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Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke
    #21713699 - 05/23/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante]
    #21713726 - 05/23/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

God, that is so disgusting. That reminds me of another time that cops tapered a 17 year old diabetic who was administering his insulin because they assumed he was shooting up drugs. It was an emergency and his blood pressure got so low that he had a seizure while he was getting arrested.

They probably maced this guy having a stroke because they thought he was a crackhead or something. Further proof of how the drug war fucks innocent people.

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Crystal G]
    #21713737 - 05/23/15 10:38 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.




Oh also just in.. The cop who jumped on the hood of a car with 2 unarmed occupants and from that position fired 49 shots into them, got a Not Guilty on all counts.

But lets focus on tazering and pepperspraying a guy in a car who's having a friggin stroke.


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante]
    #21713786 - 05/23/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i didnt watch the video cuz there's enough negativity around here already, but yea man, cops be cray cray, just people in general really


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: zZZz]
    #21713811 - 05/23/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Clearly the guy was asking for it

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante] * 2
    #21713857 - 05/23/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






there's something fundamentally wrong with the criminal element in this country
and the police have escalated their responses to match and there's something
fundamentally wrong with foreigners that like to believe they know what's
actually happening in the US

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713865 - 05/23/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

the police make criminals, or they make em even worse. they fucking breed these things man


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: zZZz]
    #21713868 - 05/23/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

zZZz said:
the police make criminals, or they make em even worse. they fucking breed these things man





so with this logic, if there were no cops there would be no criminals?

maybe you could elaborate on this fantastic statement of yours

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante]
    #21713873 - 05/23/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Does it explain what first drew the coppers attention to the guy in the first place?


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713881 - 05/23/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

depends on what ur definition of a criminal is


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: zZZz]
    #21713892 - 05/23/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

zZZz said:
depends on what ur definition of a criminal is





no need to dance around this one, you made a stupid statement so now is time to back it up

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Amanita86]
    #21713896 - 05/23/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Does it explain what first drew the coppers attention to the guy in the first place?





driving down the wrong side of the road and then stopped in an intersection

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O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713899 - 05/23/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
the police make criminals, or they make em even worse. they fucking breed these things man





so with this logic, if there were no cops there would be no criminals?

maybe you could elaborate on this fantastic statement of yours





One of my good buddies is constantly harassed by the police because he is black, he's never been charged except for a speeding ticket once

Many cops will make you out to be a criminal whether you are or not.

Then because of this mistreatment, they breed contempt for the police because, like my friend, get pissed off for being treated as a criminal when they are not. He doesn't even do drugs, not even drink

Guilty until proven innocent in a cops eye

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713901 - 05/23/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

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Does it explain what first drew the coppers attention to the guy in the first place?





driving down the wrong side of the road and then stopped in an intersection



Whooops..


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Re: O_O [Re: Uzziel]
    #21713909 - 05/23/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
One of my good buddies is constantly harassed by the police because he is black, he's never been charged except for a speeding ticket once




it happens to white people too so stop making this about race


Quote:

Many cops will make you out to be a criminal whether you are or not.






and does that actually make you a criminal?


Quote:

Then because of this mistreatment, they breed contempt for the police because, like my friend, get pissed off for being treated as a criminal when they are not. He doesn't even do drugs, not even drink






is it criminal to be pissed off or to have contempt for the cops? did your
friend go on a rape/robbery/murder spree because the cops bothered him?

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713916 - 05/23/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

zZZz said:
depends on what ur definition of a criminal is





no need to dance around this one, you made a stupid statement so now is time to back it up




what's the point of explaining it to u if u know everything already

ur set in ur ways and i cant help u until u stop that nonsense


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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713921 - 05/23/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You missed the point where I said "Cops see guilty until proven innocent" to sum up my post

And if you think cops aren't racist down here in texas you're a hoot Pris, I have been in the car when he's ben harassed for no reason

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante]
    #21713926 - 05/23/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: zZZz]
    #21713934 - 05/23/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

zZZz said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
depends on what ur definition of a criminal is





no need to dance around this one, you made a stupid statement so now is time to back it up




what's the point of explaining it to u if u know everything already

ur set in ur ways and i cant help u until u stop that nonsense





so you once again made a dumb statement you cant back up, congrats on the consistency

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Re: O_O [Re: Uzziel]
    #21713947 - 05/23/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Uzziel said:
You missed the point where I said "Cops see guilty until proven innocent" to sum up my post




does that make someone a criminal?

