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Cops deserve more respect from drug users
    #21708646 - 05/21/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Think of all the shit you have to go through to be a cop. You have to have a really strong desire to serve and protect, in most cases. I suspect very few go into the profession to arrest people for drugs. And if they do, it is probably because they are misinformed or stupid, which they can't necessarily help. Sometimes they can be downright belligerent, but many people in the general population are too. Even many drug users. The stereotyping goes both ways.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo] * 1
    #21708647 - 05/21/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21708658 - 05/21/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

How fucking original.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo] * 1
    #21708663 - 05/21/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

How about this one?

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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 4
    #21708673 - 05/22/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Anybody seen Bitter Cactus lately?


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo] * 1
    #21708680 - 05/22/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Think of all the shit you have to go through to be a cop. You have to have a really strong desire to serve and protect, in most cases. I suspect very few go into the profession to arrest people for drugs. And if they do, it is probably because they are misinformed or stupid, which they can't necessarily help. Sometimes they can be downright belligerent, but many people in the general population are too. Even many drug users. The stereotyping goes both ways.





cops don't have to go through shit. they pay like 1500$ to be pushed through a phony "police acadamy"


volunteer Firefighters
have to pass far more stringent tests than pigs do.


seriously. its more difficult to become a brick layer than a police officer


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: lowbrow]
    #21708685 - 05/22/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

FTP....obviously.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Adolin]
    #21708687 - 05/22/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

But they definitely have a stressful job.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #21708688 - 05/22/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Being misinformed or stupid can be helped. It's extremely easy to fix in fact. I'd even go so far as saying that someone too stupid to be corrected should not have a gun and a position that puts them in control of most people. In fact, being a cop one of the requirements should be that they are smarter than the average person.

Good cops deserve respect. The problem is there are so few of them. I've had A LOT of police contact in my life and every single one of them has approached whatever situation I witnessed in the most assholish, hostile and demeaning way possible. They've all went above and beyond to portray the "I'm above you" attitude.

They love to hide behind "I'm just doing my job" and many people like to back them on that notion. But no where in their job description is it mandated that they must be a prick or treat everyone they encounter as low life pieces of shit that don't deserve respect or dignity..


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708695 - 05/22/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yea but they get to drive fast when ever they want, can run red lights, detain anyone they damn well please, and they can commit murder and get away with it, a license to kill. What more can a boy want


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: zZZz]
    #21708697 - 05/22/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Yea but they get to drive fast when ever they want, can run red lights, detain anyone they damn well please, and they can commit murder and get away with it, a license to kill. What more can a boy want





they can also blatantly lie to civilians and suspects, legally.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Adolin]
    #21708700 - 05/22/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yea that too, they can also assault u, and u can't do anything back or u go to jail for half ur life. Fucking pussies :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Adolin]
    #21708703 - 05/22/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

While we cant. Fuck em.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Matt87] * 3
    #21708706 - 05/22/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I just don't see much truth in what OP is saying. Yeah, maybe there are people who want to be a cop because they have a sense of duty to server. Those people don't last. The cop culture is not about that. It's about power, and being respected. It's the thrill of having power over people. It's about fraternity and a siege mentality. It's about being an adrenalin junky.

I really don't think there are many decent people who remain in law enforcement for long.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21708711 - 05/22/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think drug users deserve more respect from cops

But that's exactly what any drug user with some semblance of sanity would say isn't it


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21708734 - 05/22/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

The other day I parked in an empty parking lot at a private catholic day school for about an hour. Just as I got back to the lot, a cop dropped a ticket (which wasn't since it is private property there was no civil fine, but towing has been requested) under my wiper and was sitting in his car chatting with who I assume was a school administrator. He made some condescending comment about how would I like it if someone came and parked in my driveway. I resisted making the obvious point that an empty parking lot is nothing like a driveway. I simply said sorry to the lady, and got into the car, started the engine and then proceeded to wait 10 minutes for the cop to get out of the way. It was just total passive aggressive  bullshit.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21708736 - 05/22/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I really don't think there are many decent people who remain in law enforcement for long.





i agree. i think it really depends on what kind of police you are though.


your post reminded me of an example of what good police are:

it happens that 2 close family friends of mine are on the local police force

the thing is, one is a 911 dispatcher, and the other one oversees the automobiles of the force. my dad is a mechanic and he became best friends over 20 years ago with the guy, and my mom went to school with the dispatcher


only posting this to say that some positions in the police force arent based on brutality, and there actually are a few cops i love

despite how much i hate on cops, neither have actually arrested or harassed anyone, that i know of.


makes me feel like a bit of a hypocrite. still hate most cops though


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: lowbrow]
    #21708739 - 05/22/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Anybody seen Bitter Cactus lately?




