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MycoAlchemist
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Making tea with colonized spawn
#21711486 - 05/22/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Has anyone done this before, making tea or lemon teking a fully colonized jar of grain, how effective would this be at giving a good trip?
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Definitely very possible and very strong.
Havent done it myself but i recall this being enough for 2-3 trips iirc
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Not effective. Mycelium doesn't contain any actives, and will not provide a trip.
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sirdabz710
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i can only see this working with an old used brf cake that has put out several flushes mycelium doesnt start making actives until mushrooms grow
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MycoAlchemist
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: sirdabz710]
#21711602 - 05/22/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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These jars would be fully colonized ATL sclerotia jars, was thinking after harvest that since the sclerotia would be the active it might produce it within the mycelia of the grains..
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: MycoAlchemist] 1
#21711938 - 05/22/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i used to make tea with spent cakes. or spent flatcakes. it will take you to the moon. i would make a gallon per flatcake sub i used to use. which was about 4 1/2 pint jars of colonized brf cake. split between 5 people we couldn't even drink the 2nd half of the gallon we were tripping so hard. back in the cake days everyone used to make spent cake tea.
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: eatyualive] 1
#21712077 - 05/22/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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spent cake tea... nice same trip as muhroom itself i presume..
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: cArcace-x] 1
#21712154 - 05/22/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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same as making tea!
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: eatyualive]
#21712601 - 05/22/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's a big difference between sclerotia and vegetative mycelium. Sclerotia is a special structure like a fruit body. There's also a big difference between a spent substrate and jar of spawn. Under normal circumstances fresh spawn will contain no actives whatsoever.
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: Kizzle]
#21713093 - 05/23/15 05:43 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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sirdabz710 said: i can only see this working with an old used brf cake that has put out several flushes mycelium doesnt start making actives until mushrooms grow
As sirdabs mentioned before that mycelium does not have any actives till it starts producing mushrooms, in this case the fruit would be the sclerotia, and the spawn likely considered the substrate,( which is coffee soaked grains). Since the sclerotia is producing actives, it should apply that the rest of the myc is turning active as well possibly, aslo especially being that its been sitting growing sclerotia for over two months.. If anything like buds to shake, you can still use that shake for some quality brownies lmao
Edited by MycoAlchemist (05/23/15 05:46 AM)
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: eatyualive]
#21713140 - 05/23/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: i used to make tea with spent cakes. or spent flatcakes. it will take you to the moon. i would make a gallon per flatcake sub i used to use. which was about 4 1/2 pint jars of colonized brf cake. split between 5 people we couldn't even drink the 2nd half of the gallon we were tripping so hard. back in the cake days everyone used to make spent cake tea.
Just seems like it would be horrible even if you added something to try and mask the flavor. I could only see doing it if the potency was much higher than just enjoying the mushies.
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: Apps]
#21713361 - 05/23/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes it is nasty with vermiculite and its a little chunky. And yes you use spent flushed out cakes or subs. Also you would not want to use any dung substrates. Id only use flushed out pf cakes not fresh spawn. Its nasty but will work.
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: eatyualive]
#21713646 - 05/23/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Stupid question Spent cake as it doesnt fruit anymore? Or contaminated?
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eatyualive
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: oontribe]
#21713663 - 05/23/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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As the cake flushed out a few flushes. But did not contaminate.
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: eatyualive]
#21713702 - 05/23/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So you crumble them and boil em for like 15 mins or something! Right?
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eatyualive
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: oontribe]
#21713714 - 05/23/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes. you will see that the cakes will be bruised blue. once the blue is gone. take it off the heat and strain it out with a strainer and coffee filter. mix it with your favorite tea or orange juice concentrate. you will likely need to add a good amount of sugar or sweetener to makeup for the ass taste. also google substrate tea. you may find a recipe. i was looking for one for you on this site but the archives aren't that good here. although i don't know if vermiculite is good for your health so you may want to research that on your own. i believe it comes from schale rock. you would want to use a coffee filter and strainer to filter out all the gunk.
ive used this method a few hundred times in the past and its just as potent as making tea with fruits. there is enough actives in the mycelia that it works well. the downside is the nasty taste and its very thick and gunky. a gallon of tea is enough for a good time for a group of friends. there is a limit to how many cakes you can put per volume of water before it gets too thick. id say use about 4 pf cakes per gallon and a half of water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiculite
Edited by eatyualive (05/23/15 10:39 AM)
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: eatyualive]
#21713907 - 05/23/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: As the cake flushed out a few flushes. But did not contaminate.
What if the BRF cakes were used as spawn and mixed with coir? I assume it would still work, but do you think the coir would make it nastier or less so?
Any idea why the tea gets thick? I'd be willing to try this but that sounds kinda gross.
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LocN9ne
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21713959 - 05/23/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mmmm mmmm...nothing like some tea that you have to chew lol...I am also curious about this...
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: LocN9ne]
#21714109 - 05/23/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Locn9ne...are those pictures of half pints cakes?
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LocN9ne
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: oontribe]
#21714128 - 05/23/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol no... I dropped a tray and put some of the broken sub in a beer pitcher then put it in my SGFC when it pinned (salvage tek lol)
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Re: Making tea with colonized spawn [Re: oontribe]
#21714135 - 05/23/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yum! Manure tea!
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