Quote:

And if you think cops aren't racist down here in texas you're a hoot Pris, I have been in the car when he's ben harassed for no reason





if you think everyone in texas isnt a racist then you're a hoot. I've been
stopped for shit I never did such as armed robbery when the cops claimed my car
fit the description of the one leaving the scene and there was literally no
fucking way any other car on the road matched mine, I was stopped for car theft
when I was fucking walking so as I said, this isnt exclusive to blacks, it
happens to whites as well so dont make it into something it's not

now, once more, does any of that make him a criminal?

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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713952 - 05/23/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Uzziel said:
You missed the point where I said "Cops see guilty until proven innocent" to sum up my post




does that make someone a criminal?




It can..


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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713958 - 05/23/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Uzziel said:
You missed the point where I said "Cops see guilty until proven innocent" to sum up my post




does that make someone a criminal?

Quote:

And if you think cops aren't racist down here in texas you're a hoot Pris, I have been in the car when he's ben harassed for no reason





if you think everyone in texas isnt a racist then you're a hoot. I've been
stopped for shit I never did such as armed robbery when the cops claimed my car
fit the description of the one leaving the scene and there was literally no
fucking way any other car on the road matched mine, I was stopped for car theft
when I was fucking walking so as I said, this isnt exclusive to blacks, it
happens to whites as well so dont make it into something it's not

now, once more, does any of that make him a criminal?




I think the problem is, the point of the video, is that you don't need to be a criminal to be assaulted by the police.

Which is a crime.


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Re: O_O [Re: Amanita86]
    #21713961 - 05/23/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Amanita86 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
You missed the point where I said "Cops see guilty until proven innocent" to sum up my post




does that make someone a criminal?




It can..





please, explain

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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713963 - 05/23/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

All the pro-pig conservative morons on this board piss me off "how could police be in the wrong? Theyre all so great i wanna suck their dicks'. That kid was asking for it! If you dont wanna get tazed dont have a stroke! Fuckin criminals!" Some people on this board really are pathetic :/

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713964 - 05/23/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I always back up my  idiotic statments with facts.


On my phone so I can't watch the video. But if a cop is stopping you and you decide to while the cop is on top of your car your gonna have a bad time.

Also in B4 da riots. Let's head to the pharmacy.


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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21713971 - 05/23/15 12:10 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

When on the ....raaaaaree....occasion someone gets arrested/convicted for a crime they didn't do.  In the eyes of the court, the police, potential employers etc.etc.etc... they are now, a criminal.


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Re: O_O [Re: Amanita86]
    #21714000 - 05/23/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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trekie said:
I always back up my  idiotic statments with facts.


On my phone so I can't watch the video. But if a cop is stopping you and you decide to while the cop is on top of your car your gonna have a bad time.






in this instance the guy was having a stroke, it probably started before he
started driving the wrong way down the street which caused him to become
disoriented resulting in this act and I'm just assuming that he stopped the car
in the intersection because he was clear enough to see he was a danger

the cops handled this very badly given that this guy probably couldnt hear or
even see them while all of this was taking place, every situation requires it
to be handled as the situation calls for, if someone is unresponsive to you
when you're screaming at them then maybe screaming and tasing arent the
appropriate steps to take when an opportunity presents it's self


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Also in B4 da riots. Let's head to the pharmacy.