No, have you?


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21708746 - 05/22/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I just think its patently stupid to hate on police as a group. Our society would fall apart without law enforcement, and a lot of them are doing important jobs. Do you realize how stupid it is to hate a person because there is a law that he didn't make but he is nevertheless supposed to follow? Countless cops don't give a shit about whether you smoke weed or eat mushrooms, yet you demonize them because of their livelihood.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo] * 1
    #21708753 - 05/22/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I hate the game not the players, but then again it's the players who keep the game going..


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo] * 3
    #21708758 - 05/22/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I do think that public opinion of cops is plummeting, and public opinion is what keeps them out of jail and trouble for shooting and beating citizens. Without the benefit of the doubt that juries give cops, indictments and convictions will become more routine
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I just think its patently stupid to hate on police as a group. Our society would fall apart without law enforcement, and a lot of them are doing important jobs. Do you realize how stupid it is to hate a person because there is a law that he didn't make but he is nevertheless supposed to follow? Countless cops don't give a shit about whether you smoke weed or eat mushrooms, yet you demonize them because of their livelihood.




No, I think a lot of these generalizations are fair. The cop culture is pervasive and rigid. People that don't fit in won't make it as a cop.

Cops are members of a gang, and like any gang, loyalty to the gang and membership is the golden rule.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708761 - 05/22/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Countless cops do, and arrests for crimes that arnt anti-social in the slightest account for the majority of arrests. Purely by statistics they are responsible for millions of lives being absolutely ruined over harmless things like marijuana. Anyone who willingly signs up to do that to people is fucked up in my books.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708762 - 05/22/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

They give a shit about the money they make when they bust us

The entire police force is a mafia and anyone who doesn't recognize this is blind


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21708769 - 05/22/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Pervasive and rigid? I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. A culture pervades the values of all individuals that belong to it, by definition. And I think discipline-heavy vocations such as that of police officers would tend to have a rigid rather than flexible culture. Goes with the territory.

But I didn't say that there is nothing wrong with the police culture. I assume you mean in the US because that's where you are located. I think there is a great deal wrong with it. But I still believe in giving everyone individual total respect until he actively disrespects you.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21708772 - 05/22/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Countless cops do, and arrests for crimes that arnt anti-social in the slightest account for the majority of arrests. Purely by statistics they are responsible for millions of lives being absolutely ruined over harmless things like marijuana. Anyone who willingly signs up to do that to people is fucked up in my books.




Don't make assumptions about someone's intents.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21708780 - 05/22/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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They give a shit about the money they make when they bust us

The entire police force is a mafia and anyone who doesn't recognize this is blind



Only recently did the federal government ban the seizure of property without reason. Departments were out there robbing people of their cash on the highways with impunity.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708781 - 05/22/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Dont tell me what to do, more importantly address what im saying instead of making some pissant cop out.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708784 - 05/22/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I think it's pretty safe to assume the average cop will fuck you if he finds you with a significant amount of drugs

Sometimes assumptions can be quite accurate


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708786 - 05/22/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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But I still believe in giving everyone individual total respect until he actively disrespects you.




well in that case the fat lady has sung


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21708795 - 05/22/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Dont tell me what to do, more importantly address what im saying instead of making some pissant cop out.




LOL. Okay, do what you want. I was addressing what you were saying - you are assuming that a cop signs up with the intent of ruining drug users' lives. Feel free to run wild with that assumption. Be wild and care free with your hate.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708808 - 05/22/15 12:56 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

That wasnt what I was saying at all. They sign up for the power, the majority of them anyways. Few cops sign up for "the greater good" its all about money and force.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708812 - 05/22/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

cops are all about that hate, where do u think they get their power from, cuz it sure dont come from lovin a nigga.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #21708843 - 05/22/15 01:08 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Okay, sorry. I do see your point. I myself would never want to be a cop even if all drugs were legal and I never had to arrest anyone, and I don't quite understand personalities that do. I was just kind of compelled to make this point after a cop pulled me over but then was super chill and dismissed the ticket. But I agree that cop culture is a cesspool. Partly I was just bored and wanted to start a contentious topic.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21708896 - 05/22/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Okay, sorry. I do see your point. I myself would never want to be a cop even if all drugs were legal and I never had to arrest anyone, and I don't quite understand personalities that do. I was just kind of compelled to make this point after a cop pulled me over but then was super chill and dismissed the ticket. But I agree that cop culture is a cesspool. Partly I was just bored and wanted to start a contentious topic.




