on many levels, and I study the intricacies of all of them before even considering dosing.
Unless I have a giant tumor in my brain that I'm unaware of, my health is beyond perfect regardless of my RC use.
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Well when the chef gets his flambee' wrong, it doesnt kill the consumer.. And the igredients arent 'up in the air' on whether they're toxic or not..
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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daz01 said: its relevant because we will discover, new, different and exciting substances when we "test" them
still not relevant
the drugs im talking about are tested and studied. RCs arent
DOC is not an RC it's been around for decades.
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Bassfreak said: buest, you said people need to stop talking about things they nothing about, BUT....
nobody knows anything about RCs dude. thats my whole entire point
You even said yourself thatyou haven't done any research on the subject so what makes you think anything you say is purposeful?
prove me wrong then
lets hear ALL the longterm effects of all RCs then
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
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and personally, I have schizophrenia, many of you guys know this about me, any drug, regardless of its classification that can forgo the effects of my mental disorder are fucking AMAZING in my book, considering many of the best doctors in the world have told me I'm fucked up for life and there is nothing I can do about it. I have horrible nightmares every night and wake up screaming every day. Sooooo, would you rather me suffer, or try some chemical that may or may not be damaging to my body, that seems to GET RID of my symptoms.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21719942 - 05/25/15 07:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let's hear all the long term effects of LSD. Honestly Bassfreak, in regards to RCs you're just like those guys that go around saying they have a friend who did L and turned in to a glass of orange juice and everyone has to call him Citrus.
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XLCaps said: Let's hear all the long term effects of LSD. Honestly Bassfreak, in regards to RCs you're just like those guys that go around saying they have a friend who did L and turned in to a glass of orange juice and everyone has to call him Citrus.
i just love how you couldnt answer my question lol
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21719944 - 05/25/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Well when the chef gets his flambee' wrong, it doesnt kill the consumer.. And the igredients arent 'up in the air' on whether they're toxic or not..
I agree there but there's chemistry to back up claims of toxicity or harmlessness. It's still a big maybe, but research will conclude the safest alternatives. I should say though I'd never do synthnoids, molly alternatives, opiod analogues, ect. There are a lot of things I wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole. I got sample of etiz once and I just threw it out.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21719946 - 05/25/15 07:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't have to answer your question. You aren't familiar with indirect methods of conversation are you?
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you dont answer my question bc youre literally not capable
sry bro but i won this argument. you can say anything you want, it doesnt matter
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nobody ever pays attention to ol buestie, hahaha,
im out for the day, but my point to all this is,
if you believe they should ban something just because you don't understand the purpose or possibility of it, without giving it a chance, thinking it over, or allowing more research done, there is something seriously wrong.
That's the problem with ecstasy, shroom and LSD research right now, because of close minded people. . .
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
#21719958 - 05/25/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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buest said: nobody ever pays attention to ol buestie, hahaha,
im out for the day, but my point to all this is,
if you believe they should ban something just because you don't understand the purpose or possibility of it, without giving it a chance, thinking it over, or allowing more research done, there is something seriously wrong.
That's the problem with ecstasy, shroom and LSD research right now, because of close minded people. . .
i responded to one of your comments on the last page...
whats wrong with wanting more research? im not saying these substances shud be banned. you shud just be smart enough to not touch them cuz we dont know anything about them. like you can act like you do but you really dont
then when you start mixing shit to like thats so much worse
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
#21719983 - 05/25/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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buest said: and personally, I have schizophrenia, many of you guys know this about me, any drug, regardless of its classification that can forgo the effects of my mental disorder are fucking AMAZING in my book, considering many of the best doctors in the world have told me I'm fucked up for life and there is nothing I can do about it. I have horrible nightmares every night and wake up screaming every day. Sooooo, would you rather me suffer, or try some chemical that may or may not be damaging to my body, that seems to GET RID of my symptoms.