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When on the ....raaaaaree....occasion someone gets arrested/convicted for a crime they didn't do.  In the eyes of the court, the police, potential employers etc.etc.etc... they are now, a criminal.





no, that just means they now have a criminal record and some will view thm as one

it be a criminal you have to make the decision to commit a criminal act

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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21714009 - 05/23/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: O_O [Re: TrueLies]
    #21714028 - 05/23/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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All the pro-pig conservative morons on this board piss me off "how could police be in the wrong? Theyre all so great i wanna suck their dicks'. That kid was asking for it! If you dont wanna get tazed dont have a stroke! Fuckin criminals!" Some people on this board really are pathetic :/



I said he was an asshole and pointed out that he is no longer a cop.  Some people on this board do not bother reading the posts before they tar people with some broad brush bigotry of their own.


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Re: O_O [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21714062 - 05/23/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

FUCK THE POLICE.

We need more heroes like this man to put more wings on more cocksucking pigs.


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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21714072 - 05/23/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Amanita86 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Uzziel said:
You missed the point where I said "Cops see guilty until proven innocent" to sum up my post




does that make someone a criminal?




It can..





please, explain




When you get charged for a crime you didn't commit because it's a cop words over yours.........go figure

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Re: O_O [Re: abltsandwich]
    #21714073 - 05/23/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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FUCK THE POLICE.

We need more heroes like this man to put more wings on more cocksucking pigs.





Why don't you then . We would no longer have to listen to your ramblings.

We don't know. If you will harm any officers statistical you won't but you will end up shot. If memebers of Isis with body armor couldn't take on a security what makes you think you can take on the state.

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Re: O_O [Re: trekie] * 1
    #21714086 - 05/23/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

If you don't like my ramblings, why not fuck off and put me on ignore?  I don't care about your responses to my posts either and I sure as fuck don't care if you read them.  Actually it would be great to know that you, specifically, are unable to read my posts, so can you please ignore me?  Thanks.

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Re: O_O [Re: Uzziel]
    #21714089 - 05/23/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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When you get charged for a crime you didn't commit because it's a cop words over yours.........go figure

:shrug:




being charged with a crime doesnt make you a criminal, committing a crime does

by your logic, unless someone is charged they arent criminals, like that 19kids
guy, is he a criminal? D.B. Cooper was never actually charged for a crime, only
accused so clearly he's not a criminal and all those people that were exonerated
of criminal acts due to false allegations, they were clearly criminals even
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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21714099 - 05/23/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

In whose eyes again, Pris? If the state convincts you of a crime, you are a criminal in the state's eyes.

Does it make you personally a criminal? No. But that sure doesn't get you off the police scanner.

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Re: O_O [Re: Uzziel]
    #21714265 - 05/23/15 01:43 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Did you know there is a difference being being charged and being convicted?


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21714319 - 05/23/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

zZZz said:
depends on what ur definition of a criminal is





no need to dance around this one, you made a stupid statement so now is time to back it up




what's the point of explaining it to u if u know everything already

ur set in ur ways and i cant help u until u stop that nonsense





so you once again made a dumb statement you cant back up, congrats on the consistency




like i said, ur not here to listen to people's opinions, u're just here to shove ur opinions down other peoples throats. there's really no point in anyone explaining anything to u. ur post reek of arrogance, and mine of ignorance.


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21715045 - 05/23/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






there's something fundamentally wrong with the criminal element in this country
and the police have escalated their responses to match and there's something
fundamentally wrong with foreigners that like to believe they know what's
actually happening in the US



and we all laugh again at your spin.

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One of my good buddies is constantly harassed by the police because he is black, he's never been charged except for a speeding ticket once




it happens to white people too so stop making this about race






have you ever seen Uzziel make this about race, EVER?

Pris. you're a robot. just face it. you see a hot button issue that has nothing to do with your spin, but you make it about your spin.

and the thing is, everyone already sees this for waht it is... robotics.

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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21715052 - 05/23/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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and does that actually make you a criminal?





no, but it does stop you (or doesn't it? oh why bother?) from being able to defend yourself in court by being dead and or severely injured and in hospital.

look. you lose. already.