Did you actually do something to deserve a ticket? Maybe what happened had nothing to do with him being chill. Maybe he wanted to get a better look in your car, or you matched a description. Maybe what you thought was a cop being nice, was a cop making illegal stops without probable cause so he can violate your civil rights by making you think you got lucky.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21710145 - 05/22/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, I did something. If he pulled me over for no reason I would not state that he was being chill.

This really gets back to my original notion that drug users are SEARCHING for faults and reasons to hate on each and every cop. Such a bad attitude is not going to win any leniency or understanding from them.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21710181 - 05/22/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Well, believe it or not, a little politeness and courtesy can go a long way. There's been a few incidents where I've been caught with a little bit of weed, and all the cop did was confiscate the weed and let me go my way. I'm pretty sure if I gave the cops a huge hairy attitude, I've been arrested and thrown in jail.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21710194 - 05/22/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

One time a cop caught me walking around town smoking a J. All he said to me was to be careful because there could be kids around.


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    #21710519 - 05/22/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Well, believe it or not, a little politeness and courtesy can go a long way. There's been a few incidents where I've been caught with a little bit of weed, and all the cop did was confiscate the weed and let me go my way. I'm pretty sure if I gave the cops a huge hairy attitude, I've been arrested and thrown in jail.




This has probably never happened to a black person ever.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21710538 - 05/22/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Sad, but true.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21710553 - 05/22/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

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They give a shit about the money they make when they bust us

The entire police force is a mafia and anyone who doesn't recognize this is blind



Only recently did the federal government ban the seizure of property without reason. Departments were out there robbing people of their cash on the highways with impunity.




True dat yo.

A cop took 16 dollars from me once, when I was 17 because it was "Drug money" (I was being an angsty teenage piece of shit, because he took my weed though)

I should have just shut my fucking mouth, but instead I payed 16 dollars to talk shit to these fuckers.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21710590 - 05/22/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I know. the fast and loose way they interpret the asset forfeiture law is outrageous. I mean, I can see the sense in applying it to some filthy rich cocaine dealer moving shitloads of the stuff and using the stuff to buy a mansion and fancy cars, but there's been many cases of people just carrying lots of cash but no drugs or anything and the cops seizing the cash anyway using the insane justification that somehow the money itself is guilty. The guys can get it back eventually, after months spent in court rooms. This country is going insane.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21710600 - 05/22/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

But what did you actually do to get pulled over in the first place, were you not wearing a seatbelt? because that is a personal choice and nothing more than legal extortion.

If you were speeding or texting, then yeah, you could of effected other people so I could see that being a legitimate reason.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21710605 - 05/22/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Its a love hate relationship for me


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    #21710619 - 05/22/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Oh no, I got pulled over for whiskey plates (my wonderful father had them and apparently since my car was in his name, and I was underage, 17, I had to put his whiskey plates on my car as well)

And then they popped me with weed. They took my 16 dollars when I started talking shit to them.
"So where'd you get this from?"
"A guy named Joe"
"This guy Joe got a last name?"
"Doesn't everyone"
"What is it?"
"Joe Mama, Bitch!"

They didn't think it was funny.

They stole my fucking backpack too because it was a "bong carrying device"

And that conversation went like this, one officer to another :
"Hey do we have like, an evidence bag to put this in?"
"not that size"
"Oh" to me now "We're going to have to take your backpack too"
"Oh come on you're just taking that because you don't have an evidence bag"
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    #21710640 - 05/22/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Lets complain some more about our pathetic first world problems and police force that isnt anything like other corrupt police forces in the world :huxleyfacepalm:


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    #21710702 - 05/22/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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One time a cop caught me walking around town smoking a J. All he said to me was to be careful because there could be kids around.



You and Le_Canard are lucky. Only time I've been caught with weed by the cops it was less than a bowls worth (like literally .1 or .2 grams) and I got arrested for it and taken to jail. I wasn't a dick to the cops either. I was polite and courteous. Fucking stupid cops :mad2:


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    #21710709 - 05/22/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Seriously. If you asshats think being a cop is so glorious why don't you do it? Why not be a force of change instead of whiny chatter?


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    #21711100 - 05/22/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Lets complain some more about our pathetic first world problems and police force that isnt anything like other corrupt police forces in the world :huxleyfacepalm:




Actually. We are becoming like one of those not so civilized countries Americans used to not want to travel to.


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    #21711114 - 05/22/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Becoming?

Uhh, have you seen America lately? There are A LOT of places I would consider third world.


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    #21711167 - 05/22/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Becoming?