That kinda contradicts your assertion that you are healthy.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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i understand your point, but there is a difference between mental health and physical health, these substances didn't cause my schizophrenia, that was caused when I was completely sober.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: buest]
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Oh I have no doubt that they didn't cause your schizo. Your schizo may be how you can get away with it.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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Bassfreak said: buest, you said people need to stop talking about things they nothing about, BUT....
nobody knows anything about RCs dude. thats my whole entire point
You even said yourself thatyou haven't done any research on the subject so what makes you think anything you say is purposeful?
prove me wrong then
lets hear ALL the longterm effects of all RCs then
Why should they prove you wrong when you're the one making the assertion? Typical bassfreak. so what's your definition of an RC then? If compounds like DOC that have proven track records of studying and testing are RCs in your book, then all that MDMA you've been doing at your little custy fests are RCs too son
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: I think I'll pass and tend my cakes
 I gotta agree with Zappa on this one. I did some DOB (in very low doses compared to Zombi3) once and it wasnt on par with any tryptamine imo.
Regardless, I wish Zombi3 the best. Hopefully he will be back and posting soon. He had a lot to contribute to this forum.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Bassfreak said: buest, you said people need to stop talking about things they nothing about, BUT....
nobody knows anything about RCs dude. thats my whole entire point
You even said yourself thatyou haven't done any research on the subject so what makes you think anything you say is purposeful?
prove me wrong then
lets hear ALL the longterm effects of all RCs then
Why should they prove you wrong when you're the one making the assertion? Typical bassfreak. so what's your definition of an RC then? If compounds like DOC that have proven track records of studying and testing are RCs in your book, then all that MDMA you've been doing at your little custy fests are RCs too son

mdma isnt an RC bro
sorry to break it to ya
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720337 - 05/25/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why not? We still don't know all the long term effects and its proven to be neurotoxic With prologned use.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak] 2
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But it used to be
Just like every other drug anyone has ever taken
Your argument is so flawed I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson] 1
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OhMrJohnson said: But it used to be
Just like every other drug anyone has ever taken
Your argument is so flawed I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you
Hahaha I know. I just can't help myself. Plus its funny when he makes himself look retarded
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said: But it used to be
Just like every other drug anyone has ever taken
Your argument is so flawed I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you
im talking about the present dude. and presently some drugs are just drugs and some are RCs. simply just a fact
and please do bother, we just both know im right
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: wrestler_az]
#21720353 - 05/25/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I remeber you and carnage with the drama threads she made about her love for you
but dude get a reagent. test kit
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Yeah cuz Bassfreak is never wrong
The concept of Bassfreak being wrong is so unthinkable how could anyone possibly entertain it
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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im talking about the present dude. and presently some drugs are just drugs and some are RCs. simply just a fact
This is literally the dumbest explanation I've ever heard in my entire existence on this planet.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said: Yeah cuz Bassfreak is never wrong
The concept of Bassfreak being wrong is so unthinkable how could anyone possibly entertain it
You're wrong bro, just accept it.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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OhMrJohnson said: Yeah cuz Bassfreak is never wrong
The concept of Bassfreak being wrong is so unthinkable how could anyone possibly entertain it
its just funny how you wont even try to argue
i wonder why...
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720364 - 05/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I already made that clear
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#21720366 - 05/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah cuz you have no argument
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720367 - 05/25/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its not worth him losing 50 iq points.. that's why
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#21720372 - 05/25/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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no its cuz you guys dont have an argument. thats why ur both dodging the real topic at hand
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Correct! Because how can there be an argument when you're dealing with someone who's never wrong?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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Correct! Because how can there be an argument when you're dealing with someone who's never wrong?
lol keep dodging
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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no its cuz you guys dont have an argument. thats why ur both dodging the real topic at hand
You didn't even answer any of my questions. What constitutes an RC to you? What makes an RC an RC and a drug a drug by your definition?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720390 - 05/25/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Malcolm_Xtasy said: Its not worth him losing 50 iq points.. that's why
no its cuz you guys dont have an argument. thats why ur both dodging the real topic at hand
You didn't even answer any of my questions. What constitutes an RC to you? What makes an RC an RC and a drug a drug by your definition?