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if you think everyone in texas isnt a racist then you're a hoot. I've been
stopped for shit I never did such as armed robbery when the cops claimed my car
fit the description of the one leaving the scene and there was literally no
fucking way any other car on the road matched mine, I was stopped for car theft
when I was fucking walking so as I said, this isnt exclusive to blacks, it
happens to whites as well so dont make it into something it's not

now, once more, does any of that make him a criminal?




no, hence, if you're pronounced dead, kinda hard to make your case that you were mistaken for a criminal.

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: trekie]
    #21715063 - 05/23/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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I always back up my  idiotic statments with facts.


On my phone so I can't watch the video. But if a cop is stopping you and you decide to while the cop is on top of your car your gonna have a bad time.

Also in B4 da riots. Let's head to the pharmacy.



lets say absolutely nothing and act like i know what you're talking about, even though it's just idiotic statements with no facts.

if a cop is stopping you bla blag blah just cooperate.

shut up now.

he was seizing. he couldn't do anything but seize. you lose. go hang your head in shame for being such a default.

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the cops handled this very badly




^here lets ruminate on this instead of Pris's usual instant chicken soup bullshit. look he even admits it. the cops fucked up.

there that's the thread, the cops fucked up. not "lets defend all cops because the job is just so gloriously underminded by hippies whom i'm against so lets ignore the story in the OP and just spread my inane spin on the story so i can acknowledge that police are an integral part of society, and not address anything else."

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Re: O_O [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21715087 - 05/23/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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is it criminal to be pissed off or to have contempt for the cops? did your
friend go on a rape/robbery/murder spree because the cops bothered him?





I think the point he's making is many cops attitudes causes resentment towards them which leads to escelation that could've been avoided. Think Liko Kenney.

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21715313 - 05/23/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






there's something fundamentally wrong with the criminal element in this country
and the police have escalated their responses to match and there's something
fundamentally wrong with foreigners that like to believe they know what's
actually happening in the US




The criminal element in this case, and so many others are the police. Their culture is corrupt to the core.


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: koods]
    #21715328 - 05/23/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

More petty nonsense for people to get all worked up over.

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    #21715341 - 05/23/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

that video is fucking disturbing and disgusting.

i have the sudden urge to molotov whatever police station those people belonged to.

good thing i'm too fucking lazy and its easier to bitch on the internet

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21715371 - 05/23/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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More petty nonsense for people to get all worked up over.



petty?

oh then you don't mind if i pepperspray your ass for no reason?

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1] * 3
    #21715407 - 05/23/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.




there's something fundamentally wrong with the criminal element in this country
and the police have escalated their responses to match and there's something
fundamentally wrong with foreigners that like to believe they know what's
actually happening in the US




Car to quantify that with some facts?

Violence crime in the US is at an all time low in over 40 years, and has declined every year since 1994
Police violence against citizens it at an all time high
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/10/us-usa-crime-fbi-idUSKCN0IU1UM20141110
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/prison-statistics/

Seems your statement of there's something fundamentally wrong with the criminal element in this country is just a blanket statement that doesn't really say anything at all. Criminals are roughly the same as they have ever been... it was even worse 40 years ago. The only thing that has changed is the police have been militarized and kill with impunity now. The criminal element you refer to, is the police.


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #21715413 - 05/23/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

oh and cigarette hustlers.




just getting this non-point outta the way already. pre-emptive strike.

PS: and runners too. can't run, that's illegal! hunt him down!

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21715515 - 05/23/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.





The cops are undereducated, and overprotected for the uneducated decisions. It should be mandatory that to become an officer you need at bare minimum a Bachelors degree. It needs to be shown that you can use critical thinking skills during times of crisis, and you just cant test that through bullshit police academy training, let alone a high school diploma.

I wish someone would make it mandatory to have a college degree, and you would see a whole lot less of these types of abusive police behaviors in the US.


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21715617 - 05/23/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






there's something fundamentally wrong with the criminal element in this country
and the police have escalated their responses to match and there's something
fundamentally wrong with foreigners that like to believe they know what's
actually happening in the US





Yeah it's so hard to turn on a tv or read the internet. You are ignorant as fuck about the rest of the world, doesnt mean the rest of the world is ignorant about the USA.

