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How to anonymously download torrents?
    #21715960 - 05/23/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

So i got a letter from ATT warning me about downloading movies illegally. Never had this problem and ive downloaded since 2003ish.

Can someone guide me to a fullproof way to avoid my ISP tracking my business with torrents?


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Re: How to anonymously download torrents? [Re: ak47myth]
    #21716599 - 05/24/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The way they find you is 99.9% of the time via report that comes from whoever owns the movie or show, taking lists of people straight off the torrent.

Also most of the time they care about the people UPLOADING not so much the DOWNLOADING side.  Aka the sharing people.  I've found that if I set utorrent to automatically STOP seeding and uploading 1 minute after I finish downloading, I never get letters or calls anymore.  Its when I reinstall and forget to set that feature, or my woman does it from a new devices, then she starts torrenting a season of something or a movie and forgets about it overnight to download, so for however many hours later she was seeding the thing long after we hit 100%.

THEN I get caught, for the seeding.  Now since torrents generally are setup so if you dont upload then you get shit download speeds or none at all (depending on software and method) so you do want to make sure you are seeding just for the tme you download.

I'm not famliar with any FOR SURE 100% methods to completely hide your torrenting just because if the anture of torrents and how they work.  You have to connect to it in order to get pieces from people, and you have to give your IP/connection info to the other people on the tracker so they can get pieces from you and you from them.  The movie companies and such just have to conect to the same tracker you and everyone else is downloading from and look at a list of all the IP addresses connected, then send the DCMA forms to your ISP.


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Re: How to anonymously download torrents? [Re: mndfreeze]
    #21718502 - 05/24/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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If your ISP sends you a letter accusing you of illegal file-sharing it is most likely doing so at the behest of intellectual property rights holders who've identified an IP address engaged in illegal file-sharing as belonging to one of that ISP's customers. A good way to think of your IP address is as your internet connection's license plate on the internet that every other computer your online activities come in contact with gets to see. Like the license plate on a vehicle the IP address doesn't directly identify its owner, but (together with the date and time if you have a dynamic IP address like most residential internet subscribers) it does provide enough information to allow the IP-issuing party (your ISP in this example) to identify you. And if they are obliged to cooperate with authorities or intellectual property rights holders in enforcing copyright they can and must send you such a letter.

By using a VPN (short for "Virtual Private Network"), you get a kind of second license plate (IP address) that you attach over the original one, i.e. over the IP address assigned to you by your ISP. If you use a good VPN provider and properly configured client software other computers on the internet can only see your second, VPN-issued IP address. For example my current IP address as I post this is 46.165.208.203, belonging to a server with the fully qualified domain name de2x.mullvad.net. All someone can get from this information is that I am accessing the internet through a VPN provider called Mullvad. Since they can't see my ISP-issued IP address behind the VPN address, they don't know what ISP to complain to about what specific IP address (customer). If anyone wants information about my file-sharing or Shroomery activities the only lead they have is my VPN provider, Mullvad. Now if you have a VPN provider that doesn't take its business serious they will have kept logs over what ISP-issued IP addresses have been assigned with VPN-issued IP addresses at what time and be able to tell rights holders that the IP address 46.165.208.203 that was torrenting this-and-that at such-and-such time was really oushdosudhg92864946284602.att.com or whatever and then they can demand ATT identify and take action against whoever oushdosudhg92864946284602 is, something ATT of course knows from its own logs. So using a VPN is not per se a solution to your problems, you need a good one that doesn't keep logs so they cannot look up and provide your ISP-issued original IP address even if they were forced to cooperate.

Another way for ISPs to identify illegal file-sharing activities is to directly monitor all the data you send or receive through your internet connection. A VPN prevents this by making sure all data between your computer and the VPN server, including the middle part where your ISP's infrastructure sits, is encrypted. So even if your ISP tried to they wouldn't be able to figure out what you are doing on the internet, including file-sharing.

So if you want to torrent without having to worry about ISPs or the authorities taking action against you the way to go is to use a VPN. A good VPN meets the following criteria:

    1. Has client software that prevents something called "DNS leaks" and blocks your internet connection should you be disconnected from the VPN server, so nothing can accidentally be read by your ISP.
    2. Keeps no logs.
    3. Allows you to sign up with minimal information.
    4. Accepts anonymous payment methods (cash or Bitcoin).
    5. Is run by a dedicated team that understands network engineering and promptly updates its client software whenever new vulnerabilities affecting the quality of the encryption used by VPN connections are discovered and fixed.

Based on these criteria I recommend Swedish VPN provider Mullvad. They meet all criteria and while there are multiple VPN providers that accept Bitcoin they also accept cash sent by snail mail, which I vastly prefer over Bitcoin since whatever use case I might have for Bitcoin isn't worth the time and effort needed to figure out how to use Bitcoin with proper anonymization. If you have time you can read this Torrentfreak review of most major western VPN providers, based on their responses to Torrentfreak's survey of their policies.
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Re: How to anonymously download torrents? [Re: ALesserCrowley]
    #21718547 - 05/24/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Mullvad costs USD 7 per month and they have a three-hour trial. If you're concerned about your privacy you can get an account number, write it on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope together with some cash and mail it to their office in Sweden. You'll be able to reconnect using that account number and their client software once they've received and processed the payment. I snail mail them EUR 20 every four months or so a few weeks before my subscription expires. Those who are not too concerned about their privacy can just pay with a credit card or PayPal.

Now if you're really cheap you can of course keep getting a new account number every three hours. Their no-logging policy prevents them from storing your IP address so they have no way of knowing that it is you who is constantly creating new accounts. Or, and that is always the issue with VPNs because you're unable to independently verify whether they practice what they preach, they really do know that it's you but allow you to create new account anyway so as to not risk losing their users' trust and doom their business by revealing that they in fact do log IP addresses contrary to what they claim.

If there are any "free" VPN providers out there I would be extremely skeptical of their motives (read: law enforcement honeypot).
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Re: How to anonymously download torrents? [Re: ak47myth]
    #24416529 - 06/19/17 12:09 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Whoever runs the VPN can still track your activity, since you're sending your traffic through their machines.  VPNs are just talisman thinking, imo.

The best way to avoid DMCA notices is to use a private tracker, since those notices are basically issued on account of people basically joining the swarm, seeing who's there and then issuing notices to the relevant ISPs that some machine on their network was asking people to send it a teevee show.  Then the ISP sends you a letter that literally does nothing aside from fulfilling their legal obligation to send you a letter.

That being said, not seeding torrents is a dick move and you will be banned from a private tracker if your ratio is too low.


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Re: How to anonymously download torrents? [Re: chibiabos]
    #24418059 - 06/19/17 03:13 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

this is a dead thread from 2 years ago so i'm sure the op have figured something out.  the best way to not get caught is to use small private sites btw.


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