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Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS)
#21710278 - 05/22/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive been reading this forum for a couple of years now, and everything and anything Ive learned about this hobby is thanks to you guys, I appreciate it a bunch.
Ive done PFTEK, some time ago and fruited in hydro chamber with decent success. Yields were what you would expect but potency was outstanding (Ban Hua Thanon). That was my only previous attempt at growing and I was happy with the results.
This time around I decided to go with Mycobags for increased yields, simplicity and so I could learn different techniques etc etc. I realize mycobag growing is frowned upon by some, but in my current situation this was the best choice for me. Some info on materials used: KIT from one of the sponsors.
1.Sterilized grain spawn (organic rye berries) separated in to 1 lb. mycobags with injection ports 2.Pre-pasteurized mushroom compost (dehydrated horse manure, exotic zoo manure, organic coconut coir, vermiculite, and gypsum.) 3.Brand new filter patch mycobags (large size; 5.0 micron filter) 4.Mushroom bag clamps (8" length) 5.Vinyl tubing for bag clamps 6.Sterile alcohol swabs 7.Powder-free vinyl exam gloves 8.Casing mixture (organic peat moss, coarse vermiculite, hydrated lime (for pH adjustment), and granular gypsum (supplementing the mix with calcium and sulfur—essential elements for fruit body formation).
3/14 - Knocked up 6 x 1 lb spawn bags with Ban Hua Thanon and B+, cubes. 4 x Bans and 2 x B+. Used basic sterile procedures, save glovebox or flowhood since I don't have either. flamed needle for 15 secs between inoculation and wiped the black sod off with alc wipe right before injecting. Also I angled the needle when entering injection port as to get the liquid closer to the bag walls, and not in the middle of spawn.

Set the inoculated bags on a shelf and left them alone.

Faced some real issues with keeping steady temperature in my room, as the local temps have been massively schizophrenic, changing by 15-20 degrees every other day. I believe this is what has caused slow colonization of the spawn bags. it took 6-7 weeks for all the bags to fully colonize which is a very long period of time.
After 3 weeks only 1 out of 6 bags showed any colonization at all, which had me all types of worried. But alas, patience paid off and by beginning of May all 6 were colonized. SIde note: I decided to pump a syringe of sterile water into each bag as they all got way dry. Judging their content humidity level by a noob was a bit challenging. Also, B+ colonization was faster and more lively.
5/1 - Mixed colonized spawn bags with mushroom compost. 1:2.5 ratio. The grow bags were provided in a kit and were a lot larger than I expected. The second photo is two grow bags set next to a 66 qrt tub. ALso in these photos, all of the spawn is on top of compost and has not been mixed yet

Here are the grow bags with spawn and compost thoroughly mixed

Here they are a few days later. THe bags on the right are B+, and I mixed them several days after mixing the Ban Hua Thanons, 4 bags on the left.
5/21 - Cased all six grow bags, as they were 90-100% colonized - 3 weeks after mixing (again longer than expected). Casing with: organic peat moss, coarse vermiculite, hydrated lime, granular gypsum. I used a clean glove and continued basic sterile precautions. The photos are crappy cause I didn't have my DSLR, will get those retaken.
The cake was very uneven and instead of messing with the mycelium and trying to flatten it I decided to try to case it with an even thickness layer, which proved a bit messy and challenging - working inside a plastic bag and all. Some of the casing fell to the sides of the cake and it makes it look like the layer is a lot thicker than it actually is. Im confident its close to .5 inch across the board which is exactly what I wanted.

Set these back on the shelves and expect to introduce em to fruiting conditions by sometime next week, if mycelium start breaking through the casing. I left a little casing to patch as needed too. Gout this bulb and lamp which should be great for fruiting
Woods 0169 18/2-Gauge SPT-2 Clamp Light with 8.5-Inch Reflector, 150-Watt, 6-Foot Cord
Feit Electric ESL40TN/D 42-Watt Compact Fluorescent High-Wattage Bulb, Daylight (150W equivalent)
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I attempted G2G while mixing spawn with compost, and pulled out two more spawn bags, added some sterile water and some colonized grains and resealed the bags.

At first they were colonizing fast but soon bacteria started turning this spawn into brown nasty slurge of sorts. I separated seemingly healthy mycelium and brought it into an outdoor drowbox (4' x 4') that's in the back of my apt building. I think someone grew something there at some point and now it just sits there unused. I have a good feeling ill see some outdoor grown Thai Tanics their shortly.
Ill keep updating with pics and info as the grow goes along. CHeers and Thank You!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21710321 - 05/22/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So I harvested about 6-7 mushrooms last night cause they opened up when I went to go get weed for the wife. Cracker dryer them overnight in a dehydrator.

