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Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals
    #21713666 - 05/23/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm sure we've all read that story about paul stamet's septic issues. He owned land with old septic waste, and was going to be legally forced to buy an expensive system to clean it up.

So instead of buying said septic system, he starts chucking his spent oyster logs into the septic waste. And as we probably all know, it cleans it right up.


So now I'm thinking, would it be possible to just have a tank filled with shit and piss that you get some oysters started in? Would this actually be efficient? Could the mushrooms grow well enough with very little light down there in the tank of a porta potty?

Who knows, maybe it would destroy smell better than that blue chemical stuff does. And it might be cheaper for the porta potty companies to maintenance the things, who knows.

Is this a good enough idea to build a test model? :lol:

only problem is everytime I try to clone wild oysters they contam badly.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21713673 - 05/23/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

In before Moonshoe shares his vast knowledge of toilets and chemicals.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #21713706 - 05/23/15 10:28 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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In before Moonshoe shares his vast knowledge of toilets and chemicals.



yay :congrats:

I was hoping somebody would have such knowledge.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TheGreenArrow] * 3
    #21713801 - 05/23/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

In before Pris comes in here with his vast knowledge of Wikipedia

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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21713806 - 05/23/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You figure this out, you could wind up with a real profitable patent on your hands.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Dark_Star]
    #21713813 - 05/23/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Seeing how the mushroom death suit is a thing, this would be awesome.

I think we'll have to genetically engineer a strain to make the conversion pathway faster though.

&People would cry GMO & You can't just throw this into nature!

i'd be afraid it'd become the dominant species :lol:


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Beanhead]
    #21714038 - 05/23/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

personally Mechanicalconveyors might be useful for moving shit.
i wish tehre was a myco chemical facility because theres probably so many chems that can be derived outa the mushroom that can maybe be used in the waste before being introduced to the mushrooms directly. hence the mechanical conveyors. like a chem that works away at the shit then gets in with the mycellium, making it metabolize faster or something. My job involves me sitting waiting and directly across from my seat is a shit house behind me is a mushroom dense strip of land.  Used time to think on the subject. My thinking towards a recycle bin instead of shit house was extrapolated.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
    #21717317 - 05/24/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Bump?


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21766942 - 06/05/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21924575 - 07/10/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.letsgogreen.com/how-composting-toilets-work.html

Been thinking more about this idea, finally did some reading on how typical porta potties work when I came across composting toilets.

They are pretty similar to my idea, only they use bacteria instead of fungi. I'm wondering why porta potty companies still use chemical mixes when this is available? (Maybe composting takes too long for commercial use, or maybe it costs more.)

Maybe fungi can do it faster/simpler than bacteria. I want to start experimenting with this idea but my housemates would probably not appreciate it :lol:


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21924595 - 07/10/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

isnt the blue chemical in porta-john water just a deoderizer?

i dont think it breaks down poo or anything like that


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Adolin]
    #21924622 - 07/10/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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isnt the blue chemical in porta-john water just a deoderizer?

i dont think it breaks down poo or anything like that



http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4925069_porta-potty-work.html

This doesn't explain very clearly, but it has the phrase "breaks down" in it.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21924666 - 07/10/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

found this, its a MSDS sheet for a popular brand of that blue stuff(Exodor):

http://findersfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/porta_potty_liquid_msds.pdf


this is the composition


    75-85% Water
    5-10% Surfactant mixture
    1-5% Fragrance mixture
    1-5% Colorant mixture
    0-1% Ethyl alcohol
    0-1% Surfactant


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Adolin]
    #21924764 - 07/10/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Gresh said:
found this, its a MSDS sheet for a popular brand of that blue stuff(Exodor):

http://findersfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/porta_potty_liquid_msds.pdf


this is the composition


    75-85% Water
    5-10% Surfactant mixture
    1-5% Fragrance mixture
    1-5% Colorant mixture
    0-1% Ethyl alcohol
    0-1% Surfactant



so lets see, ethyl alcohol is probably to prevent certain bacteria/germs from growing in there?

Surfactant: reduces surface tension?

"Surfactants may act as detergents, wetting agents, emulsifiers, foaming agents, and dispersants." which is it i wonder.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21924780 - 07/10/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i'm guessing your right about it breaking the poo down some, and the surfactant is to help break down the hard turds and dissolve them in the water and make it easier to pump out

i know they work that way with oil. you can basically dissolve oil in water with a surfactant


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Adolin]
    #21925730 - 07/10/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

problem is the heat a porta potty gets volcanic blazing


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
    #21927087 - 07/11/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeahh, maybe there's a fungus that would work better than oysters.

Maybe I should just shit in the woods and clone what grows on it :lol:


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21927727 - 07/11/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the detergent is probably better at killing the bacteria than the ethyl alcohol.  It destroys the membrane of cells so nothing can survive in it.  Its why soap kills bacteria.


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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: fapjack]
    #21938774 - 07/13/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think machine like when you poop on the conveyor it conveys your shit into a packing centre and then makes bricks of shit then innocs them


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in waiting for my rebirth cycle i have hopes that when mushrooms find me it will occur then and i can go about the world as a medicine man
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Re: Design a porta potty that uses mycelium instead of chemicals [Re: TravelerOfSorts]
    #21939991 - 07/13/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think machine like when you poop on the conveyor it conveys your shit into a packing centre and then makes bricks of shit then innocs them



:lol: wanna give that sentence another try? I'm not sure I know quite what you mean


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