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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: ManianFH]
    #21715634 - 05/23/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.





The cops are undereducated, and overprotected for the uneducated decisions. It should be mandatory that to become an officer you need at bare minimum a Bachelors degree. It needs to be shown that you can use critical thinking skills during times of crisis, and you just cant test that through bullshit police academy training, let alone a high school diploma.

I wish someone would make it mandatory to have a college degree, and you would see a whole lot less of these types of abusive police behaviors in the US.




That would substantially inrease their wages, millions of cops, millions and millions more in pay outs.

Maybe start in a city and see what happens.
Some people are fine with their police force.

Usually people who dont run at the first sight of a cop, or act a fool and resist arrest.

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    #21715657 - 05/23/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.





The cops are undereducated, and overprotected for the uneducated decisions. It should be mandatory that to become an officer you need at bare minimum a Bachelors degree. It needs to be shown that you can use critical thinking skills during times of crisis, and you just cant test that through bullshit police academy training, let alone a high school diploma.

I wish someone would make it mandatory to have a college degree, and you would see a whole lot less of these types of abusive police behaviors in the US.



Yeah there's no dickheads allowed in college. :uhno:


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante]
    #21715678 - 05/23/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.




Oh also just in.. The cop who jumped on the hood of a car with 2 unarmed occupants and from that position fired 49 shots into them, got a Not Guilty on all counts.

But lets focus on tazering and pepperspraying a guy in a car who's having a friggin stroke.[/quote.  That is insane so did the cop actually reload and kept shooting???:dudewtf:

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    #21715687 - 05/23/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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In whose eyes again, Pris? If the state convincts you of a crime, you are a criminal in the state's eyes.

Does it make you personally a criminal? No. But that sure doesn't get you off the police scanner.




being a criminal is a personal choice, being labeled a criminal can come a number
of ways other than actually being a criminal. hanging out with the wrong element
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    #21715791 - 05/23/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

sorta like cops.

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    #21715793 - 05/23/15 09:47 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

:thatsinteresting:


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    #21715961 - 05/23/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Lol at pris telling asante he doesn't know how cops should behave.

I hate this topic, and my only contribution is re-iterate other first world countries don't have this problem with police violence against citizens, and there is no correlation between violent police and less crime.



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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21715982 - 05/23/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.




He resigned. It's not like he was fired or something.

And they fire the assholes? Uhhh....I think not. Not usually.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vicious-cop-charged-caught-hurting-young-girls-shooting-bb-gun/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-kill-woman-day-care-breaks-leg-front-infant-jail-time/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-killed-3-people-shot-innocent-man-re-instated-fired/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-killed-unarmed-man-information-police-released-is-he-record/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-shot-innocent-women-dorner-manhunt-job/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/courtroom-erupts-off-duty-cop-killed-unarmed-woman-acquitted/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-paid-vacation-caught-multiple-times-stealing-uniform-armed/
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/05/texas-cop-who-killed-unarmed-man-with-hands-raised-wont-face-charges/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/23/3662433/cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-dea
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/violent-unstable-cop-reinstated-department/ths-2-unarmed-victims-59-car-police-chase/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/drunken-cop-caught-camera-pulling-gun-gas-station-clerk/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/albuquerque-police-chief-dept-stuck-officers-shouldnt-force/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fight-police-brutality-albuquerque-police-promote-cop-burned-mans-ear/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/good-cop-lead-detective-murder-james-boyd-blows-whistle-department/


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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #21716004 - 05/23/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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mick said:
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Asante said:
There is something fundamentally wrong with police culture in your country. Ultraviolence is their default response it seems.






We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.





The cops are undereducated, and overprotected for the uneducated decisions. It should be mandatory that to become an officer you need at bare minimum a Bachelors degree. It needs to be shown that you can use critical thinking skills during times of crisis, and you just cant test that through bullshit police academy training, let alone a high school diploma.

I wish someone would make it mandatory to have a college degree, and you would see a whole lot less of these types of abusive police behaviors in the US.