Not bad for a little harvest. I already have two trays drying and some mushrooms that still need to mature on the sub. I'm just picking as I go!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21710388 - 05/22/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice. Those look like nice size mooshies. I think im a couple weeks behind ya, since I just cased em yesterday. Cheers
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21710408 - 05/22/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I say that you're about two weeks behind. Can't wait to see what the casing does!!!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21725849 - 05/26/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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5/26 - finally got my grow light from amazon today. I pulled out the bags and it looks like the casing got more colonized that id like.
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I still had casing left, so i patched the mycelium spots with a thin layer, the best i could.
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I sprayed the casing lightly in each bag,fanned the bag flaps for a bit of air exchange, dropped the temp in the room by few degrees and put the light on 12/12 cycle.
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Btw, this bulb is really bright, alot brighter than expected. One of the bags has medium size pins already, i left em alone and patched around. Anyone know if you can fruit mycobags with flaps open for fresh air?
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21726407 - 05/26/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I imagine that they would lose a lot of humidity.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21726420 - 05/26/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I suppose. Ill keep them as they are and see what the fruit look like. How is the potency of your mooshies? Saw u had a nice yield.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21726455 - 05/26/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well my trips are way different then most. I'm on a ssri (zoloft) which is known to reduce the effects of most psychedelics. So I have to eat like 6.5 grams. BUT I did give 2.5 grams to my sister in law and her husband, they split that and they said they had a really good trip... Hardcore giggles.
Thank you! I had 32 grams dry on the first flush. My second flush is already pinning like a boss.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21726495 - 05/26/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats great man, over an oz dry is awesome for a first flush. Good to hear potency is good too.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21729924 - 05/27/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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So, i have few shroomies coming up, these were pins before i introduced bags to fruiting conditions, just yesterday. There is some fuzzy myc growth on the stems. What does it mean? Is there not enough FAE?

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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21730027 - 05/27/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah things are about to get real exciting for you bro!!!
It's called "fuzzy feet", it's usually a low result of FAE. Just fan your bags a couple more times a day. But is this B+ cause my B+ did the same thing in my sgfc.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21730039 - 05/27/15 07:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think its B+, i know the fruit look alot different from ban hua thanon, so i didnt bother marking the bags. Ive only fanned yesterday and today, so i think the FAE was an issue for these couple mooshies for few days before. Ill keep an eye though. Cant wait for pins in all bags!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21730149 - 05/27/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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My pins on my second flush are already getting huge!! You should see them.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21730232 - 05/27/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Throw up a pic
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21730676 - 05/27/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dunked and placed back into sgfc on Saturday.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21731293 - 05/28/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice. Definite advantage of fruiting these in sgfc is the sides of the cake being in the open. Looking forward to these babies growing full size!!!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21732884 - 05/28/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let's see an update of your bags!!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21733409 - 05/28/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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The one bag is going bonkers, got a lot of shroomies growing on the sides of the cake. Gonna be a messy job trying to harvest. Also, a couple tiny pins are forming in another bag.