Uhh, have you seen America lately? There are A LOT of places I would consider third world.




If you're going to make that comparison why are you showing a poor part of New Orleans vs. a rich part of Johannesburg?



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    #21711183 - 05/22/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Have you ever played "Syria or Detroit"?

It's where you get a bunch of pictures, and guess whether they're from war torn Syria, or Detroit.

It's not easy.
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    #21711194 - 05/22/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Becoming?

Uhh, have you seen America lately? There are A LOT of places I would consider third world.




There is. But you know what? There always has been. Contrary to what some seem to think, America has never been a utter paradise where everyone lived in a nice house and had enough food to eat.


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    #21711196 - 05/22/15 04:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:ilold: @ that. I did get them all right but people unfamiliar with both places might not.


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    #21711205 - 05/22/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You can go back in the pages too, there are more pictures on that page than just those ones lol.

It's like, almost as funny to play that as it is fucked up.

Play with a group of people and take turns, everyone drinks when they get it wrong, etc etc.

I really just look at the graffiti to cheat tho.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21711266 - 05/22/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I've met nice cops, I've met asshole cops.

Nice cops will just leave you alone and look the other way, asshole cops ruin lives.


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    #21711315 - 05/22/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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I know. the fast and loose way they interpret the asset forfeiture law is outrageous. I mean, I can see the sense in applying it to some filthy rich cocaine dealer moving shitloads of the stuff and using the stuff to buy a mansion and fancy cars, but there's been many cases of people just carrying lots of cash but no drugs or anything and the cops seizing the cash anyway using the insane justification that somehow the money itself is guilty. The guys can get it back eventually, after months spent in court rooms. This country is going insane.




That's wishful thinking. 90% of the time they never see the money again.


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    #21711327 - 05/22/15 04:50 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I got robbed like 70 dollars and filed a police report, and they caught the guy who stole it, and I never got my fucking money back...

I doubt they'll give back a fucking penny they seize.


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    #21711331 - 05/22/15 04:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'm pretty sure Afroman never again saw his $60,000 LEO took from him in St. Louis anyway.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21711335 - 05/22/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah that too. But we're talking about cases where like... they pull someone over for a "traffic violation".. find them with 200,000 in cash or whatever, and seize it all because it might be "drug money". Most of the time they never see the money again, even if they obtained it 100% legitimately AND can prove it. Sometimes they get it back, but they have to go through months of fighting in court and thousands in lawyers fees.
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    #21711338 - 05/22/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Oh yeah, I know what cases you meant, I just thought I'd give a story about me getting robbed twice.

First by some fuck head junkie, and second by the fuckin' LEO's taking my shit from the fuck head junkie.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Shroomism]
    #21711339 - 05/22/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Le_Canard said:
I know. the fast and loose way they interpret the asset forfeiture law is outrageous. I mean, I can see the sense in applying it to some filthy rich cocaine dealer moving shitloads of the stuff and using the stuff to buy a mansion and fancy cars, but there's been many cases of people just carrying lots of cash but no drugs or anything and the cops seizing the cash anyway using the insane justification that somehow the money itself is guilty. The guys can get it back eventually, after months spent in court rooms. This country is going insane.




That's wishful thinking. 90% of the time they never see the money again.




Do tell? I wasn't aware of that statistic. I hope the asshole cops enjoy their shiny new death toys the bought with the proceeds..........IN HELL!


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    #21711342 - 05/22/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Not really surprising though, police are the biggest gang in America.


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    #21711347 - 05/22/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

Shroomism said:
Quote:

Le_Canard said:
I know. the fast and loose way they interpret the asset forfeiture law is outrageous. I mean, I can see the sense in applying it to some filthy rich cocaine dealer moving shitloads of the stuff and using the stuff to buy a mansion and fancy cars, but there's been many cases of people just carrying lots of cash but no drugs or anything and the cops seizing the cash anyway using the insane justification that somehow the money itself is guilty. The guys can get it back eventually, after months spent in court rooms. This country is going insane.




That's wishful thinking. 90% of the time they never see the money again.




Do tell? I wasn't aware of that statistic. I hope the asshole cops enjoy their shiny new death toys the bought with the proceeds..........IN HELL!




Well I pulled the statistic out of my ass.. but from all the incidents I have read about, that's about my best guess.
Very rarely do they get their money back. And if they do, it's usually after an extensive legal battle and they have to use half or most of the money paying legal fees, even if they are proven completely innocent.
Here's a few examples
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/11/civil-asset-forfeiture-cash-money_n_6623972.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/08/they-fought-the-law-who-won/
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21711348 - 05/22/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

In 1992 I was a suspect in an arson case because I happened to walk past a house as it was being set on fire. I gave the arson investigator a pair of my pants to send to the lab and test for gasoline. Never got them back.