RC - very little to no research of the drug. also random chemicals. idc if theres research, shit like DOC is unheard of unless youre a drug nerd, so therefore its an RC
drugs - established names that almost any person will know and extensive research has to have been done
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] 1
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Personally I like many RCs. Of course I love the classics as well. LSD will always be #1 to me. But I like novel experiences as well. DOM for example is one of the best chems I've taken. It's in the same family as DOC, which is what zombie od'd on, though it's been around far longer. 5 mgs is a great dose. That's what I took, and that's the dose I have left as well. Won't be taking more then that. At 5 mgs it's a wonderful chem, it's safe, and it's not gonna cause a 3 day freakout that the STP named DOM doses caused in the 60s. Cause it's not an overdose. MXE as well is another favorite of mine, and is an RC. While some RCs are undoubtably dangerous....too dangerous to fuck with (nBOMes & fent analogues, I'm looking at you) they can't all be lumped together. Just like lumping weed with heroin is ridiculous. It comes down to researching the chems, and not being a dumbass. Let's not forget that zombie wasn't just being reckless with RCs. He had the same behaviors with opiates & coke. The fact that it was an RC & not heroin/coke that landed him in the hospital is just happenstance. Had he not od'd on the DOC, he have winded up ODing on opiates at some point.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720407 - 05/25/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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drugs - established names that almost any person will know and extensive research has to have been done
Who let this guy off the short bus.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720412 - 05/25/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks for admitting im right lol
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720419 - 05/25/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just pointed out how you completely contradicted yourself. But its cool. I know special needs individuals already have it hard enough, so I'll let you have this one, sport.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720430 - 05/25/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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actions speak louder than words and if you really thought i was wrong you woulda had a counter-argument, but you didnt. just more word vomit
it doesnt matter if theres some research. if theres a drug your average person isnt aware of, then it isnt really a drug, its an RC, theres countless RCs no one has heard of. everyones heard of meth, weed, heroin, acid, etc etc
if someone asks someone like us what DOC is, the best we can really say to make a cluless person understand is "its like acid", but its not acid. its a completely different substance
so yes, a drug requires research and notoriety
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720433 - 05/25/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So all you care about is what's popular.
You know, they're doing actual medical research with DOC..
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You know, they're doing actual medical research with DOC..
u shud try reading. hmu after you do that
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720449 - 05/25/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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You couldn't understand Malcolm so I don't see why I'd expect much more from you int his instance. One of these days I'm gonna add up all the times you had no idea what people were saying to you.
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lol please change the subject more
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720463 - 05/25/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's nothing more to say. You're narrowminded and don't understand simple things.
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its just hilarious how you keep changing the subject. stay on topic or be quiet
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720477 - 05/25/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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If the topic at hand was that simple as well as cared for by you, you would respond in a manner that was conducive to the conversation rather than putting the focus on the comment itself. Why is that? You can't really argue with anything anyone has said other than 'ur wrong' and 'old drugs are not new drugs.' Which really, doesn't say much aside from harm reduction.
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I really hope he's just trolling and isn't this dumb in real life. I really do.
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i just think its funny how you cant actually prove anything ive said wrong
all you guys are doing is personal attacks. like as if that means anything
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720494 - 05/25/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The only time he trolls is when he's been arguing for long enough that he realizes he's wrong and needs an out.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720501 - 05/25/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude just stop, the reason no one is presenting a counter argument is due to your arrogant claims of you being right without presenting a solid case.
The DOx, and 2c-x family have been studied and used as long as MDMA. AMT has been used longer than all novel phenethylamine derivatives.
Classic psychedelics are only called "classic" because they were popular, kind of like The Beatles opposed to The Thirteenth Floor Elevators. It's classic vs the obscure.
Hell even salvia and iboga aren't considered "classics" but they've been used for centuries before any synthesized psychedelic.
Please know what you're talking about before starting a debate and have the willingness to listen to alternate perspectives before claiming yourself the winner.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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I showed you how you were contradicting yourself.
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RC - very little to no research of the drug. also random chemicals.
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idc if theres research,
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drugs - established names that almost any person will know and extensive research has to have been done
Who let this guy off the short bus.
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Then you call it word vomit. But the most hilarious part about it is that they're your words! You literally called your own argument word vomit, which is exactly what it is. But of course, you're entirely too dim witted to understand.
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The DOx, and 2c-x family have been studied and used as long as MDMA. AMT has been used longer than all novel phenethylamine derivatives.
Classic psychedelics are only called "classic" because they were popular, kind of like The Beatles opposed to The Thirteenth Floor Elevators. It's classic vs the obscure.
Hell even salvia and iboga aren't considered "classics" but they've been used for centuries before any synthesized psychedelic.
Please know what you're talking about before starting a debate and have the willingness to listen to alternate perspectives before claiming yourself the winner.