Fanned a couple more times and misted to get the casing to glisten. Also got a small fan indirectly circulating the air in the corner.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21733438 - 05/28/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah that looks like it's going to be a pain to harvest!! Do you think fanning more is helping? Also do you think the casing layer made a deference?
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21733622 - 05/28/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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No idea at this point, ill have to wait for more shroomies to pop. I think casing helps when workung with rye grains. We'll see what the firat flush looks like, once they all fruit. How are your fattie pins coming along?
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21733696 - 05/28/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude those bastards just keep getting bigger!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21733705 - 05/28/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Saw your thread with the pics. Nice even pinset. Nicely done.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21733771 - 05/28/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wife at a gram and she's tripping balls lol.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21733884 - 05/28/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats awesome. My girl has superhuman tolerance for psychadellics, so i know to up the dose. More along the lines of what u take. I usually go 2 - 2.5 grams dry and that gets me home.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21733963 - 05/28/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah she got heavy visuals at one gram. At 6.5 I still didn't really get visuals.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21737832 - 05/29/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Harvested few of the early bird shroomies. One of them pretty nice size, a couple aborts. Have pins in 2 other bags now. Fan drying few before i pull out the dehydrator, after i harvest a few more. [url]=http://files.shroomery.org/files/15-22/294319841-14329431667991244747257.jpg] [/url]
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21738152 - 05/29/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice monster you have!!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21738357 - 05/29/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks dude. Loving your 2nd flush. Ate a tiny abort and started feeling it, about 20 mins later. I thought i was gonna trip balls. Lol
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21738515 - 05/29/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks man. So far I have 26.2grams dried and more still on the dehydrator.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21740093 - 05/30/15 08:10 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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So i just picked the first flush on the 1 bag.
Half of these have been fan drying since yeasterday. Gonna get em into a dehydrator later today. What temp setting on your dehydrator do you use?
Cake was a bit dry but made it easier to harvest. Took ot out of the bag to do that. If i can get few flishes like thay, from all 6 bags, ill be pretty happy with that. Gotta say though, your sgfc setup seems to yield much better. We'll see how other bags do.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21740203 - 05/30/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I set my dehydrator to 135. Usually take 8-12 hours from fresh to cracker dry.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21744233 - 05/31/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Update: one of the BHT bags is fruiting nicely. This one big shroomie is pretty big for this cube variety.
Having issues with 3 bags though. Boooo
Edited by misiu007 (05/31/15 09:22 AM)
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21744938 - 05/31/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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What issues are you having?
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21744962 - 05/31/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does the dehydrator work well for you, they always over dry mine, the heat takes the potency, and they end up somehow getting messed up no matter what. I usually pick outdoor like chantrelles, lions mane, and psilo. cyans and i just did my first indoor harvest. I usually find that air drying with a fan or dehumidifier works way better can you post pics of them dry. If it works well, id like to know the trick because overnight is way better than a few days!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: rmshroom]
#21745227 - 05/31/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just don't set your temp too high when dehydrating. I set mine to 135 and they come out great.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21745564 - 05/31/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I guess not having issues after all. 3 bags havent pinned yet, and they do have some yellowish mycelium "piss", but i think theyll produce in time. Its only been 5 days, and in fact i just saw a tiny pin pop up in one of them.
Im happy with one of my Thai Tanic bags though, its growing some real nice size shroomies. Ive grown this variety before, and the fruit are usually small to mediim sized, but potent.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21745580 - 05/31/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its my first time drying with dehydrator, so no idea. Consensus seems to be, excessive heat impacts potency, but not to the point where youd notice. I have my dehydrator at 95, its gonna be running 24/7 for awhile, so i dont really care
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21745589 - 05/31/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Trying to talk my girl into shrooming tonight. Lol. Need a good visual flick. Any ideas?
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21745602 - 05/31/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
misiu007 said: Trying to talk my girl into shrooming tonight. Lol. Need a good visual flick. Any ideas?
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Aero]
#21745620 - 05/31/15 05:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nice. I have the british version on blu ray. I love it, my girl refuses to watch though, cause of occasional pray getting eaten. Wtf right? Lol
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21745626 - 05/31/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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misiu007 said: Nice. I have the british version on blu ray. I love it, my girl refuses to watch though, cause of occasional pray getting eaten. Wtf right? Lol
try the Qatsi trilogy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatsi_trilogy
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Aero]
#21748113 - 06/01/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That looks badass aero, ill give it a try.
So I woke up this morning to one of the mycobags fruiting some great size shroomies. Almost wish I had a scale, because these babies weigh a ton.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21753165 - 06/02/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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misiu007 said: That looks badass aero, ill give it a try.
So I woke up this morning to one of the mycobags fruiting some great size shroomies. Almost wish I had a scale, because these babies weigh a ton.

yea watch them films !
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Aero]
#21758252 - 06/03/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I sure will. Saw snowpiercer last time i shroomed, pretty bad ass too. All 6 bags are now fruiting or pinning. Pinsets on first flush BHT bags are looking fantastic.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21758337 - 06/03/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those are looking awesome!!!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21762423 - 06/04/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Growing faster now. No side pins!
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Aero
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21762442 - 06/04/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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misiu007 said: Growing faster now. No side pins!

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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Aero]
#21762855 - 06/04/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21766897 - 06/05/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Almost ready to harvest! How is your grow Zeph?
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Zephen
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21767021 - 06/05/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm waiting for it to pin more. Only got a couple pins near the bottom of the loaves. Hopefully it'll pin a lot more. Can't complain with the first two flushes.
Got a couple jars that hit 100%, now I'm just consolidating them.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21767027 - 06/05/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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But your bags are looking great!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21769909 - 06/06/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks Zeph. Harvest day today. My babies opened their caps overnight, usually i harvest. Right before that happens. Dont have a scale, but this has to be at lease a lb fresh. Picked 2 bags!
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Zephen
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21770316 - 06/06/15 12:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dude that's awesome!!!! Those looks great! Looks better than mine!
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21770373 - 06/06/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think its close. If anything, it shows that either method will produce a pile of shroomies. shroomed last night with my gf. I took only 1.5 g and she took roughly 2. We shroomed hard for about 6 hrs. These babies are pptent as fuck.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: misiu007]
#21770485 - 06/06/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's awesome!!
I'm really disappointed in this third flush. It's only ou ting out about 12 pins. I have no clue what happened this time around.
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Re: Ban Hua Thanon/B+ Mycobag Grow Log (PICS) [Re: Zephen]
#21849356 - 06/24/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love seeing sweet bag grows like this!
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