Had 40 grams of weed, a scale and a pipe in my college dorm room taken as well after police searched it while I was being questioned. (Did not need a warrant since the University dorm room administrator was with them and gave them permission.)

After that day I learned how important it was to know my rights even when I am completely innocent..


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    #21711352 - 05/22/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

http://fee.org/freeman/detail/seizure-fever-the-war-on-property-rights/
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Unfortunately, the more forfeiture laws legislatures enacted, the less attention police seem to pay to major criminals. Representative Henry Hyde of Illinois noted in June 1993 that 80 percent of the people whose property is seized by the federal government under drug laws are never formally charged with any crime.




Not the statistic you we're looking for, because it's not the percentage of people who do or do not get their shit back, but 80 percent of shit they take, is from innocent people.


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    #21711356 - 05/22/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Locally *elected* police force would solve many of these problems.


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    #21711393 - 05/22/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Someone should make a documentary on police corruption in America. That'd be really interesting.


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    #21711412 - 05/22/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

There's already been like, 50 made. Here's a couple











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    #21711428 - 05/22/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks. I'm actually going to sit down with my dinner and watch one. Which one do you recommend?


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    #21711432 - 05/22/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I'd start with the last one and work up


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    #21711591 - 05/22/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Think of all the shit you have to go through to be a cop. You have to have a really strong desire to serve and protect, in most cases. I suspect very few go into the profession to arrest people for drugs. And if they do, it is probably because they are misinformed or stupid, which they can't necessarily help. Sometimes they can be downright belligerent, but many people in the general population are too. Even many drug users. The stereotyping goes both ways.



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    #21711806 - 05/22/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Locally *elected* police force would solve many of these problems.




The fact that we elect people to jobs in the justice system is a huge part of the problem, not the solution.


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    #21713584 - 05/23/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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After that day I learned how important it was to know my rights even when I am completely innocent..




I once was mugged by a knife on the street and they took my cigarettes and bag of chips I bought. The person who did it was in the store behind me and followed me. The cops went to the store and I pointed him out in the surveillance footage. There like yeah we'll contact you back soon. But never heard back from the cops. Its like the whole case just went out the window... fucking cops man they ain't doing their job. I got robbed and show them the perp on video footage. I justed wasted my time bothering to even call in the crime. lol


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    #21714187 - 05/23/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Did anybody elses cop cars change in their area recently?

The cops around here all recently traded in there Crown Vics for Chargers, SUV's, and Trucks.

All the new paint jobs say nothing about Serving and protecting, the old ones did.


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    #21714194 - 05/23/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, sort of I guess. Not too recently.

We got new cars within the past couple years. Almost no Crown Vics left on the road down here, It's all chargers...


But you know what that means?

Retired Police Chargers at auction
:prettyflyforawhiteguy:

If I can buy a ex police cruiser crown vic at 500 bucks, at an auction.

I can't wait until a few years I can pick up a dodge charger police interceptor for dirt cheap too.


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    #21714247 - 05/23/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, sort of I guess. Not too recently.

We got new cars within the past couple years. Almost no Crown Vics left on the road down here, It's all chargers...


But you know what that means?

Retired Police Chargers at auction
:prettyflyforawhiteguy:

If I can buy a ex police cruiser crown vic at 500 bucks, at an auction.

I can't wait until a few years I can pick up a dodge charger police interceptor for dirt cheap too.





I'll stick with my Subaru with 200,000 miles on it. Just returned from an offroad desert trip and another day jaunt offroading shooting trip and it kicked ass. Also nice to get 23 miles to the gallon and be able to sleep in the back :smile:


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    #21714257 - 05/23/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I had a Turbo'd Legacy Outback back in the day.

2.2 L Turbo I believe. Shit hauled ass, and I loved taking it offroading, I would pass trucks stuck in mud going like 40-50 lmao.

Can't get stuck if you never slow down.


This is basically it, the year 2000, only mine had a hood scoop because It had a turbo.

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    #21714274 - 05/23/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, sort of I guess. Not too recently.

We got new cars within the past couple years. Almost no Crown Vics left on the road down here, It's all chargers...


But you know what that means?

Retired Police Chargers at auction
:prettyflyforawhiteguy:

If I can buy a ex police cruiser crown vic at 500 bucks, at an auction.

I can't wait until a few years I can pick up a dodge charger police interceptor for dirt cheap too.