You're wrong bro
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Darwinism - just let it happen.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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malcom. let me put it in other words
drugs require both notoriety and research. if a substance doesnt have both, then its an RC
easy enough for you? jeez
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Arctic W. Fox]
#21720516 - 05/25/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Arctic W. Fox said: Darwinism - just let it happen.
precisely 
RCs = darwinism
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720519 - 05/25/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anything is a drug. Your ridiculously narrow view is punctuated by the mass of substances out there. RC is a placeholder term as much as the word drug, or God. The polio vaccine was an RC.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720524 - 05/25/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yukon Cornelius said: Dude just stop, the reason no one is presenting a counter argument is due to your arrogant claims of you being right without presenting a solid case.
The DOx, and 2c-x family have been studied and used as long as MDMA. AMT has been used longer than all novel phenethylamine derivatives.
Classic psychedelics are only called "classic" because they were popular, kind of like The Beatles opposed to The Thirteenth Floor Elevators. It's classic vs the obscure.
Hell even salvia and iboga aren't considered "classics" but they've been used for centuries before any synthesized psychedelic.
Please know what you're talking about before starting a debate and have the willingness to listen to alternate perspectives before claiming yourself the winner.
You're wrong bro
Nice, I can clearly see this is just a troll dick measuring competition.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720526 - 05/25/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, I guess we just agree to disagree then
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Yukon Cornelius said:
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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
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Yukon Cornelius said: Dude just stop, the reason no one is presenting a counter argument is due to your arrogant claims of you being right without presenting a solid case.
The DOx, and 2c-x family have been studied and used as long as MDMA. AMT has been used longer than all novel phenethylamine derivatives.
Classic psychedelics are only called "classic" because they were popular, kind of like The Beatles opposed to The Thirteenth Floor Elevators. It's classic vs the obscure.
Hell even salvia and iboga aren't considered "classics" but they've been used for centuries before any synthesized psychedelic.
Please know what you're talking about before starting a debate and have the willingness to listen to alternate perspectives before claiming yourself the winner.
You're wrong bro
Nice, I can clearly see this is just a troll dick measuring competition.
I was kidding
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Yukon Cornelius said:
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Malcolm_Xtasy said:
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Yukon Cornelius said: Dude just stop, the reason no one is presenting a counter argument is due to your arrogant claims of you being right without presenting a solid case.
The DOx, and 2c-x family have been studied and used as long as MDMA. AMT has been used longer than all novel phenethylamine derivatives.
Classic psychedelics are only called "classic" because they were popular, kind of like The Beatles opposed to The Thirteenth Floor Elevators. It's classic vs the obscure.
Hell even salvia and iboga aren't considered "classics" but they've been used for centuries before any synthesized psychedelic.
Please know what you're talking about before starting a debate and have the willingness to listen to alternate perspectives before claiming yourself the winner.
You're wrong bro
Nice, I can clearly see this is just a troll dick measuring competition.
That's bassfreak's thing. 'ur wrong'
Just do a search, you'll probably get thousands of hits.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720539 - 05/25/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cuz sarcasm translates so well without a graemlin. 
In either case sorry I lumped you in with bassfreak's asinine behaviour
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Yukon Cornelius said: Dude just stop, the reason no one is presenting a counter argument is due to your arrogant claims of you being right without presenting a solid case.
The DOx, and 2c-x family have been studied and used as long as MDMA. AMT has been used longer than all novel phenethylamine derivatives.
Classic psychedelics are only called "classic" because they were popular, kind of like The Beatles opposed to The Thirteenth Floor Elevators. It's classic vs the obscure.
Hell even salvia and iboga aren't considered "classics" but they've been used for centuries before any synthesized psychedelic.
Please know what you're talking about before starting a debate and have the willingness to listen to alternate perspectives before claiming yourself the winner.
sorry but nobody outside of drug nerds has a fucking clue what DOC or the 2c-x family is
those are RCs
sorry that youre wrong
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720547 - 05/25/15 11:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Again, so you only care about what's popular. Which makes you a high school kid.
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read dude
holy fuck. read my posts bro. reading comprehension. shits pretty tough lol
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720550 - 05/25/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Because you have to be a drug nerd to know what you're talking about. Chemist vs some guy who is completely ignorant and is proud of it.
