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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21940067 - 07/13/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1. Poop on a conveyor 2. covey said poop into a packing centre. 3. make bricks of poop 4. innoc poop bricks 5. ?????? 6. Profit. That's what he said pretty much.
I think this idea could work. The only problem I see coming into this is either keeping the oyster spawn alive while digesting the poop. Or getting large amounts of oyster spawn to keep it going. I think it'd be cheaper to move the waste to a facility and use the oysters there, instead of seperately in each porta potty.
Although, the idea would work if we had a fungus that can continually survive shit water. Maybe a type of mold instead? It'd have to be fast and able to grow effectively in liquid.
I think the reason why compost porta potties don't work well is because bacteria make a very terrible smell. I couldn't imagine having to use that...
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Achillita]
#21940127 - 07/14/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Achillita said: 1. Poop on a conveyor 2. covey said poop into a packing centre. 3. make bricks of poop 4. innoc poop bricks 5. ?????? 6. Profit. That's what he said pretty much.
I think this idea could work. The only problem I see coming into this is either keeping the oyster spawn alive while digesting the poop. Or getting large amounts of oyster spawn to keep it going. I think it'd be cheaper to move the waste to a facility and use the oysters there, instead of seperately in each porta potty.
Although, the idea would work if we had a fungus that can continually survive shit water. Maybe a type of mold instead? It'd have to be fast and able to grow effectively in liquid.
I think the reason why compost porta potties don't work well is because bacteria make a very terrible smell. I couldn't imagine having to use that...
the ads I saw for composting toilets claimed they had no smell. But they're evaporating piss and fermenting feces so I don't see how that works 
I'm starting to see the problems with my plan too. I'm thinking oysters might not be ideal. I'm wondering if the contents of a porta potty would would contain too much water for myc to do well. Composting toilet website claimed that human waste is typically 90% water.
Longevity could be another issue like you said. I'm hoping that you could just throw some spawn in there one time to seed a colony and then it would just continue to grow. I mean that's how outdoor mushroom beds work..right? Just keep pouring on more material year after year and it'll keep growing. The main maintenance would be occasionally removing some of the colonized mass..probably 
I like the idea of trucking all the waste to a facility and doing the oyster mushroom treatment there, but one of the main selling points of these fungal outhouses would be the lack of smell. (seems to me like it should reduce smell quite a bit)
Getting to the point where I'm just going to have to test it to find out. I need a way to do my experimenting without disturbing my housemates though...
And I need to trade for or purchase an oyster culture...oh yeah.
(I'm also starting to think that shitting in the woods and isolating any fungi that grow on it might be a good method of obtaining candidates for replacing the oyster. So somebody should probably talk me out of that)
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21940160 - 07/14/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honestly, if you shit in the woods you're most likely gonna get some sort of mold to grow on it. Or nothing because of the amount of bacteria.
I think oysters might work for it, but I think you'd need something that is more aggressive and much quicker. Oysters are already hella fast, but I don't know how long they'll last in the bacteria contaminated water...
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Achillita]
#21948126 - 07/15/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'mma let you finish but let me just say beyonce had the better...
I am really into this because four years litterally I've had a visual image of how to compact and prep for mycelium.
You dont need water in a tank and it doesnt need to be a tank, I'm saying look to the chemistry of mushrooms to decompoos, you would need mushroms simply growing near the shit so that they would be sporulating the shit, problem is that its digested and the smell in the heat. I know sporeulate and transport, really who wants to do this with shit shacks first its not ideal but if we could look at garbage or recycle first you could maybe lead into this fecal matter, I would assume its alot like the mushroom to use the ecosystem aswell, so maybe there are plants that could ahve roots into the shithouse, and bugs aswell..
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
#21948431 - 07/15/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TravelerOfSorts said: I'mma let you finish but let me just say beyonce had the better...
I am really into this because four years litterally I've had a visual image of how to compact and prep for mycelium.
You dont need water in a tank and it doesnt need to be a tank, I'm saying look to the chemistry of mushrooms to decompoos, you would need mushroms simply growing near the shit so that they would be sporulating the shit, problem is that its digested and the smell in the heat. I know sporeulate and transport, really who wants to do this with shit shacks first its not ideal but if we could look at garbage or recycle first you could maybe lead into this fecal matter, I would assume its alot like the mushroom to use the ecosystem aswell, so maybe there are plants that could ahve roots into the shithouse, and bugs aswell..
that was a tad hard to follow. Is english your first language?
Having oysters eat garbage was another potential project of mine. Was gonna train them to eat plastic based cigarette filters and isolate the ones that could consume plastic the fastest and go from there. Maybe I could make one of those little garbage cans specifically for cigarette butts, except there's some oysters living/loving at the bottom.
The fungal cigarette can seems a little more far fetched though.
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21948511 - 07/15/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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not to swing this to far but, about 3d printers is there one that works with autoCAD?
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
#21948527 - 07/15/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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TravelerOfSorts said: not to swing this to far but, about 3d printers is there one that works with autoCAD?
there must be. either that or a conversion.
not that I know much about 3d printers, i just highly doubt they're not compatible with autocad
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
#21948623 - 07/15/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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what degrees in university/college work in the areas we are discussing?
Co-worker said environmental science.
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
#21949267 - 07/15/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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can't work because of the nature of porta-johns. They are used for single events (1 - 3 days) or pumped out weekly for remote locations.
You can't have a mushroom farm growing for 6 or 8 weeks in a shit storage tank without replacing the shit storage so the john can be continued to be used. So there is no economic advantage of using mushrooms rather than traditional methods, and mushrooms would require that you have 6 to 8 times more duplication of shitters.
Much more interesting is the Vice Presents: You Don't Know Shit
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/video/you-dont-know-shit-part-1-811
Shit is already being used to grow tomatoes, mushrooms and other food.
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