I'll stick with my Subaru with 200,000 miles on it. Just returned from an offroad desert trip and another day jaunt offroading shooting trip and it kicked ass. Also nice to get 23 miles to the gallon and be able to sleep in the back :smile:
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I had a Turbo'd Legacy Outback back in the day.

2.2 L Turbo I believe. Shit hauled ass, and I loved taking it offroading, I would pass trucks stuck in mud going like 40-50 lmao.

Can't get stuck if you never slow down.


This is basically it, the year 2000, only mine had a hood scoop because It had a turbo.

Got T-boned and totaled it :frown:



I'm sorry to hear that. Legacy's are awesome. Your car was a more baddass of my 2000 impreza outback sport.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #21714286 - 05/23/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's a bit bigger than the Outback Sport. It's longer, more of a station wagon than the hatch back or SUV or whatever the fuck an outback sport is Other than ugly
haha, no offence that car looks gross.
Other than that, yeah, basically the same car.

Shit got great fucking mileage too, not 23 though. Probably like 18 city 20 highway.

Thats AWD though, I never used the FWD fuse. Didn't even try it.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #21714288 - 05/23/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah our cop cars have changed. We still have the old Crown Vics but there's quite a few new ones. Tahoes mostly. There's some golden colored Chevy car I'm not sure what kind exactly (Googling images if I had to guess, I'd say a Cruze). All the new ones have hidden lights and the paint jobs on them make it almost impossible to see they're police (except at night, then the paint is clearly reflected by the headlights). During the day it looks like it used to be a cop car and the decals had been removed leaving that faded imprint of "Police".

I also saw on Facebook the other day that we have a new police truck as well, it's painted like the Crown Vics, but it's been bagged.. Lol..



This is what they look like.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21714298 - 05/23/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)


Closest thing I can find.
THESE FUCKING THINGS MAN. THE DEVIL.

I know exactly what You're talking about, we have them here too.

It's an all black car, with POLICE written on the side in black reflective paint, so literally the only time you can see that they're cops, is at night.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21714307 - 05/23/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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It's a bit bigger than the Outback Sport. It's longer, more of a station wagon than the hatch back or SUV or whatever the fuck an outback sport is Other than ugly
haha, no offence that car looks gross.
Other than that, yeah, basically the same car.

Shit got great fucking mileage too, not 23 though. Probably like 18 city 20 highway.

Thats AWD though, I never used the FWD fuse. Didn't even try it.




I would much rather have your car, its like a million times more baddass in every way. I wish I had a full outback and not a halfassed version. That extra space is a game changer. 

My cars not a looker, but 1400 bucks got me a reliable car for 3 years and almost 50,000 miles with the only repair being a 100 dollar radiator and a 10 dollar belt. I :heart: my Lesbaru :smile:
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Closest thing I can find.
THESE FUCKING THINGS MAN. THE DEVIL.

I know exactly what You're talking about, we have them here too.

It's an all black car, with POLICE written on the side in black reflective paint, so literally the only time you can see that they're cops, is at night.




Thats fucking twisted man, luckily we don't have those here. We do however have undercovers in everything from a Camry to a Cadillac

My roommate has a friend in visiting from Denmark and he tells me that undercovers and cop trickery is illegal there. Maybe one day the United States will join the rest of the free world and stop treating its people like revenue sources for cops and private prisions.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21714308 - 05/23/15 01:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I'm pretty suspicious of any black Tahoe now.. As far as I'm concerned, they're all cops.. :lol:


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21714317 - 05/23/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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My cars not a looker, but 1400 bucks got me a reliable car for 3 years and almost 50,000 miles with the only repair being a 100 dollar radiator and a 10 dollar belt. I :heart: my Lesbaru :smile:




Yeah, I paid 4k for my SoobyDoo with like 30 thousand on it. The only repair was a radiator and you're at 200k though?

Prepare for a headgasket leak, seriously. I'm surprised you didn't get one at like 120k. That's usually where it strikes in Soobys.

Mine had 260k miles on it when It died. Still drove like a fucking champ.

Those were hard miles too, I was NOT nice to that thing. Had to replace the clutch a lot though, maybe like 3 times possibly 4. Which isn't a lot really, a new clutch every 50k miles isnt bad. I beat the shit out of that car and it didn't care.

I'll get a new one, eventually. That's my dream car honestly. My friends all say I'm fucking stupid because they're all like "Oh man if I could have any car I'd have a ferariginilambugatti" Or whatever the fuck and I'm just like.