Seems like a fair fight.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720551 - 05/25/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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'Nobody knows.'
Yeah, if they don't know Kanye either they must be an asshole or an idiot.
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If a 100,000 people have used it a million times the research has been done and it is no longer an RC
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720557 - 05/25/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: If a 100,000 people have used it a million times the research has been done and it is no longer an RC
Precisely, so DOC and 2c-b are exempt from that category.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720559 - 05/25/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Then it becomes a 'researched chemical'
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I would imagine even MXE would fall in to that category. Synthnoids ect...
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From a pharmacological stand point yes, however it hasn't been around long enough for most folks to call it well researched. Only about 5 years since it hit the scene, but that's 5x more time than the majority of FDA approved pharmaceuticals.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21720574 - 05/25/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Then it becomes a 'researched chemical' 
uh no. doing a drug does not equal research
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It sorta does..
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#21720582 - 05/25/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Then it becomes a 'researched chemical' 
uh no. doing a drug does not equal research
Hmm, I wonder what they do instead of having humans ingest it. Shove it up a leprechaun's ass to see if his eye's light up green? Nothing safer than that.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21720586 - 05/25/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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PiHKaL and TiHKaL are definitely research. All Shulgin did really was cook up a bunch of stuff and get high. Kind of a martyr thing really.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21720588 - 05/25/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: It sorta does..
lol so simply by getting fucked up on a drug means you reaearched it? uh no
getting fucked up and researching are 2 totally different things
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720593 - 05/25/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: It sorta does..
lol so simply by getting fucked up on a drug means you reaearched it? uh no
getting fucked up and researching are 2 totally different things
What about all the freely available information on the internet? It doesn't really become research until someone puts in on paper and it's read. The fact that people are taking the time to do these things is what's making some of them worthwhile.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720595 - 05/25/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol so simply by getting fucked up on a drug means you reaearched it? uh no
getting fucked up and researching are 2 totally different things
Technically if you take a second glance at something, you just "researched" it on some level..
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720597 - 05/25/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: It sorta does..
lol so simply by getting fucked up on a drug means you reaearched it? uh no
getting fucked up and researching are 2 totally different things
Please elaborate, I'm sure you know all about the in's and out's of drug trials.
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XLCaps said: PiHKaL and TiHKaL are definitely research. All Shulgin did really was cook up a bunch of stuff and get high. Kind of a martyr thing really.
Badass is what it was.. wouldnt I have liked to have a sit down chat with him..
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theres nothing to elaborate
doing a drug recreationally and researching/studying a drug are 2 diff things. if you dont understand that then i really cant help you
maybe use a dictionary?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720608 - 05/25/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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What you're talking about is intent. Intention is not something easily defined.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21720611 - 05/25/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whenever I argue with bassfreak I feel like im on the shittiest troll gameshow on earth.
OK bassfreak ill take Mega troll for $1000
Sorry that's incorrect, the correct answer was actually RC.
Thanks for playing!
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im not talking about intent
im talking about the diff btwn getting fucked up and researching a drug. one is getting fucked up and having fun and exploring your mind. the other is legitimiately trying to understand this drug and doing tests on it in controlled enviornments
how is that confusing?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720620 - 05/25/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: im not talking about intent
im talking about the diff btwn getting fucked up and researching a drug. one is getting fucked up and having fun and exploring your mind. the other is legitimiately trying to understand this drug and doing tests on it in controlled enviornments
how is that confusing?
Don't you have to get fucked up technically to explore your mind? Get the fuck outta here with that Bassfreak!
LOL
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720621 - 05/25/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I gave a number threshold. Do you disagree with it?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720622 - 05/25/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most people I've met have never heard of DMT, so I guess it's a research chemical.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720625 - 05/25/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: If a 100,000 people have used it a million times the research has been done and it is no longer an RC
By this logic then NBOMes are no longer research chemicals.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720630 - 05/25/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I gave a number threshold. Do you disagree with it?
i just dont think putting a number on it really solves anything
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720632 - 05/25/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I gave a number threshold. Do you disagree with it?
i just dont think putting a number on it really solves anything
What meets your criteria then?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720633 - 05/25/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's how the FDA does it. What do you think clinical trials are?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720639 - 05/25/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: That's how the FDA does it. What do you think clinical trials are?
yeah but clinical trials involve research and its in a controlled environment
i mean out of the number you gave me who knows how many people did what?
its just not about frequency imo
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720641 - 05/25/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: im not talking about intent
im talking about the diff btwn getting fucked up and researching a drug. one is getting fucked up and having fun and exploring your mind. the other is legitimiately trying to understand this drug and doing tests on it in controlled enviornments
how is that confusing?
