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ID Request - Vic, Aus
    #21712421 - 05/22/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Habitat: Leafy grassy area near river in the Vic High Country, growing from the grass and under leaves etc.

Gills: Creamy white

Stem: Whitish, strong, woody feeling, sometimes a big darker - a lot of the mushrooms were slightly waterlogged which may have caused increased darkness in the stem.

Cap: Caramel brown (see photo) between 1.5cm and 5cm, sometimes yellow - a lot of the samples were frosted over due to the cold

Spore print color: Purple black

Bruising: Some blue bruising, some stems bruised a darker grey colour (see photos)

Location: Grassy area near river in Vic High Country

Pretty confident about most of the batch but I'm concerned that I might make a mistake when I've picked so many (hence the spore prints). See the last image - the print is a slightly different colour so I'm going to toss it - what do you guys think?

Are there any poisonous look-a-likes that print the same/very similar colour to subs?

Thanks!







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Re: ID Request - Vic, Aus [Re: memeyou]
    #21712457 - 05/22/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nice ID request. Psilocybe subaeruginosa

Were they found directly in grass? Would be pretty odd to find a harvest like this in grass.

Check every specimen for blue bruising and identical smell and identical spore print, which you seem to be doing well!

There are no dangerous look alikes in Aus that look like subs, bruise blue and have a purple spore print.


The last pic should be good, the spore print can just be dark when the caps are dry like that. I took a spore print the other night and they were dark like that when the caps were dry like yours. As long as they bruise blue and smell the same as the others then they're good IMO.


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Re: ID Request - Vic, Aus [Re: HamiltonJoe]
    #21712486 - 05/22/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the quick reply - I forgot I had habitat shots. It was lightly forested with leaves and other green debris.

Got a blocked nose at the moment so smell is no good for now haha...

Some did not have obvious blue bruising but did have the right spore print colour and vice versa.

I was actually concerned about the one on the right in my previous post's last photo - it had an almost yellowy brown tone instead of purple which raised alarm bells. When I get really dark, full i.e. not patchy prints I have assumed it's because that specimen had heaps of spores left for the print.



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Re: ID Request - Vic, Aus [Re: memeyou]
    #21712685 - 05/23/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

ah ha .....

got a little impatient did we.

please dont double post.


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Re: ID Request - Vic, Aus [Re: obtuse]
    #21712718 - 05/23/15 12:44 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

My apologies - they were different picks but from the same location so I separated them into two posts. Will keep them together in future.

With that in mind, as a TI do you agree that the samples in the photos for this post are subs?


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Re: ID Request - Vic, Aus [Re: memeyou]
    #21712733 - 05/23/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

they are all Psilocybe subaeruginosa.

A lot hsows signes of being saturated with water, and have browning on the stems.  so you do need to be careful of Galerina sp., so double check for blue bruising, although you have dried them already, yes?

from the prints i can see they are ok.  Galerina sp. have orange-brown prints.


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Re: ID Request - Vic, Aus [Re: obtuse]
    #21712764 - 05/23/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the response.

Yep - Galerina is my main concern, especially when I find this many on the same hunt. Spore printing takes time but is 100% worth it for peace of mind. On the flip side when you're that far out in the glorious Victorian high country camping and the night sky is cloudless there is a mighty temptation to get straight down to business :smile:

Btw I mentioned before that some did not have obvious blue bruising but did have the right spore print colour and vice versa, again any questionable looking samples will get tossed and thanks for the response.


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