Yeah there's no dickheads allowed in college. :uhno:





Its not that there arent assholes, theres assholes everywhere. But I surmise that even the college grad assholes can think faster than their trigger finger.

Seriously ill bet anyone who surveys any reasonable population, gathering questionable police violence reports would find that a statistically significant amount of the officers involved in the incidents had a highschool diploma and no higher education. I would BET it


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    #21716262 - 05/24/15 01:29 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.




He resigned. It's not like he was fired or something.

And they fire the assholes? Uhhh....I think not. Not usually.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vicious-cop-charged-caught-hurting-young-girls-shooting-bb-gun/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-kill-woman-day-care-breaks-leg-front-infant-jail-time/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-killed-3-people-shot-innocent-man-re-instated-fired/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-killed-unarmed-man-information-police-released-is-he-record/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-shot-innocent-women-dorner-manhunt-job/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/courtroom-erupts-off-duty-cop-killed-unarmed-woman-acquitted/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-paid-vacation-caught-multiple-times-stealing-uniform-armed/
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/05/texas-cop-who-killed-unarmed-man-with-hands-raised-wont-face-charges/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/23/3662433/cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-dea
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/violent-unstable-cop-reinstated-department/ths-2-unarmed-victims-59-car-police-chase/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/drunken-cop-caught-camera-pulling-gun-gas-station-clerk/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/albuquerque-police-chief-dept-stuck-officers-shouldnt-force/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fight-police-brutality-albuquerque-police-promote-cop-burned-mans-ear/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/good-cop-lead-detective-murder-james-boyd-blows-whistle-department/




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Re: Virginia cop caught using pepperspray and a taser on an unresisting black man whowas having a stroke [Re: Asante]
    #21716356 - 05/24/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Why is this shit still happening so damn much?  you would think with ALLLLLL of the media coverage and big stories that have been circulating the last few years that evey damn police department in the coutnry would be so worried about even having a news story sniff around them MAYBE doing something wrong, that they would have everyone on best behavior possible, at all times.  Thats what I don't get.

I mean, the way a story can be spun to sound one way or another even with little actual facts being available, can really damage the local police force and governments credibility.  So yeah, officers around the country, wtf.  At this point with this much coverage and citizens so up in arms already, why are you being so EXTRA DUMB and pulling this shit, still?!!?!?!


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    #21716366 - 05/24/15 02:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

this thread sux....should we start posting every time a white man it fucked with by the police?....sick of hearing this shit.....:facepalm3:


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HELLS YEA

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I'm against police brutality and fuck the poliec and all, but it's not exactly like Black people should be given the benefit of the doubt[ (keep in mind the population disparity between Whites and Blacks)

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this thread sux....should we start posting every time a white man it fucked with by the police?....sick of hearing this shit.....:facepalm3:




Of course not, because that would be racist against Black People.


















Yeah, I don't really get it either.

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    #21716446 - 05/24/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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this thread sux....should we start posting every time a white man it fucked with by the police?....sick of hearing this shit.....:facepalm3:




You are completely free to not click on the thread or GTFO if you don't like it.


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    #21716453 - 05/24/15 03:37 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i'm also free to say this topic sux.....:bigyesnod:


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Re: O_O [Re: jboredone]
    #21716459 - 05/24/15 03:39 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'm also free to tell you your opinion sucks :yesnod:

These are real events happening in real life. Many people care. If you don't like it, don't click or post in the thread.

I don't like a lot of the dumb threads posted in the Pub.. you know what I do.. I don't waste my time with them.


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Re: O_O [Re: Shroomism]
    #21716466 - 05/24/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

as many of these threads that have popped up in the pub the past year there should be a sub-forum of "black people fucked with by the police".... :blackface:


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Re: O_O [Re: jboredone]
    #21716468 - 05/24/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Not all of them are black, if you had been paying attention. What are you some kind of racist?

Should we also have a subforum for Name your last poop with a movie title type threads?