"Turbo Diesel Sooby"
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The world's first commercial Horizontally-Opposed Diesel Engine developed for passenger vehicles is the SUBARU BOXER DIESEL. When petrol engines are converted to diesel, strengthening of the engine block usually makes the engine bigger and heavier. The SUBARU BOXER, however, was originally designed with rigidity in mind, allowing the 92.0 mm x 75.0 mm bore and stroke of the 2.0-litre petrol four-cylinder engine to be changed to a square 86.0 mm x 86.0 mm design. The result is a more compact combustion chamber and greater fuel efficiency, and combined with a higher pressure common rail fuel injection, an improved oxidizing catalyst with closed Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF), a variable nozzle turbo and electric power steering, these all help to reduce fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. Ceramic glow plugs also quicken starting in cold weather. And whilst meeting the ultra-clean EURO5 emission standards, the engine delivers even more torque compared to previous models. A prodigious 350-Nm of peak torque is delivered at a lower 1,600 rpm – providing smooth, free-breathing performance at any speed. These advantages are evidence of the vision that Subaru has in using the Horizontally-Opposed Engine.



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Yeah I'm pretty suspicious of any black Tahoe now.. As far as I'm concerned, they're all cops.. :lol:




Not just Tahoes, they do this on Chargers too, this is just the only pic I could find.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21714321 - 05/23/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)



I'm trying to find a picture of it on a Charger or a normal car, but check this out, so you can see what it looks like during day vs at night.

It's fucked up man.

Edit : Found some.


"Oh I'll just be careful around black cars"


Oh is that right?
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21714338 - 05/23/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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My cars not a looker, but 1400 bucks got me a reliable car for 3 years and almost 50,000 miles with the only repair being a 100 dollar radiator and a 10 dollar belt. I :heart: my Lesbaru :smile:




Yeah, I paid 4k for my SoobyDoo with like 30 thousand on it. The only repair was a radiator and you're at 200k though?

Prepare for a headgasket leak, seriously. I'm surprised you didn't get one at like 120k. That's usually where it strikes in Soobys.

Mine had 260k miles on it when It died. Still drove like a fucking champ.

Those were hard miles too, I was NOT nice to that thing. Had to replace the clutch a lot though, maybe like 3 times possibly 4. Which isn't a lot really, a new clutch every 50k miles isnt bad. I beat the shit out of that car and it didn't care.

I'll get a new one, eventually. That's my dream car honestly. My friends all say I'm fucking stupid because they're all like "Oh man if I could have any car I'd have a ferariginilambugatti" Or whatever the fuck and I'm just like.

"Turbo Diesel Sooby"
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2.0-LITRE DOHC TURBO SUBARU BOXER DIESEL
The world's first commercial Horizontally-Opposed Diesel Engine developed for passenger vehicles is the SUBARU BOXER DIESEL. When petrol engines are converted to diesel, strengthening of the engine block usually makes the engine bigger and heavier. The SUBARU BOXER, however, was originally designed with rigidity in mind, allowing the 92.0 mm x 75.0 mm bore and stroke of the 2.0-litre petrol four-cylinder engine to be changed to a square 86.0 mm x 86.0 mm design. The result is a more compact combustion chamber and greater fuel efficiency, and combined with a higher pressure common rail fuel injection, an improved oxidizing catalyst with closed Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF), a variable nozzle turbo and electric power steering, these all help to reduce fuel consumption and CO2 emissions. Ceramic glow plugs also quicken starting in cold weather. And whilst meeting the ultra-clean EURO5 emission standards, the engine delivers even more torque compared to previous models. A prodigious 350-Nm of peak torque is delivered at a lower 1,600 rpm – providing smooth, free-breathing performance at any speed. These advantages are evidence of the vision that Subaru has in using the Horizontally-Opposed Engine.



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Yeah I'm pretty suspicious of any black Tahoe now.. As far as I'm concerned, they're all cops.. :lol:




Not just Tahoes, they do this on Chargers too, this is just the only pic I could find.




I hope not, I bought it around 160k and it had factory replaced transmission, it also had a salvaged title so I'm hoping that repair was already done but i've already gotten my moneys worth out of it so I'm driving it into the ground.

A Turbo Diesel Subee is like a dream car, I hope to have one in my lifetime.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Lizard Eyes]
    #21714349 - 05/23/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

160k and a salvage title? Most likely yeah. It would have blown a headgasket like a week or two after you bought it if it hadn't been worked on.

The 2000 year soobs, are fucking awful when it comes to headgasket problems.

Its like 500-2000 to get done in shops too, depending on weather they have to machine any new parts. Almost cheaper to get a whole new engine, you can pick up a turbo sooby engine for like, 3-4k


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Epigallo]
    #21714712 - 05/23/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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But they definitely have a stressful job.