Actually what you are describing is intent....
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720647 - 05/25/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So your argument is that there is nothing because nobody has any idea what they have taken?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720648 - 05/25/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not necessarily, a bunch of people taking the drug is only a part of double-blind placebo controlled clinical trials.
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Not always but yeah. Still, it is numbers. By that criteria LSD is a research chemical and thus the term loses all meaning
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720653 - 05/25/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: That's how the FDA does it. What do you think clinical trials are?
yeah but clinical trials involve research and its in a controlled environment
i mean out of the number you gave me who knows how many people did what?
its just not about frequency imo
Are you aware that there have been clinical trials performed on the drugs you believe are "RC's"?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720668 - 05/25/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Not always but yeah. Still, it is numbers. By that criteria LSD is a research chemical and thus the term loses all meaning
besides the fact that lsd is probly the most researched psychedelic that exists
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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zappaisgod said: Not always but yeah. Still, it is numbers. By that criteria LSD is a research chemical and thus the term loses all meaning
besides the fact that lsd is probly the most researched psychedelic that exists
Wrong, that's mescaline. The first ever identified psychedelic, keep trying.
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zappaisgod said: Not always but yeah. Still, it is numbers. By that criteria LSD is a research chemical and thus the term loses all meaning
besides the fact that lsd is probly the most researched psychedelic that exists
Wrong, that's mescaline. The first ever dentified psychedelic, keep trying.
lol prove it
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: Not always but yeah. Still, it is numbers. By that criteria LSD is a research chemical and thus the term loses all meaning
Well, it is is a pretty meaningless term IMO. There's more research into 2C-B and DOM than some other 'classics', and even much of the research done with 'LSD' is actually done with deuterized LSD, a separate but virtually identical compound..
'emerging drugs', 'novel compounds' sounds way better and easier to understand than 'research chemicals'. Within, say, 10 years of entering the market I would no longer consider it an 'emerging drug'
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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It requires a simple google search of mescaline+research, maybe you'll learn something you didn't hear from some guy who knew a friend of a guy.
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Yukon Cornelius said: It requires a simple google search of mescaline+research, maybe you'll learn something you didn't hear from some guy who knew a friend of a guy.
oh ok
you convinced me lol
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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Yep, because it's easier to type a snarky response than learn something new that contradicts a flawed way of thinking.
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Yukon Cornelius said: Yep cuz it's easier to type a snarky response than learn something new that contradicts a flawed way of thinking.
no dude i mean your last post, i mean, theres no way around it
you convinced me lol. no way i can read that and try to argue with you lol
just too much evidence
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720694 - 05/25/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is your use of the acronym lol how you convey sarcasm?
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no i use it as a synonym for the word "poop"
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Right, well this is where I'll be taking my leave. Have far more constructive things to do with my time.
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lol peace
thanks for proving nothing
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720713 - 05/25/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Not always but yeah. Still, it is numbers. By that criteria LSD is a research chemical and thus the term loses all meaning
besides the fact that lsd is probly the most researched psychedelic that exists
Wrong, that's mescaline. The first ever dentified psychedelic, keep trying.
lol prove it
Earliest published journal on mescaline was 1930
LSD was 1943
https://www.erowid.org/references/refs.php?S=mescaline
https://www.erowid.org/references/refs.php?A=SearchAdvanced&AndOr=OR&Title=lsd&Author=lsd&Abstract=lsd&OldSort=DPubA&NewSort=&Start=0&S=lsd&SField=&Max=100&Sort=DPubA
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720717 - 05/25/15 12:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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all that proves is that they researched mescal first. not more
nice try tho
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720723 - 05/25/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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LOL
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720726 - 05/25/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So mescaline is a research chemical then.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720729 - 05/25/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah keep laughing
its funny you thought u were right. i agree
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: D.M.T]
#21720731 - 05/25/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: So mescaline is a research chemical then.
mescal is a known drug and its been researched
its a drug
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: D.M.T]
#21720734 - 05/25/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: So mescaline is a research chemical then.