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Re: O_O [Re: Shroomism]
    #21716486 - 05/24/15 04:03 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

i'm not racist....what is the point of mentioning the race in a thread title?....:shrug:


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Re: O_O [Re: jboredone]
    #21716561 - 05/24/15 05:12 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah that shit is fucked up. If that where happening here, it would have been a pollitical shitstorm like few others. But in the US it is... business as usual.
Don't tell me that that is not fucked up.


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    #21716783 - 05/24/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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We have over a million cops in this country.  Some of them are assholes.  It has nothing to do with police culture.  The guy is gone.  That is what police culture in this country is.  They fire the assholes.




He resigned. It's not like he was fired or something.

And they fire the assholes? Uhhh....I think not. Not usually.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vicious-cop-charged-caught-hurting-young-girls-shooting-bb-gun/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-kill-woman-day-care-breaks-leg-front-infant-jail-time/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-killed-3-people-shot-innocent-man-re-instated-fired/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-killed-unarmed-man-information-police-released-is-he-record/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-shot-innocent-women-dorner-manhunt-job/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/courtroom-erupts-off-duty-cop-killed-unarmed-woman-acquitted/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-paid-vacation-caught-multiple-times-stealing-uniform-armed/
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/05/texas-cop-who-killed-unarmed-man-with-hands-raised-wont-face-charges/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/05/23/3662433/cleveland-police-officer-acquitted-dea
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/violent-unstable-cop-reinstated-department/ths-2-unarmed-victims-59-car-police-chase/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/drunken-cop-caught-camera-pulling-gun-gas-station-clerk/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/albuquerque-police-chief-dept-stuck-officers-shouldnt-force/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fight-police-brutality-albuquerque-police-promote-cop-burned-mans-ear/
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/good-cop-lead-detective-murder-james-boyd-blows-whistle-department/




Zappa, you know how hard it is to fire someone when a union is involved.




Yes I do.  I suspect that he was told to quit or he would be fired.  Do you know who else quit even though he did nothing wrong?  The cop in Ferguson.

I don't know how much training the cops elsewhere get but NYC cops are highly trained.  I would further point out that given how many cops there are they are pretty clean.  Certainly compared to the general population.  Are there some assholes?  Of course.  What is driving this narrative is a sensationallist press and professional race baiters, both of whom make a living by exaggerating police misbehavior.  There is no culture of corruption in the vast majority of American police departments.  For that you have to go to Mexico

Here's Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Canada#cite_note-36
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/jordan-macwilliams-delta-police-officer-charged-with-murder-for-2012-starlight-casino-shooting-1.2806252
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/jordan-macwilliams-delta-police-officer-charged-with-murder-for-2012-starlight-casino-shooting-1.2806252


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Re: O_O [Re: jboredone]
    #21717625 - 05/24/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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i'm not racist....what is the point of mentioning the race in a thread title?....:shrug:




Who cares if you are? There are far worse things to be than a Race-ist, such as a 'Leftist'

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    #21717661 - 05/24/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

lol, i'd rather be a racist than a bleeding heart liberal scumbag. Look at how bad all those leftist countries are destroying the world with their close to zero pollution and record breaking levels of literacy.

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    #21717806 - 05/24/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Their literacy does not extend to finances


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Re: O_O [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21718455 - 05/24/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

eh, in the top 25 is still good enough, especially when you consider they spend their money on healthcare and education instead of like, prisons and bombs or whatever so they actually get some value for their dollars.


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Re: O_O [Re: teamkiller]
    #21718529 - 05/24/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

They spent decades being defended by our bombs and maybe if they put more tax cheats in jail they wouldn't be where they are today.


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    #21718840 - 05/24/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Can yall provide me with more links to cops getting caught lying and murdering people?


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    #21719101 - 05/24/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Shitty cops exist, hopefully the bad ones get ousted, what's the alternative.

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Re: O_O [Re: qman]
    #21719262 - 05/24/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Another cop shoots unarmed man, video starts at 1:50, granted this video is kind of old


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Re: O_O [Re: Crystal G]
    #21720598 - 05/25/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

you really love to push this shit as always racist

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