How so probably 99% of therm do nothing more stressful than pulling over soccer moms for speeding and busting Highschool kids for keg parties. Fact is Ironworkers and underground Miners, Roofers, most and other  building trades Stand a far higher chance of being hurt or killed on the job than even an inner city cop in a bad area.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21714724 - 05/23/15 04:10 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah I'm pretty suspicious of any black Tahoe now.. As far as I'm concerned, they're all cops.. :lol:



You gotta watch those old bastards who buy White  Crown Vics with dog dish hubcaps.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21714742 - 05/23/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I know they do it on other cars. We have a golden Chevy (most likely a Cruze) done the same way. I don't think that one even has the push bars or the search light. There is literally nothing to tip you off to the fact that it's a cop car unless you have eagle vision and spot the writing on the side. Most of ours are just black Tahoes though. I'm sure we have others I just haven't managed to spot yet. They're all pretty new to this area. Been around maybe a year. Hopefully they're just doing some type of test program and decide it didn't go so well and they scrap the idea of adding more. I'd at least like to know the asshole behind me tailgating me is a cop so I don't do something stupid in front of one. :lol:


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21715432 - 05/23/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Locally *elected* police force would solve many of these problems.




The fact that we elect people to jobs in the justice system is a huge part of the problem, not the solution.





I'm talking about the local police.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: SoupSandwich]
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Locally *elected* police force would solve many of these problems.




The fact that we elect people to jobs in the justice system is a huge part of the problem, not the solution.





I'm talking about the local police.
How would you and I electing the police that protect us, be a problem?




You wanna fix the government, and the police?

Make it an elected position, onto someone else.

Everyone who has any idea how to fix things in America, want nothing to fucking do with it.

Imagine if you took a random CEO of a billion dollar company, and forced him to be president, and then you tell him he can't go back to his normal job, and normal house, until he makes a profit for our nation.'

He'd work so fucking hard, to get rid of that government pay cut, a billionaire forced to be a millionaire would probably really hate it. Plus his bathroom is the size of the white house, so force him to live in the white house too.

That's how you get a productive government. Everyone who wants that power is greedy. You can't want power, and NOT be greedy.

Granted the fortune 500 member would be greedy too, but he'd have to make a profit for the gov, and not for himself, otherwise he'll be stuck in the white house.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21715450 - 05/23/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

We deserve more respect because while we are tripping balls, they aren't.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21715456 - 05/23/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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Closest thing I can find.
THESE FUCKING THINGS MAN. THE DEVIL.

I know exactly what You're talking about, we have them here too.

It's an all black car, with POLICE written on the side in black reflective paint, so literally the only time you can see that they're cops, is at night.




We have those here but you can barely even see the "police" logo.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21715477 - 05/23/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

People in the justice system should be concerned with doing what is right, not what is most likely to get them elected. When someone has to run for office, they have to fundraiser,p, they become beholden to special interest. They owe favors. There are major efforts nationwide to do away with elected judges as a key step in reform. I don't think anyone believes elections are a way to help.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #21715484 - 05/23/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Viva, the camera flash, is why you can read it. You're right though.

It looks more like this one I posted.
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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21715488 - 05/23/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

You mean I posted <_< I posted that pic before you!


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    #21715493 - 05/23/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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You mean I posted <_< I posted that pic before you!




Dude honestly, I didn't even see that :o by the time I checked the thread someone must have bumped it to a new page. :frown:

Sorry bro. I actually feel like a dick now.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21715506 - 05/23/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

It's okay I didn't really care, lol.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21715517 - 05/23/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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It's okay I didn't really care, lol.




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Hey, fuck your couch.

Beating me by 16 minutes hahaha.

I'm no longer feeling bad :smile:

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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: koods]
    #21715548 - 05/23/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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People in the justice system should be concerned with doing what is right, not what is most likely to get them elected. When someone has to run for office, they have to fundraiser,p, they become beholden to special interest. They owe favors. There are major efforts nationwide to do away with elected judges as a key step in reform. I don't think anyone believes elections are a way to help.




Yeah, we should just scrap democracy while we're at it. Been a pain in the ass this whole time. :facepalm:


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    #21715553 - 05/23/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Except we don't live in a Democracy.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21715653 - 05/23/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Whaaaa??

Arguing in circles, gotta love the Shroomery.

Anyways, I got shit to do, enjoy yourselves.


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Re: Cops deserve more respect from drug users [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21715659 - 05/23/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.thisnation.com/question/011.html

We live in a republic, not a democracy.

Quote:

"and to the republic for which it stands."




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