Nah too many people have heard of it
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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D.M.T said: So mescaline is a research chemical then.
Nah too many people have heard of it
precisely
i know its taken you a bit, but youre starting to get it
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720741 - 05/25/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: all that proves is that they researched mescal first. not more
nice try tho
Yukon said mescaline was the first researched psychedelic and you said prove it. So I did. 
Try to keep up man
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720743 - 05/25/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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What about DMT?
Hardly anyone has really heard of it that isn't a drug nerd.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
#21720746 - 05/25/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: all that proves is that they researched mescal first. not more
nice try tho
Yukon said mescaline was the first researched psychedelic and you said prove it. So I did. 
Try to keep up man
no i said lsd was the MOST researched then he said mescaline was
just cuz it was first doesnt mean its the most researched
reading comprehension? what the fuck is that shit?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
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Bassfreak said: all that proves is that they researched mescal first. not more
nice try tho
Yukon said mescaline was the first researched psychedelic and you said prove it. So I did. 
Try to keep up man
Yes but you were like 40 years off. Mescaline was first researched academically in 1897 by Arthur Heffter, doing essentially what Alexander Shulgin did. Isolating compounds and trying them on himself vs. the raw material.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720759 - 05/25/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: all that proves is that they researched mescal first. not more
nice try tho
Yukon said mescaline was the first researched psychedelic and you said prove it. So I did. 
Try to keep up man
no i said lsd was the MOST researched then he said mescaline was
just cuz it was first doesnt mean its the most researched
reading comprehension? what the fuck is that shit?
You're wrong
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: D.M.T]
#21720761 - 05/25/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: all that proves is that they researched mescal first. not more
nice try tho
Yukon said mescaline was the first researched psychedelic and you said prove it. So I did. 
Try to keep up man
Yes but you were like 40 years off. Mescaline was first researched academically in 1897 by Arthur Heffter, doing essentially what Alexander Shulgin did. Isolating compounds and trying them on himself vs. the raw material.
Well shit, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info
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#21720763 - 05/25/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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so wrong bro
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak] 1
#21720768 - 05/25/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Take it to the PM fucking shroomery daycare
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#21720773 - 05/25/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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AddyZomeD said: Take it to the PM fucking shroomery daycare
dude feel free to leave this thread
no one gives a shit if youre here or not
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haha thanks!
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720795 - 05/25/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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ur wrong
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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AddyZomeD said: Take it to the PM fucking shroomery daycare
dude feel free to leave this thread
no one gives a shit if youre here or not
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: SunnyD]
#21720804 - 05/25/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol ok kiddo
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720815 - 05/25/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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melt all over D floor

have a nice day ya here now?
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720859 - 05/25/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Give it a fucking rest, man. You are relentlessly arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin bullshit
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
#21720863 - 05/25/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also before you got an attitude i agree that lsd probaly has the most research in the shortest amount of time
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: zappaisgod]
#21720874 - 05/25/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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im just proving points
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#21720919 - 05/25/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: im not talking about intent
im talking about the diff btwn getting fucked up and researching a drug. one is getting fucked up and having fun and exploring your mind. the other is legitimiately trying to understand this drug and doing tests on it in controlled enviornments
how is that confusing?
You are talking about intent.
So Shulgin didn't do both of those things?
Ok shroomery, please +1 this post if you think Shulgin enjoyed himself.
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Patlal]
#21720956 - 05/25/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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"HIGH ON TOILET QUOTING SOMEBODY!!!"
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Bassfreak]
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zappaisgod said: Give it a fucking rest, man. You are relentlessly arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin bullshit
im just proving points 
Like I said. Angels on the head of a pin. To be fair I have the same message for the people arguing with you
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Well, now that we all got that out of our system...
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: Amanita86]
#21721052 - 05/25/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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That would be great. Now I have this to say
Get well soon Zombie. When you do we should have a chat.
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#21721063 - 05/25/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for being a horrid asshole to me on the comedown of my final blackout it really made me think and it helped me quit and realize how dumb i had become
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Re: GUYS. PLEASE USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY!!! [Re: SunnyD]
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I've updated my the OP. just to add an image to it all.
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