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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21729491 - 05/27/15 05:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

you sure about that cheech? :cheech:

cannabinoid-
any of a group of closely related compounds that include cannabinol and the active constituents of cannabis.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729544 - 05/27/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Are you trolling?


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21729619 - 05/27/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

is that what you say when you lose an argument?


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21729620 - 05/27/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

If I have no tolerance to weed and I smoke something strong, I'll get a panic attack which can be similar to a panic attack while tripping. That's the only similarity.

People like to say that Cannabis is a psychedelic, but I don't buy it. I see very clear differences between the two. Cannabis is in a class of it's own, period.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Universe]
    #21729625 - 05/27/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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If I have no tolerance to weed and I smoke something strong, I'll get a panic attack which can be similar to a panic attack while tripping. That's the only similarity.

People like to say that Cannabis is a psychedelic, but I don't buy it. I see very clear differences between the two. Cannabis is in a class of it's own, period.




I agree it's a class of its own. It should be.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729626 - 05/27/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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is that what you say when you lose an argument?



I haven't lost anything. I was right about everything I said, you just don't understand the information presented to you.

JWH isn't a cannabinoid. If JWH is a cannabinoid then Salvia is an opioid. Which is wrong.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729630 - 05/27/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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you sure about that cheech? :cheech:

cannabinoid-
any of a group of closely related compounds that include cannabinol and the active constituents of cannabis.




Pretty damn sure, yes. Infact I am positive. This should also answer your question about synthnoids. By the way, it is just an abbreviation for synthetic cannabinoids. (You should also note that synthnoids are NOT cannabinoids)

"There is controversy about calling Spice and K2 synthetic cannabis. Synthetic marijuana is a misnomer according to Lewis Nelson, MD, a medical toxicologist at the NYU School of Medicine. "It's really quite different, and the effects are much more unpredictable. It's dangerous, and there is no quality control in what you are getting."[4] Since the term synthetic does not apply to the plant but rather to the chemical that the plant contains (tetrahydrocannabinol), the term synthetic cannabinoid is more appropriate.[5] Research on the safety of synthetic cannabinoids is now becoming available. Initial studies are focused on the role of synthetic cannabinoids in psychosis. Synthetic cannabis may precipitate psychosis and in some cases it may be prolonged. Some studies suggest that synthetic cannabinoid intoxication is associated with acute psychosis, worsening of previously stable psychotic disorders, and it may trigger a chronic (long-term) psychotic disorder among vulnerable individuals such as those with a family history of mental illness."

http://www.emed-journal.com/index.php?id=26076&cHash=071010&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=204070


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21729649 - 05/27/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

where do you get your info? other than you made it up to justify your own views.

im actually researching and posting real definitions.

you have not presented on bit of info you have gotten from another source seems like you just talk from your ass.
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your post talks about the controvery, too bad its still classified as a synthetic cannabinoid even though you just wish it weren't.

I didn't say synthnoids that's a made up word, I said synth noids.

please read the full thread before responding.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729657 - 05/27/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Dude it is just a different spelling of it... it means the same thing


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #21729682 - 05/27/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

actually one is two words and one is one word.

he said all synthesized drugs are called synthnoids but that word doesn't exist.

I have only seen the word synth noids in one place.

im not the one making up words. im not the one reclassifying substances.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729698 - 05/27/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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he said all synthesized drugs are called synthnoids but that word doesn't exist.

im not the one making up words. im not the one reclassifying substances.




Ah I understand now. Yes, he is wrong. Synthnoid (or synth noid, whichever you prefer...) means SYNTHetic cannabiNOID and nothing else.

And I am not reclassifying substances..... There are endocannabinoids (anandamide for example, ones made by the body), normal cannabinoids (or phytocannabinoid if you will), and synthetic cannabinoids. They can never be like the other ones. Normal cannabinoids are fat soluble for instance, whereas endocannabinoids are not.


http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm058183t


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729704 - 05/27/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I didn't say that. Just shut the fuck up, you're mentally deficient.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21729712 - 05/27/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Here's an example- why do people call synthnoids synthnoids? What does the word synthetic mean? Why is THC not a synthnoid?




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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21729718 - 05/27/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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he said all synthesized drugs are called synthnoids but that word doesn't exist.

im not the one making up words. im not the one reclassifying substances.




Ah I understand now. Yes, he is wrong. Synthnoid (or synth noid, whichever you prefer...) means SYNTHetic cannabiNOID and nothing else.

And I am not reclassifying substances..... There are endocannabinoids (anandamide for example, ones made by the body), normal cannabinoids (or phytocannabinoid if you will), and synthetic cannabinoids. They can never be like the other ones. Normal cannabinoids are fat soluble for instance, whereas endocannabinoids are not.


http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm058183t




thank you for understanding. I get what youre saying as well but cannabinoid is a cannabinoid whether the word synthetic is in front or not.
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I didn't say that. Just shut the fuck up, you're mentally deficient.




you mad bro haha
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XLCaps said:
Here's an example- why do people call synthnoids synthnoids? What does the word synthetic mean? Why is THC not a synthnoid?




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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9]
    #21729737 - 05/27/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I see your comprehension of my inflection is as thourough here as it is anywhere else you apply yourself.


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21729747 - 05/27/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Hell no :lol:


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: ShroomyBudz]
    #21729754 - 05/27/15 06:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

thorough* :lol:


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Trichome_Delta9] * 1
    #21729764 - 05/27/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

There are different types of cannabinoids that behave differently. How hard is that to understand?


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Starless]
    #21729773 - 05/27/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

calling them by what they are is misleading... gotchya....


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Re: Weed stronger than LSD [Re: Starless]
    #21729796 - 05/27/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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lol comparing 200mg of THC to 200mg of LSD? Have you even heard of binding affinity before? :lol: Physically, LSD is stronger per MG than almost (if not ALL) other drugs.

And like I said before, you cannot compare the two because THC isn't a true psychedelic. It is both a psychedelic and an intoxicant, which is a class of it's own. LSD is a true psychedelic.

That is why you can compare weed to psychedelics, opiates, stimulants, and even benzos. Although they share many things with all of those drugs, weed will never give you the full effect of any other drug. It is it's own drug with so many similarities to others. LSD is a psychedelic, and just a psychedelic!




I completely agree. They're subjectively incomparable, leaving us with only an objective point of comparison, where LSD is clearly more potent. Regardless, comparing these substances seems to be illogical and ultimately useless. I still can't comprehend how cannabis could be perceived as more intense than LSD in any way, though.




Didn't my post explain it? FOr me, cannabis is a lot more intense than LSD in the following ways:

- I can interact with people very well on LSD, on cannabis I cannot.

- Weed causes much more paranoia for me and cuts through my ego, whereas LSD tends to initiaully reduce my ego but then intensify it. If i eat a bunch of cannabis edibles, I trip out and feel like I am really on the "edge" of something big, on LSD I am usually relaxed and nowhere near my "edge".


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